I don't think it's hardcore but if it's not a ph I guess i'd go with creatine.![]()
I thought it would be a good idea to start a list of known products that are marketed as "hardcore" that aren't necessarily hardcore. Hardcore is relative to each individual person, so I thought, for the purposes of this list, it would be best to define any product that requires PCT as "hardcore". If anyone has a different suggestion for defining hardcore I'm open to it.
Obviously these will not be as effective as true "hardcore" products (Havoc).
So lets hear it. If possible list any reasons/data to support why the product doesn't need PCT.
If this thread is retarded, awesome-one of the mods can delete it. Thought it would be a good idea, but I've been wrong before.![]()
I don't think it's hardcore but if it's not a ph I guess i'd go with creatine.![]()
I personally don't consider anything less than PH strength to be Hardcore. I might consider something like 6oxo to be more hardcore than Chrysin, or CEE to be more hardcore than Monohydrate. Even Creatine should be cycled, some might agree that between cycles of Creatine there are certain supplements that should be taken to bring ones body back to normal. Isn't that a form of PCT when it comes down to it? I've seen Vitamin C marketed as Hardcore so nothing really shocks me.
A great stack that has been getting great reviews and does not require a pct is Stoked/Activate Xtreme
Stoked
Activate Xtreme
I don't know if this applies? But, how about Thermo lifes Tbol. It says it can be taken as a pct. But, SB doesn't have it in stock yet. Any idea, when it will?![]()
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I highly recommend trying a Stoked + Activate Xtreme stack..or a Activate Xtreme + X Factor stack. Or if you have the money, Stoked+Activate Xtreme+X Factor (like amino89 did in his blog).
I personally tried out Activate Xtreme+ X Factor and it was pretty awesome. My strength went up a butt load and I had decent gains.
XFactor is amazing by yourself. I was running an Anabolic Edge and XFactor cycle and it was giving me very noticeable gains. I would say it was pretty hardcore
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Im still waiting to try a divanil product, anybody know a good one?
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