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Old 11-03-2008, 09:59 AM   #31
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This has to be the epitome of stupidity. Why would you combine and use such dangerous products when there are much safer and much more effective alternatives out there? Is your goal to make a conscious, incredibly stupid decision?

I also like how you claim this "cycle" is for experienced users only, as if your liver has developed some invincible shield from doing previous, equally shitty cycles that will somehow make this one less harmful.

I'd also like to know how much this junk cost you, considering you could get enough test to run a real cycle for about $100.
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This has to be the epitome of stupidity. Why would you combine and use such dangerous products when there are much safer and much more effective alternatives out there? Is your goal to make a conscious, incredibly stupid decision?

I also like how you claim this "cycle" is for experienced users only, as if your liver has developed some invincible shield from doing previous, equally shitty cycles that will somehow make this one less harmful.

I'd also like to know how much this junk cost you, considering you could get enough test to run a real cycle for about $100.
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So no workout since thursday. Halloween, and new gym hours put a damper on things, so the best I got is pushups and situps. Tonight will be Haevy dead and bench day. Hopefully I'll post some good numbers but we'll see if I get a spotter in there.



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Tonight was a great workout...

Although a late workout, here it goes.

Warmup-Clean and press-3x135x10 Just to get the blood flowing
Superset BB low pulls and bench
Bench-1x135x10
1x225x5
1x315x5
2x365x3
1x385x2
1x315x5
1x225x15
Quite alot, but considering having to warmup for the heavy weights, most of it is kindof a warmup for me.
Low pulls-2x135x12
3x225x8
SLDL-5x10
Iso decline machine bench-4x10
Pullups-4x12
DB flys-4x12


I felt great. I still havnt been getting into the gym early like I want, but with a schedule change, I am still trying to adjust. Also, I dont exactly get amped to get into the gym during the rush.

Weight was still 245 but strength is up and vascularity seems to be increasing. So far I am pretty happy with the results.



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you are insane bro to even stack anything with masstabs .. def. a cycle for pro

hmhh when did you start this cycle ? i mean what day are u on ?
ill keep up from up now
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Do not take it personal he does it to everybody on all products except ON whey protein
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Do not take it personal he does it to everybody on all products except ON whey protein
and gear.. never seen him talk down to someone on a injectable cycle



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you are insane bro to even stack anything with masstabs .. def. a cycle for pro

hmhh when did you start this cycle ? i mean what day are u on ?
ill keep up from up now
I think I'm a little over three weeks right now. I only stacked them because, 1. I tried them solo and noticed very little sides and great gains, 2. because I wasnt going to stack it with a nonmethyl and didnt want to run it solo again

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I wasnt worried about it. I know what I am doing isnt exactly ideal, however, I also dont drink and dont have any other poor habits. I have upped my antioxidants and am becoming increasingly more interested in herbals that cleanse the body. Does this mean what I am doing is neccessarily safer? well no, but I could have worse habits and have taken all the neccessary precautions I feel I need. I have ran blood work before, I come up well within range, and also dont plan on running another till April or May.

I also stopped worrying about what other people thought a long time ago, so its alright. I just don't see the point of not even trying to rationalize with someone.

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WTF?! Tonight kind of sucked. I had something urgent I had to go to so I didnt even get to the gym until 11. But I must push on. I have goals I have to get. Plus, I am able to work out 7 days a week for the most part, so me making up stuff doesnt effect me too bad, and I always do pushups at home, lately with the little boy on my back, which actually worked out quite well for me yesterday.

Tonight though I decided to superset. Im doing a little push pull this week..You guys probably think my training is way unorthodox, and it is, but what I have found is that every week, I must change up something in my routine or else I get extremely bored and fall into a rutt. I would say that from 23-25, I was in a serious rutt, and didnt break it until I realized that I had not gotten much stronger over those years, I knew something had to change. It did for the better and I began setting new PR's.

Pullups and military DB press
Pullups-5x10
Military-4x85x8

Cable upright rows and cable pullovers
Cable upright rows-5x8
cable pullovers-4x12

Iso DB side raises-4x12 front and back

then the gym closed, but i was finishing anyways


Vascularity has greatly increased during the workouts. Oddly enough I am experiencing an odd swelling in my right hand. I know my buddy was doing an injectible cycle and his hand did the same thing but he heard a pop when he was picking up only a 45 pound plate. I wonder if this could be something similar. I heard nothing but the pain has gotten worse over the last few days, but I think it might have been at its worst today. I never use grips or anything, so I wonder if my forearms and such are just getting too much. I have actually been contemplating those pads advertised on this site, but havnt made my mind up yet. Oh, also, weight is up to 247.5. Pretty good I would say. Im hoping to be at least 250 by the end so I can hopefully maintain it, which I usually am able too.



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Good to see this thread is back on track and nice workout. Keep a eye on the hand.
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Today was supposed to be a traps/legs/arms day. I got my second hep b shot yesterday and am sick as crap....Went in and did some much needed cardio, but I couldnt push myself. Im wondering now if instead of it being the psarm I tried, it was in fact the first hep shot that made me sick. I was literally up all night throwing up and had to call in sick.

Anyways, I did the cardio, I just couldnt push myself too much. I'll get in there tomorrow and both days over the weekend, so that will cover my four days this week plus starting off next week right. This sucks



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All I can say are achey joints and unknown bruises. I dont really know whats going on with the achey joints. Some college football injuries are resurfacing after being dormant for quite some time now. Namely the bad hamstrings and the torn cartilage in my chest. I just started using some incarnate so hopefully the cissus will help get rid of some of my aches. The bruising in unexplainable though. Ive got a huge bruise after my hep shot on wednesda, a lump and huge bruise on my elbow, and my swolen slightly bruised hand. I have no idea whats going on unless it could be because of the higher than average dose of fish oil I am taking.

Just a brief rundown of today and yesterday in the gym....
db curls
db overhead extensions
cable curls
skull crushers
hammer tricep cable pushdowns
standing poser cable curls (IDK what they are really called)

Today
Deads (light cause I am still not feeling that up to par)
Cable low rows
Reverse flys
Back extensions
Bent over DB rows

Sorry for the briefness, but I gotta get to work



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Hell of a cycle dude!

I will be following along. I don't think it will be that harsh my only thing is I would be a little weary about the Havoc and Mass Tabs.

I did a 8 week cycle a year or so ago.
wk: 1-4 SD 20mg ed
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wk: 4-8 max lmg 80mg ed
wk: 1-8 DHEA 600mg ed

I gained about 20lbs
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Hell of a cycle dude!

I will be following along. I don't think it will be that harsh my only thing is I would be a little weary about the Havoc and Mass Tabs.

I did a 8 week cycle a year or so ago.
wk: 1-4 SD 20mg ed
wk: 1-8 prostan 150 ed
wk: 4-8 max lmg 80mg ed
wk: 1-8 DHEA 600mg ed

I gained about 20lbs
Holy moly....The most I have ever gained off of one cycle is about 15 pounds and that was off of mass tabs solo. Unfortnately, I dont think my weight is going to be where I want it to be at the end because of sooo many setbacks, but my strength is there though. Also, one of theb iggest and heaviest part of my body is atrophying away (my legs) since I havnt been able to do squats.

Also, it should be noted that this may be my last cycle. There are soo many things going on with my life, I donth think running another one will be in my immediate future, but only time will tell. Time to give those receptors a break after this one



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Holy moly....The most I have ever gained off of one cycle is about 15 pounds and that was off of mass tabs solo. Unfortnately, I dont think my weight is going to be where I want it to be at the end because of sooo many setbacks, but my strength is there though. Also, one of theb iggest and heaviest part of my body is atrophying away (my legs) since I havnt been able to do squats.

Also, it should be noted that this may be my last cycle. There are soo many things going on with my life, I donth think running another one will be in my immediate future, but only time will tell. Time to give those receptors a break after this one
Yeah it was some good gains, wish I could say I retained them all after the cycle I haven't done a cycle since then.... so I am about due after I get off my mini-cut.

But like I said good luck I will be keeping a eye out
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Pick up the good stuff. I had a friend who gained 31lbs on a 12 week cycle of test, 500mg a week.
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Im not gone guys. I'll take a picture of what is going on with me. im still poppin pills, but and will start back working out next in a day or two. I worked out a little yesterday, but nausea got the best of me so there is nothing of importnce to post. I should be good tomorrow but we will see.



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Im not gone guys. I'll take a picture of what is going on with me. im still poppin pills, but and will start back working out next in a day or two. I worked out a little yesterday, but nausea got the best of me so there is nothing of importnce to post. I should be good tomorrow but we will see.
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Well here it is. In addition to having a swollen elbow and hand, I have what is seen in the picture, as well as pain in my hamstring and what seems to be a possible stomach flu, or side effects of what is going on with the rest of my body. this was taken today.
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Stomach felt great today, hand has gone down, shoulder bruising is more uniform and looks a little worse, but I know Im doing better. Gym sucked though. I didnt take any preworkout drink as I didnt want too much blood flowing around with my current issue, and my leg still hurts from an unknown cause, so I didnt want anything extra thrown in there. Workout went as follows.

BB incline- 1x225x10
5x225x10

Gullitine bench- 5x8
DB flys- 4x12
Bosu pushups-3x15
DB overhead tricep-4x12
Rope hammer pushdowns-4x10

I believe this saturday will mark my last mass tab and then I will be on to havoc. It really sucks cause I know I was going to hit weight and I was already closing in on strength, but for about the last week, I have literally ate like a bird which is horrible, but I couldnt stomach anything. So we will see what I can get out of the rest of this. Its hard to say how my strength still marks up, just because today was kind of a forced day.



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sorry to hear ya got sick bro... and yeah, that bruising/swelling is f'd up...
hope ya feel better soon and finish up strong



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Well, swelling is still going down. Bruising is worse, but its not painful for the most part except when I get a good pump, hopefully Im not still pumping tons of blood into my arm. Workout was brief but to the point today.

Deads-1x225x15
4x385x6
DB rows-4x12
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Sorry to hear about all the bad stuff bro.
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Immune system is shot. Now I've got a cold but I still pushed through with the workout. I was getting to the point where I wanted to start doing some 5X5 workouts, but it feels like Im starting from scratch. Weight dropped even furthur down to 241.

Smith military press-4x315x4
ISO DB shoulder press-4x8
Side lateral raises-4x10
Upright rows-3x12
Shrugs-1x12
1x10
1x6
1x3
1x16


Bruise has completely covered my arm. I think people probably think I have a dumb tatoo. The one thing I can say is that my mood has changed. Perhaps it is some havoc, maybe just me, but my weightroom aggression has come back. I do love that aspect. One thing I can say is that if anyone has some extra money, they have got to try Axis labs Hemodraulix. That stuff is SICK.



Since this is an AI log, I figure I should comment on the Cycle support. Mixed in with my chocolate shakes, it doesnt taste bad, maybe a bit of an acquired taste, but not bad. I dont recommend mixing it with anything else though. Make sure the flavor meshes with chocolate, and you are golden



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On the cycle support, the peanut butter stuff really is much better than I had expected. I've used the supposed chocolate flavor in the past, and I swear that stuff can double as paint thinner... but the PB really isn't bad at all.



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On the cycle support, the peanut butter stuff really is much better than I had expected. I've used the supposed chocolate flavor in the past, and I swear that stuff can double as paint thinner... but the PB really isn't bad at all.

I didnt know they had varied flavors? I'll be just getting into the other can here in a day or so. I'll have to check the flavor, it will go perfect with my peanut butter protein.



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Yes we have to flavors chocolate and peanut butter and most prefer the peanut butter.
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Yes we have to flavors chocolate and peanut butter and most prefer the peanut butter.

Good to know, I love PB!


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Well I had a serving of the PB today and you guys were right, its not that bad at all.

Squats-5x135x12 (painful)
Iso leg press-6x16
Leg extensions-4x12
DB leg curls-3x8
2x12
Revolving stair stepper-10 minutes


I tell you what, I decided I needed to start doing some cardio since I am never going to diet. It will be nice to get into shape again. I like the way I look, but since I never do cardio, I feel like a board. I always fall into a rut without doing anything athletic besides lifting, so Im hoping this will make me feel a little better. Yea, it will keep some weight off, but within this cycle, I have come to the realization that my body will not healthily hold 300 pounds. I need to get back into that athletic shape and feel and if I happen to get up tolike 275 or so, I'll be happy. Unfortunatley, I think it will be really hard to do without extra help though.



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