AI Log "Get the Mass Back Stack"

egodog48 · 11-23-2008, 03:29 AM

Ive been meaning to get on here more, but these last few days have been hell. It was either spend time online or go workout, and obviously chose to workout. I'll update numbers a little bit here and there for the remainder. Workouts have been about the same lately. I got 495 for 3 sets of 3 and 1 set of 2 yesterday and was complimented on how well my form was even with that weight, so I felt pretty good about that. I want to hit the heavy bench again soon to see how much I can get but that will be dependant on who I can get to the gym with me. Legs are slowly getting better. Im really thinking about trying to get some cortisone or something shot in there cause this is hell. I favor my leg so much, I know my form is shoty when doing movements that use both legs at the same time (ie. squats, leg press, etc.) so all I can really do are iso exercises. I also need to start throwing in an arm day, or getting more out of my arm workouts because they just dont seem to be growing like they once di. My high was about 19.25, I dont even want to think about what these puny arms are right now, but I will measure at the end to see.

The one thing I can say is that with the loss of weight, my composition seems to be better than it was at the beginning at this weight. I guess I will find out when I compare the pictures here in a couple more weeks.

ironbull · 11-23-2008, 09:50 AM

19.25 is beastly man hope u can get bak up to that

egodog48 · 11-25-2008, 12:55 AM

Strength is definitely still there. I did four sets of DB incline with 100's for 10 and then hit the bench up and did 4 sets of 8 with 315. Oh man, if only I had the size with it.

egodog48 · 11-27-2008, 11:47 AM

Sorry. I havnt been posting workouts Ive become really busy as of late adn this thing seems to be dragging on. Still disappointed by the size I have but I am leaning out nicely and semingly getting a little more vascular.

lucifuge · 11-27-2008, 11:56 AM

don't sweat it bro, you're half way there. the size will come...

egodog48 · 11-28-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifuge

don't sweat it bro, you're half way there. the size will come...

Suprisingly, my goals are changing a bit. I would still love to be the guy evenryone is scared of, but at the same time. I am getting much more looks and numbers as of late. Perhaps this could be the better side of things at this weight instead of intimidating the ladies. Maybe its just timing, or maybe there is something to this, I dont know, but it sure is a coincidence. And let me tell you, things have been going GREAT! Maybe I'll try to hang out here for awhile although it drives me crazy.

Also, tonight, I was propositioned with a very lucrative business offer. More details to come if they materialize, but let me just tell you this, never ever burn bridges and always keep those who take care of you, close to you. Networking is everything!

workingatit43 · 11-28-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by egodog48

Suprisingly, my goals are changing a bit. I would still love to be the guy evenryone is scared of, but at the same time. I am getting much more looks and numbers as of late. Perhaps this could be the better side of things at this weight instead of intimidating the ladies. Maybe its just timing, or maybe there is something to this, I dont know, but it sure is a coincidence. And let me tell you, things have been going GREAT! Maybe I'll try to hang out here for awhile although it drives me crazy.

Also, tonight, I was propositioned with a very lucrative business offer. More details to come if they materialize, but let me just tell you this, never ever burn bridges and always keep those who take care of you, close to you. Networking is everything!

Great job and even better advise.

egodog48 · 11-29-2008, 03:21 PM

I hope Im not letting you guys down, and can start posting more workout numbers if you want. I really didnt expect to get this busy and forgot since my last log, how time consuming it can be, especially eight weeks worth. ANd when you forget to post one workout, since I dont write mine down, how hard it is to make them up.

Anyways, Im pretty happy with havoc so far. I took some epistane when it first came out and wasnt exactly happy with it, but that could have been because of several factors. Right now, things are going pretty well. The cycle is dragging on, and I feel like I've been on too long. I havnt noticed any bad sides though, because I havnt noticed any shutdown, no acne, no water, no lethargy, nothing really except for a stronger sense of getting the job done in the weight room. I've never really noticed any bad sides except from superdrol and phera, so that was kind of expected, although I know that without bloodwork, you have no way of detemining what is really going on.

egodog48 · 12-01-2008, 04:35 PM

I'll start posting some more numbers here this week. I stopped logging on to this site at work since I heard it was against policy. I am sure I could swing it and make it "part" of my job, but why risk it.

Numbers will be posted tonight to see if I got anywhere.

egodog48 · 12-01-2008, 11:17 PM

OKay, tonight started off a little slow because I once again got in later than I wanted, which I had actually been getting in fairly early but oh well.

INcline BB bench-1x225x10
4x315x3
BB bench-1x225x12
4x295x6
1x315x4
Cable flys-5x15
Bosu pushups-2 x failure
ISO leg press-5x20

This was quick and to the point. Strength didnt feel like it was there as I felt in previous weeks, but unless I am worng, these numbers seem pretty on par with where I should be considering. Im not eating as much as I had. I dropped the bold down to 600 only on workout days, and 400 on oother days, so that could be playing a factor. I am going to slowly taper down beause I dont want there to be any problems coming off, especially since his has gone so long.

egodog48 · 12-02-2008, 11:50 PM

Sumo deadlift-3x225x8
Regular BB deadlift-4x425x5
Pullups-3xfailure
Back extensions-5x12
BB Low rows-4x8

egodog48 · 12-05-2008, 12:43 AM

So yesterday I blasted shoulders. Nothing really to post except I did like 8 exercises with alot of supersets. I smashed it, so I dont really remember what I was pushing cause I was doing alot of drop sets and such.

ANyways, today I did arms.

Reverse BB curls-4x bar x12 on one leg each set
Hammer cable try-4x12
Incline DB curl-4x10
Single overhead DB tri ext-4x6
Close grip bench-3xfailure
Poser curls-3x15

I feel pretty good. Ive been throwing in some core work I havnt really noted. I measured my arms an dthey are no where near where they were. I suppose though, I probably look better now, as when they were over 19 I had a much more bloated appearance with tons of stretch marks. Granted, I still have the stretch marks, but I look much more natural and feel better. I have been off the creatine for about a month now. Orotine sucks to mix, and I honestly have never really seen enough off of creatine products to stay on consistently. This is almost wrapped up, so I will be posting pics soon.

egodog48 · 12-08-2008, 12:23 AM

Didnt really plan on taking the weekend off but thats okay. I'll be back to it tomorrow. I'm going to try and do a couple maxes and see where I am.

egodog48 · 12-10-2008, 10:13 PM

Yesterday was chest day...here is a brief rundown

BB bench-1x135x10
1x225x8
1x315x2
1x375x1
1x410x1.25 HA!
1x315x8
1x315x6
1x225x20
Yea, alot I know
Gullitine Bench-4x135x15
Cable flys/Bosu pushups-4xfailure
BB reverse curls-4x12
EZ bar curls-6 sets of total failure

Today
BB deadlift-1x225x10
1x315x10
1x405x6
1x475x5
1x515x1

Goodmornings/Pullups-Superset to failure- 4 sets
Reverse flys-5x12
Dips-4x12
Iso cable tri pulldown-4x12
Skullcrusher-3x12

Well, I have one more pill left for tomorrow morning. I dont know why it worked like that, maybe I popped and extra couplde or something that I forgot about. Official weight for me is 238. Yea, Im very disappoined with my weight. Right before I got sick I was weighing a solid 248 which I was feeling very good about, and then all that crap happened. Im not sure if I spoke about what it ended up being, but it was a hematoma and I was just draining blood into my arm. Its possible that I got the flu at the same time and lost every bit of weight I had gained. Luckily though, I kept the strength. As the numbers above suggest, Im pretty much back to my all time maxes, so that I am happy with. My all time best max on bech was 420, but I was also doing nothing but training/eating/sleeping, so I'd say this is pretty good considering. As far as my deads, I do believe this was the most I have ever lifted. It should be known that there were no suits, no belts, no straps, and only knee wraps to keep my bad knee together.

I'll post up pictures within the next few days to show where I am at. I did measure my arms against my better judgement and I am at a measely 18.2. Oh well, I'll get there, I just need to start working on arms a little more. I know I was doing at least three exercises for bis/tris when I finally started to get them to grow last time so thats what I need to do.

THanks again to those guys who supported me through this. I know I didnt do a great job completely keeping up, but when I got sick, things went south and I played alot of catchup.

evanps · 12-11-2008, 11:11 AM

I've followed your log some and I may have missed some things but I'm interested in the bruising. I mean I'm def interested in your results but I was wondering if you planned any blood work following your cycle or pct. A common sign of liver failure is disseminated and excess bruising. I noticed you were using an NO product which might possibly explain some extra bruising because of vasodilation but the shoulder looked pretty nasty. I'm not trying to scare you or make a diagnosis of some type I just honestly feel a little worried. Wanted to see if maybe you had already had yourself checked out and found an answer. Anyway kudos on the effort and I look forward to seeing more of your results.

egodog48 · 12-11-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by evanps

I've followed your log some and I may have missed some things but I'm interested in the bruising. I mean I'm def interested in your results but I was wondering if you planned any blood work following your cycle or pct. A common sign of liver failure is disseminated and excess bruising. I noticed you were using an NO product which might possibly explain some extra bruising because of vasodilation but the shoulder looked pretty nasty. I'm not trying to scare you or make a diagnosis of some type I just honestly feel a little worried. Wanted to see if maybe you had already had yourself checked out and found an answer. Anyway kudos on the effort and I look forward to seeing more of your results.

THank you for your concern, however, I WAS on blood thinners and actually ot off them during cycle when that happened. I had a post op blood clot which needed blood thinners, and I was also taking all those fish oil, as well as the preworkout drink. Alot of stuff was weighing against me and since I got the shot, I just bled out under the skin. But no, I am not planning on getting blood work done this time around. Maybe before my next go. I ust say the surgery was over 6 months ago, so it was not recent or else I probably would not have done the cycle, I just knew I wasnt oing to have to be on them much longer.

evanps · 12-12-2008, 03:16 AM

understood. your body is your own and you're probably no worse off than I am myself. Just couldn't have lived with myself if I hadn't said something. good luck

egodog48 · 12-12-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by evanps

understood. your body is your own and you're probably no worse off than I am myself. Just couldn't have lived with myself if I hadn't said something. good luck

Yea, I'll be fine. I went to an urgycare and got off the blood thinners so it went away.

On a side note, I am trying to get somepics up. It will probably tomorrow before I have the time even though I dont see much improvement except for a little shoulder thickness and maybe a little more seperation between muscles. Like I said, at least the strength is there and hopefully I will be able to keep that.

workingatit43 · 12-13-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by egodog48

Yea, I'll be fine. I went to an urgycare and got off the blood thinners so it went away.

On a side note, I am trying to get somepics up. It will probably tomorrow before I have the time even though I dont see much improvement except for a little shoulder thickness and maybe a little more seperation between muscles. Like I said, at least the strength is there and hopefully I will be able to keep that.

Looking forward to it bro.

egodog48 · 12-15-2008, 12:16 AM

Welp, here it is, the much anticipated results. It almost looks like I have lost some size, but it may be the camera angle, but gained some lean muscle. All and all I would say that I am fairly disappointed with this cycle. If I had to do it again I would, but I think the timing of what happened to me was wayyy off, and my immune system shot craps in themiddle which really stunted my progress. I will update a few more times to finish the PCT review. I hope I didnt diappoint. I had a little increased acne near the end of cycle, but that may be because I started slacking on fish oils, also, I noticed a drop in libido. It wasnt a huge dropoff, but at the beginning I would have jumped on practically anything, but I didnt get quite as many near the cessation of the cycle. Didn't notice too much shrinkage, maybe just a longer time to "recover? if ou know what mean. I may have gotten more aggressive as the cycle grew, but I also became discontent with many things, so that may have played a factor.

In about a month, I am going to run some Anabolic Edge (which I am taking out of PCT) and possibly some Max Out. Im not as worried about size like I used to be, but at the same time, I cant say I will feel this way in 2 months. I need to just make up my mind on what my goals are. I think Id have better results that way, but at the same time, I want the best of both worlds of being huge and ripped.

Anyways, here are the pics. Let me know if you have any questions.

egodog48 · 12-15-2008, 12:18 AM

Also, final weight is 236.8....Im pretty sure I was there when I started and I can tell its much less than the 248 I had gotten up too during cycle before the ordeal. Sigh....I just wish my shirts were tight like they were before

workingatit43 · 12-18-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by egodog48

Also, final weight is 236.8....Im pretty sure I was there when I started and I can tell its much less than the 248 I had gotten up too during cycle before the ordeal. Sigh....I just wish my shirts were tight like they were before

Great job on the log bro. I am sorry it did not go well with the cycle.

egodog48 · 12-18-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

Great job on the log bro. I am sorry it did not go well with the cycle.

thank you....I feel like it was a complete waste. I hope I will kep what I gained which I doubt I will have much trouble with.
Libido is a little dry right now, could be cause of circumstances though.

FishOrCutBait · 12-22-2008, 03:02 PM

You're a horse dude. Dont dog yourself too hard, Im sorry things didnt go well all the same.

egodog48 · 12-22-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

You're a horse dude. Dont dog yourself too hard, Im sorry things didnt go well all the same.

THanks man....I have tha mental thing though, that I always feel small and weak...I hate it, and man is getting older getting to me!

As far as what going on right now, I have a little increased acne, a little more libido, and strength is still there. Persistent knee pain though, although I did throw up 405 for the first time on squats in a long time. Probably not the best idea to do while rehabbing it, I just couldnt resist though. Im just wondering if I have some scar tissue in there because Im getting alot of popping and such, so Ive been actively stretching it more (which is painful) but Im hoping to break things up a little. If it doesnt get better by Feb, I suppose I'll be off to the Dr. again.

Dodge · 12-23-2008, 01:20 AM

Must be fucking expensive all that shit, thats all i can say *sticks to zma*

egodog48 · 12-23-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Must be fucking expensive all that shit, thats all i can say *sticks to zma*

not really...there are perks to being a rep, but thanks for your obvious concerns about my financial stability

Dodge · 12-23-2008, 06:57 AM

You're lucky

i havent seen any single thing (supliment-wise) below £15 (gbp) in my gym shop heroes, so it looked to me like that list must cost atleast 200 if its the same as what they sell
But looking at your photo, they definately must work lol

egodog48 · 12-23-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodge

You're lucky

i havent seen any single thing (supliment-wise) below ï¿½15 (gbp) in my gym shop heroes, so it looked to me like that list must cost atleast 200 if its the same as what they sell
But looking at your photo, they definately must work lol

HA! THanks man. Yea, I could never afford all of that if I didnt get some help from elsewhere. I know that its a bunch of stuff, I just cant see it going to waste. Sometimes I just quit and go cold turkey for awhile when I start feeling like a junky

egodog48 · 12-26-2008, 04:28 PM

Acne has increased even more...Results still seem to be coming. I have really been picking up the intensity while exercising, have been increasing more core/ab work, and now have a pretty steady workout partner. Things are going well. SHoulders still seem to be blowing up, I just wish I could get the top half of my chest to grow.

I have also thrown in some primal male into the mix. I am using the 5 on 2 off protocol so we will see how this works as well. I will be running the rest of my Anabolic Edge for probably about one more week. Yes, I do stagger my supplements just out of preference.

11-23-2008, 03:29 AM	#61
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Ive been meaning to get on here more, but these last few days have been hell. It was either spend time online or go workout, and obviously chose to workout. I'll update numbers a little bit here and there for the remainder. Workouts have been about the same lately. I got 495 for 3 sets of 3 and 1 set of 2 yesterday and was complimented on how well my form was even with that weight, so I felt pretty good about that. I want to hit the heavy bench again soon to see how much I can get but that will be dependant on who I can get to the gym with me. Legs are slowly getting better. Im really thinking about trying to get some cortisone or something shot in there cause this is hell. I favor my leg so much, I know my form is shoty when doing movements that use both legs at the same time (ie. squats, leg press, etc.) so all I can really do are iso exercises. I also need to start throwing in an arm day, or getting more out of my arm workouts because they just dont seem to be growing like they once di. My high was about 19.25, I dont even want to think about what these puny arms are right now, but I will measure at the end to see. The one thing I can say is that with the loss of weight, my composition seems to be better than it was at the beginning at this weight. I guess I will find out when I compare the pictures here in a couple more weeks. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

11-25-2008, 12:55 AM	#63
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Strength is definitely still there. I did four sets of DB incline with 100's for 10 and then hit the bench up and did 4 sets of 8 with 315. Oh man, if only I had the size with it. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

11-27-2008, 11:47 AM	#64
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Sorry. I havnt been posting workouts Ive become really busy as of late adn this thing seems to be dragging on. Still disappointed by the size I have but I am leaning out nicely and semingly getting a little more vascular. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

11-29-2008, 03:21 PM	#68
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	I hope Im not letting you guys down, and can start posting more workout numbers if you want. I really didnt expect to get this busy and forgot since my last log, how time consuming it can be, especially eight weeks worth. ANd when you forget to post one workout, since I dont write mine down, how hard it is to make them up. Anyways, Im pretty happy with havoc so far. I took some epistane when it first came out and wasnt exactly happy with it, but that could have been because of several factors. Right now, things are going pretty well. The cycle is dragging on, and I feel like I've been on too long. I havnt noticed any bad sides though, because I havnt noticed any shutdown, no acne, no water, no lethargy, nothing really except for a stronger sense of getting the job done in the weight room. I've never really noticed any bad sides except from superdrol and phera, so that was kind of expected, although I know that without bloodwork, you have no way of detemining what is really going on. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-01-2008, 04:35 PM	#69
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	I'll start posting some more numbers here this week. I stopped logging on to this site at work since I heard it was against policy. I am sure I could swing it and make it "part" of my job, but why risk it. Numbers will be posted tonight to see if I got anywhere. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

11-23-2008, 09:50 AM	#62
ironbull Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: texas Posts: 84	19.25 is beastly man hope u can get bak up to that

11-27-2008, 11:56 AM	#65
lucifuge 100 Proof Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 1,472 Photos: 14	don't sweat it bro, you're half way there. the size will come...

12-01-2008, 11:17 PM	#70
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	OKay, tonight started off a little slow because I once again got in later than I wanted, which I had actually been getting in fairly early but oh well. INcline BB bench-1x225x10 4x315x3 BB bench-1x225x12 4x295x6 1x315x4 Cable flys-5x15 Bosu pushups-2 x failure ISO leg press-5x20 This was quick and to the point. Strength didnt feel like it was there as I felt in previous weeks, but unless I am worng, these numbers seem pretty on par with where I should be considering. Im not eating as much as I had. I dropped the bold down to 600 only on workout days, and 400 on oother days, so that could be playing a factor. I am going to slowly taper down beause I dont want there to be any problems coming off, especially since his has gone so long. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-02-2008, 11:50 PM	#71
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Sumo deadlift-3x225x8 Regular BB deadlift-4x425x5 Pullups-3xfailure Back extensions-5x12 BB Low rows-4x8 PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-05-2008, 12:43 AM	#72
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	So yesterday I blasted shoulders. Nothing really to post except I did like 8 exercises with alot of supersets. I smashed it, so I dont really remember what I was pushing cause I was doing alot of drop sets and such. ANyways, today I did arms. Reverse BB curls-4x bar x12 on one leg each set Hammer cable try-4x12 Incline DB curl-4x10 Single overhead DB tri ext-4x6 Close grip bench-3xfailure Poser curls-3x15 I feel pretty good. Ive been throwing in some core work I havnt really noted. I measured my arms an dthey are no where near where they were. I suppose though, I probably look better now, as when they were over 19 I had a much more bloated appearance with tons of stretch marks. Granted, I still have the stretch marks, but I look much more natural and feel better. I have been off the creatine for about a month now. Orotine sucks to mix, and I honestly have never really seen enough off of creatine products to stay on consistently. This is almost wrapped up, so I will be posting pics soon. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-08-2008, 12:23 AM	#73
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Didnt really plan on taking the weekend off but thats okay. I'll be back to it tomorrow. I'm going to try and do a couple maxes and see where I am. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-10-2008, 10:13 PM	#74
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Yesterday was chest day...here is a brief rundown BB bench-1x135x10 1x225x8 1x315x2 1x375x1 1x410x1.25 HA! 1x315x8 1x315x6 1x225x20 Yea, alot I know Gullitine Bench-4x135x15 Cable flys/Bosu pushups-4xfailure BB reverse curls-4x12 EZ bar curls-6 sets of total failure Today BB deadlift-1x225x10 1x315x10 1x405x6 1x475x5 1x515x1 Goodmornings/Pullups-Superset to failure- 4 sets Reverse flys-5x12 Dips-4x12 Iso cable tri pulldown-4x12 Skullcrusher-3x12 Well, I have one more pill left for tomorrow morning. I dont know why it worked like that, maybe I popped and extra couplde or something that I forgot about. Official weight for me is 238. Yea, Im very disappoined with my weight. Right before I got sick I was weighing a solid 248 which I was feeling very good about, and then all that crap happened. Im not sure if I spoke about what it ended up being, but it was a hematoma and I was just draining blood into my arm. Its possible that I got the flu at the same time and lost every bit of weight I had gained. Luckily though, I kept the strength. As the numbers above suggest, Im pretty much back to my all time maxes, so that I am happy with. My all time best max on bech was 420, but I was also doing nothing but training/eating/sleeping, so I'd say this is pretty good considering. As far as my deads, I do believe this was the most I have ever lifted. It should be known that there were no suits, no belts, no straps, and only knee wraps to keep my bad knee together. I'll post up pictures within the next few days to show where I am at. I did measure my arms against my better judgement and I am at a measely 18.2. Oh well, I'll get there, I just need to start working on arms a little more. I know I was doing at least three exercises for bis/tris when I finally started to get them to grow last time so thats what I need to do. THanks again to those guys who supported me through this. I know I didnt do a great job completely keeping up, but when I got sick, things went south and I played alot of catchup. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-11-2008, 11:11 AM	#75
evanps Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ky Posts: 288	I've followed your log some and I may have missed some things but I'm interested in the bruising. I mean I'm def interested in your results but I was wondering if you planned any blood work following your cycle or pct. A common sign of liver failure is disseminated and excess bruising. I noticed you were using an NO product which might possibly explain some extra bruising because of vasodilation but the shoulder looked pretty nasty. I'm not trying to scare you or make a diagnosis of some type I just honestly feel a little worried. Wanted to see if maybe you had already had yourself checked out and found an answer. Anyway kudos on the effort and I look forward to seeing more of your results.

12-12-2008, 03:16 AM	#77
evanps Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ky Posts: 288	understood. your body is your own and you're probably no worse off than I am myself. Just couldn't have lived with myself if I hadn't said something. good luck

12-15-2008, 12:18 AM	#81
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Also, final weight is 236.8....Im pretty sure I was there when I started and I can tell its much less than the 248 I had gotten up too during cycle before the ordeal. Sigh....I just wish my shirts were tight like they were before PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

12-22-2008, 03:02 PM	#84
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minneapple Posts: 4,817 Photos: 2	You're a horse dude. Dont dog yourself too hard, Im sorry things didnt go well all the same. This is my journal. Click it and such "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut http://www.ronpaul.com/

12-23-2008, 01:20 AM	#86
Dodge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colchester, uk Posts: 111	Must be fucking expensive all that shit, thats all i can say sticks to zma Press Enter To Exit

12-23-2008, 06:57 AM	#88
Dodge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colchester, uk Posts: 111	You're lucky i havent seen any single thing (supliment-wise) below £15 (gbp) in my gym shop heroes, so it looked to me like that list must cost atleast 200 if its the same as what they sell But looking at your photo, they definately must work lol Press Enter To Exit

12-26-2008, 04:28 PM	#90
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Acne has increased even more...Results still seem to be coming. I have really been picking up the intensity while exercising, have been increasing more core/ab work, and now have a pretty steady workout partner. Things are going well. SHoulders still seem to be blowing up, I just wish I could get the top half of my chest to grow. I have also thrown in some primal male into the mix. I am using the 5 on 2 off protocol so we will see how this works as well. I will be running the rest of my Anabolic Edge for probably about one more week. Yes, I do stagger my supplements just out of preference. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

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