AI Log "Get the Mass Back Stack"

egodog48 · 10-06-2008, 07:48 PM

DO NOT ATTEMPT A CYCLE LIKE THIS. This is a fairly aggressive cycle that should only be done by experienced users.

With that being said, I would like to thank all members of Anabolic Innovations, especially workingatit, that had anything to do with the log sponsorship. I am extremely excited to be a part of this and hope I give a log to your liking.

My goals are stated below. Ultimate goal is to get my PR's back, but legs will be a way off as I will need to stick to high rep low weight for a bit longer. Everything else will be lifted a one heavy compound exercise (PL style) followed by high rep (BB style) lifting to fill the muscles with blood. The proposed idea is that the PL style will shock the body's nervuos system and the BB style will compliment this by furthur breaking down the muscles and filling them with blood. The ultimate goal is to get to 275 pounds and compete in RAW PL.

Age:26
Height:5'11
Weight:242
History & the date you finished your last cycle: Its been about 2.5 months now
Lifting Routine: chest/tris, back/bi's. shoulders/traps/etc, legs/arms
Goals:Gain back the weight and strength ACL surgery. I have about 15 pounds to go.

I have ran about every ph out there past and present. I am a mass junky so I don't really go for the lean gain stuff. I want size. My proposed cycle is as followed....

It will be a 6-8 week cycle of
Mass tabs-32 days worth
Bold200 ran at a TBD dose (still debating but will write it up before I start)
Havoc for the remaining time I am running bold (at a TBD amount)
Cycle support
Vasocharge/NOX3
Hemodraulix
Various protein shakes
Creatine-orotine
Policosanol
Anabolic Edge
Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino- 3-pyrobenzol (which tastes horribly) on weekdays
Fish oil
CoQ10
SAMe
Policosanol
Green tea extract

PCT
Post Cycle Support
Paravol
Anabolic Edge
Creatine (yet to be decided)
An NO product (probably NOX3 or maybe something else)
Fish oil
CoQ10
SAMe
Green tea extract

I am willing to change anything if anyone has any critques for me. I know how aggresive this can be and know my body enough to watch for potentially dangerous situations.

egodog48 · 10-06-2008, 07:51 PM

Mods-If it is possible, could you change the title. I dont want people thinking I am running a contest for you guys.

Thanks!

Cgrant · 10-07-2008, 08:17 AM

ouch bro.. i wanna see some before and after pics.. could be beautiful.. or painful.. GOOD LUCK, i"ll be following this one

zombul · 10-07-2008, 08:53 AM

I will be watching and looks like a very fun log......

egodog48 · 10-13-2008, 06:36 PM

I'm going to start today cause I cant wait any longer. Hopefully everything will be in this week.....sorry AI, I cant help myself

lucifuge · 10-13-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egodog48

I'm going to start today cause I cant wait any longer. Hopefully everything will be in this week.....sorry AI, I cant help myself

hahahaha, I'm in the same boat brother!
I haven't got my stuff in yet either so I started with what I had on hand.
I'm sure the rest will arrive within the next 4 weeks.....

I'll be following alone

zombul · 10-14-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egodog48

I'm going to start today cause I cant wait any longer. Hopefully everything will be in this week.....sorry AI, I cant help myself

What dose did you decide to run the BOLD at? I still think 600mg is the magical number.

IronAddict · 10-14-2008, 09:50 AM

Do your thing egodog! I'll be watching your progress. So, is BOLD200 your personal favorite as far as ph's go? If not, where would you rank it?

egodog48 · 10-14-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

What dose did you decide to run the BOLD at? I still think 600mg is the magical number.

Even weighing at 240? Since the cycle is so long, and I'm stacking with some pretty potent stuff, I will start it around 600 and see where I need to go from there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Do your thing egodog! I'll be watching your progress. So, is BOLD200 your personal favorite as far as ph's go? If not, where would you rank it?

I really like it! I'd say it has to be in the top three.
1.mass tabs
2.phera
3.bold

propadrol is up there too, I'm just not sure where

I started yesterday. I'll post some pics tonight. Starting weight is roughly 237. I also got all my gear tonight when I got home. THank you AI!!!

egodog48 · 10-14-2008, 11:56 PM

Yesterday was back day.

Deadlifts-2x135x10
2x225x10
1x315x8
1x405x6
1x465x2

Pullups-5x5
Cable crossovers-4x15
Lat pulldowns-4x15
Back extensions-4x12

Today I crashed early so no workout

egodog48 · 10-16-2008, 12:47 AM

Today....
A little overkill with bench today, but it was needed...
Bench-2x135x10
2x225x10
2x315x5
1x355x1
2x225x14
1x45x60

Front delt raises-5x45 platex8

DB pullovers-3x50x15

Fly machine-4x120x15

Bi's- Rack work with db's
Reverse curls/forced negative work with bar

Started with the bold today at half dose, will begin full dose tomorrow.

workingatit43 · 10-16-2008, 08:59 AM

Workouts looking good bro I am in.

IronAddict · 10-16-2008, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egodog48

Yesterday was back day.

Deadlifts-2x135x10
2x225x10
1x315x8
1x405x6
1x465x2

Pullups-5x5
Cable crossovers-4x15
Lat pulldowns-4x15
Back extensions-4x12

Today I crashed early so no workout

Nice numbers bro. Your back looks thick, Lotsa muscle!

egodog48 · 10-18-2008, 03:08 AM

Earlier today....

DB military- 2x50x10
1x75x8
3x85x6

DB side lat raises-4x12
Rear DB raises-3x12
Shrugs-4x225x12
Hammer cable tris-4x12
Iso cable tri-4x12

Up four pounds thus far. I know the workouts seem a little unorthodox, however, with the combination of trying to blend my workouts with a new workout partner, and because this week was a "shock" week for me, things will be changing a little next week. I got a comment about looking a little bigger today. I love mass tabs. Last time I gained alot of weight and strength off them. I can tell this will be a good cycle. More than likely, this will be a 6 weeker, which is obviously not the original eigth, but I'm thinking six will better since I will hopefully hit my goals by then, but I will see when the time comes.

Also, bold will be ran at 800 ed. Yea, I cant control myself

egodog48 · 10-21-2008, 01:00 AM

Yesterday was my crappy leg day

Leg press-5x200x15
Leg curl-5x12
Leg extension-5x12
SLDL-4x12
Calf extensions-4x15

I have really hated legs since my surgery...I was squatting 500 ATG for three. My legs are so atrophied right now it drives me crazy. I think I'm going to try to incorporate a little more legs throughout the week now.

Today

Incline-1x135x10
3x295x5
2x315x3
Gullitine Bench-5x135x12
Machine flys-4x12
Straight bar reverse curls-4x10ish
Standing extended arm cable curls-4x12
DB hammer curls-4x10

I'm actually really feeling things now. Pumps are insame, skin is getting tighter, and Im starting to get those "looks" again. I just wish my legs weren't as tiny as they are, but hopefully things will get better. Im going to be able to dedicate more time to rehab starting next week.

zombul · 10-21-2008, 10:29 AM

Looking good brother...

egodog48 · 10-22-2008, 08:10 AM

I guess I should state for those following along that workouts are listed as sets x weight x reps

workingatit43 · 10-22-2008, 03:52 PM

I can also say not very happy about leg day's either.

egodog48 · 10-23-2008, 01:25 AM

Back day sucked...Just wasnt feeling it today so I will have to revisit it later this week.

DL-1x135x10
1x225x10
1x315x8
3x405x4

Lat puldowns-4x6
Machine reverse flys (lower trap focus)-4x12
Pushups-2x50

Like I said, I spent way too much time in the gym and didnt get anything done. I will revisit some of the stuff later this week. Weight still steady, I think I gained another two pounds though.

workingatit43 · 10-23-2008, 09:03 AM

Keep hitting it hard bro.

egodog48 · 10-27-2008, 11:53 PM

Well, sorry for the lack of updates. I havnt had much time to post since the last time, but I did get my workouts in. Friday I did shoulders, and saturday was back and leg rehab. No numbers to post cause I dont write the stuff down. Things are going up though, but not where they were quite yet. Still, I'm much better than where I was even two-three weeks ago.

Here is what tonight looked like......
DB incline bench-1x45x10
1x85x10
1x100x10
1x100x8
1x100x7
damn db's only go up to 100 so I try focusing on slow contractions in the latter sets. Hopefully they will be getting heavier db's like they say they are, but so far I'm stuck with what they got.

Gullitine bench-4x135x10
Machine flys-4x12
Incline db curls-4x45x10
Hammer rope cable curls-4x10
Single leg press(for rehab)-5x15

Weight has gone up a little, but body is definitely recomping. I wish I would have taken measurements, and right now it would be kind of a waste, but I might take measurements at the end of the cycle to see how close I am to where I was. I've ben hard pressed for time, but food intake should be increasing and workouts will probably be improving since I can start getting into the gym earlier in the night and I will have much more free time.

workingatit43 · 10-29-2008, 04:14 PM

Good work bro

zombul · 10-29-2008, 04:22 PM

Keep posting updates my man, and let us see that progress.

egodog48 · 10-31-2008, 01:11 AM

Well, no numbers for yesterdays workout but I did the following....

Machine high pulls
Pullups
Cable low pulls
Back extensions
Cable reverse flys

I wasn't feeling the heavy weights yesterday, so I'm going to hold off till Saturday to do my heavy lifts like my deads.

Today went as followed....

Smith machine military press-2x135x10
1X225X8
3X315X3
Lying cable upright rows-4x12
Close grip bench press-4x10
Cable side and front raises-4x10 each
Shrugs-4x8
Single leg press for rehab-5x15

I don't know what it is but my leg has been extremly sore lately, maybe cause I'm pushing the rehab, but I gotta do something cause its not gettnig better on its own. ANyways, weight is up another couple of pounds. I didn't eat a whole lot today cause of my schedule and I'm still up to about 246. That would mean I'm about 10 pounds heavier than where I started, give or take. Skin is getting alot tighter, unfortunately, so is my ROM. Stretching, for me, is easier said than done, but I need to start hitting it again or else I'm not going to be able to move by the end of this.

zombul · 10-31-2008, 09:41 AM

So after nearly a month what do you think of the stack overall? Not what you had hoped for or those personal bests you think still on their way?

workingatit43 · 10-31-2008, 05:09 PM

That was a heavy cycle I would be interested in if the gains were worth it.

egodog48 · 10-31-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

So after nearly a month what do you think of the stack overall? Not what you had hoped for or those personal bests you think still on their way?

Do I think I will hit them? Doubt I will. It was a very crappy year as far as being able to work out/eat/sleep well, in addition to having the knee surgery and losing all that weight. WHat I will say is that body weight will probably be close to where it was before surgery, and composition will be better too. Personal bests will be within reach, but I doubt it will be with this cycle....but Im not quite done either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

That was a heavy cycle I would be interested in if the gains were worth it.

Its always worth it

workingatit43 · 11-01-2008, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egodog48

Do I think I will hit them? Doubt I will. It was a very crappy year as far as being able to work out/eat/sleep well, in addition to having the knee surgery and losing all that weight. WHat I will say is that body weight will probably be close to where it was before surgery, and composition will be better too. Personal bests will be within reach, but I doubt it will be with this cycle....but Im not quite done either.

Its always worth it

Thats what I like to hear.

chobby192 · 11-01-2008, 08:11 PM

Why do people do cycle? Does it give permanent mass or one has to keep doing it to keep that mass? Since there is also 'post cycle', I am assuming it does some damage to internal organ. Can someone tell me why do people do cycle?

egodog48 · 11-02-2008, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chobby192

Why do people do cycle? Does it give permanent mass or one has to keep doing it to keep that mass? Since there is also 'post cycle', I am assuming it does some damage to internal organ. Can someone tell me why do people do cycle?

Seriously? Actually, you lose a little bit but I have always managed to keep the majority of what I gain. Yes, there is damage that occurs to the body, but much of that can be minimized if not avoided.

10-06-2008, 07:48 PM	#1
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	AI Log "Get the Mass Back Stack" DO NOT ATTEMPT A CYCLE LIKE THIS. This is a fairly aggressive cycle that should only be done by experienced users. With that being said, I would like to thank all members of Anabolic Innovations, especially workingatit, that had anything to do with the log sponsorship. I am extremely excited to be a part of this and hope I give a log to your liking. My goals are stated below. Ultimate goal is to get my PR's back, but legs will be a way off as I will need to stick to high rep low weight for a bit longer. Everything else will be lifted a one heavy compound exercise (PL style) followed by high rep (BB style) lifting to fill the muscles with blood. The proposed idea is that the PL style will shock the body's nervuos system and the BB style will compliment this by furthur breaking down the muscles and filling them with blood. The ultimate goal is to get to 275 pounds and compete in RAW PL. Age:26 Height:5'11 Weight:242 History & the date you finished your last cycle: Its been about 2.5 months now Lifting Routine: chest/tris, back/bi's. shoulders/traps/etc, legs/arms Goals:Gain back the weight and strength ACL surgery. I have about 15 pounds to go. I have ran about every ph out there past and present. I am a mass junky so I don't really go for the lean gain stuff. I want size. My proposed cycle is as followed.... It will be a 6-8 week cycle of Mass tabs-32 days worth Bold200 ran at a TBD dose (still debating but will write it up before I start) Havoc for the remaining time I am running bold (at a TBD amount) Cycle support Vasocharge/NOX3 Hemodraulix Various protein shakes Creatine-orotine Policosanol Anabolic Edge Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino- 3-pyrobenzol (which tastes horribly) on weekdays Fish oil CoQ10 SAMe Policosanol Green tea extract PCT Post Cycle Support Paravol Anabolic Edge Creatine (yet to be decided) An NO product (probably NOX3 or maybe something else) Fish oil CoQ10 SAMe Green tea extract I am willing to change anything if anyone has any critques for me. I know how aggresive this can be and know my body enough to watch for potentially dangerous situations. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-06-2008, 07:51 PM	#2
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Mods-If it is possible, could you change the title. I dont want people thinking I am running a contest for you guys. Thanks! PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-07-2008, 08:17 AM	#3
Cgrant is endlessly cutting Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jersey Posts: 557	ouch bro.. i wanna see some before and after pics.. could be beautiful.. or painful.. GOOD LUCK, i"ll be following this one Check out my Journal

10-13-2008, 06:36 PM	#5
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	I'm going to start today cause I cant wait any longer. Hopefully everything will be in this week.....sorry AI, I cant help myself PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-14-2008, 09:50 AM	#8
IronAddict YOU ME WE Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In my skin Posts: 2,801	Do your thing egodog! I'll be watching your progress. So, is BOLD200 your personal favorite as far as ph's go? If not, where would you rank it? The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step.

10-07-2008, 08:53 AM	#4
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	I will be watching and looks like a very fun log......

10-16-2008, 12:47 AM	#11
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Today.... A little overkill with bench today, but it was needed... Bench-2x135x10 2x225x10 2x315x5 1x355x1 2x225x14 1x45x60 Front delt raises-5x45 platex8 DB pullovers-3x50x15 Fly machine-4x120x15 Bi's- Rack work with db's Reverse curls/forced negative work with bar Started with the bold today at half dose, will begin full dose tomorrow. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-16-2008, 08:59 AM	#12
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	Workouts looking good bro I am in.

10-18-2008, 03:08 AM	#14
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Earlier today.... DB military- 2x50x10 1x75x8 3x85x6 DB side lat raises-4x12 Rear DB raises-3x12 Shrugs-4x225x12 Hammer cable tris-4x12 Iso cable tri-4x12 Up four pounds thus far. I know the workouts seem a little unorthodox, however, with the combination of trying to blend my workouts with a new workout partner, and because this week was a "shock" week for me, things will be changing a little next week. I got a comment about looking a little bigger today. I love mass tabs. Last time I gained alot of weight and strength off them. I can tell this will be a good cycle. More than likely, this will be a 6 weeker, which is obviously not the original eigth, but I'm thinking six will better since I will hopefully hit my goals by then, but I will see when the time comes. Also, bold will be ran at 800 ed. Yea, I cant control myself PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-21-2008, 01:00 AM	#15
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Yesterday was my crappy leg day Leg press-5x200x15 Leg curl-5x12 Leg extension-5x12 SLDL-4x12 Calf extensions-4x15 I have really hated legs since my surgery...I was squatting 500 ATG for three. My legs are so atrophied right now it drives me crazy. I think I'm going to try to incorporate a little more legs throughout the week now. Today Incline-1x135x10 3x295x5 2x315x3 Gullitine Bench-5x135x12 Machine flys-4x12 Straight bar reverse curls-4x10ish Standing extended arm cable curls-4x12 DB hammer curls-4x10 I'm actually really feeling things now. Pumps are insame, skin is getting tighter, and Im starting to get those "looks" again. I just wish my legs weren't as tiny as they are, but hopefully things will get better. Im going to be able to dedicate more time to rehab starting next week. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-21-2008, 10:29 AM	#16
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	Looking good brother...

10-22-2008, 08:10 AM	#17
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	I guess I should state for those following along that workouts are listed as sets x weight x reps PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-22-2008, 03:52 PM	#18
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	I can also say not very happy about leg day's either.

10-23-2008, 01:25 AM	#19
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Back day sucked...Just wasnt feeling it today so I will have to revisit it later this week. DL-1x135x10 1x225x10 1x315x8 3x405x4 Lat puldowns-4x6 Machine reverse flys (lower trap focus)-4x12 Pushups-2x50 Like I said, I spent way too much time in the gym and didnt get anything done. I will revisit some of the stuff later this week. Weight still steady, I think I gained another two pounds though. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-23-2008, 09:03 AM	#20
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	Keep hitting it hard bro.

10-27-2008, 11:53 PM	#21
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Well, sorry for the lack of updates. I havnt had much time to post since the last time, but I did get my workouts in. Friday I did shoulders, and saturday was back and leg rehab. No numbers to post cause I dont write the stuff down. Things are going up though, but not where they were quite yet. Still, I'm much better than where I was even two-three weeks ago. Here is what tonight looked like...... DB incline bench-1x45x10 1x85x10 1x100x10 1x100x8 1x100x7 damn db's only go up to 100 so I try focusing on slow contractions in the latter sets. Hopefully they will be getting heavier db's like they say they are, but so far I'm stuck with what they got. Gullitine bench-4x135x10 Machine flys-4x12 Incline db curls-4x45x10 Hammer rope cable curls-4x10 Single leg press(for rehab)-5x15 Weight has gone up a little, but body is definitely recomping. I wish I would have taken measurements, and right now it would be kind of a waste, but I might take measurements at the end of the cycle to see how close I am to where I was. I've ben hard pressed for time, but food intake should be increasing and workouts will probably be improving since I can start getting into the gym earlier in the night and I will have much more free time. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-29-2008, 04:14 PM	#22
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	Good work bro

10-29-2008, 04:22 PM	#23
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	Keep posting updates my man, and let us see that progress.

10-31-2008, 01:11 AM	#24
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	Well, no numbers for yesterdays workout but I did the following.... Machine high pulls Pullups Cable low pulls Back extensions Cable reverse flys I wasn't feeling the heavy weights yesterday, so I'm going to hold off till Saturday to do my heavy lifts like my deads. Today went as followed.... Smith machine military press-2x135x10 1X225X8 3X315X3 Lying cable upright rows-4x12 Close grip bench press-4x10 Cable side and front raises-4x10 each Shrugs-4x8 Single leg press for rehab-5x15 I don't know what it is but my leg has been extremly sore lately, maybe cause I'm pushing the rehab, but I gotta do something cause its not gettnig better on its own. ANyways, weight is up another couple of pounds. I didn't eat a whole lot today cause of my schedule and I'm still up to about 246. That would mean I'm about 10 pounds heavier than where I started, give or take. Skin is getting alot tighter, unfortunately, so is my ROM. Stretching, for me, is easier said than done, but I need to start hitting it again or else I'm not going to be able to move by the end of this. PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

10-31-2008, 09:41 AM	#25
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	So after nearly a month what do you think of the stack overall? Not what you had hoped for or those personal bests you think still on their way?

10-31-2008, 05:09 PM	#26
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	That was a heavy cycle I would be interested in if the gains were worth it.

11-01-2008, 08:11 PM	#29
chobby192 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: united states Posts: 658	Why do people do cycle? Does it give permanent mass or one has to keep doing it to keep that mass? Since there is also 'post cycle', I am assuming it does some damage to internal organ. Can someone tell me why do people do cycle?

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