Cel H-drol & Orestan E Stack Question

angel77 · 10-08-2008, 01:31 PM

I have a good buddy of mine that's going to start a stack of C.E.L. H-Drol & Orestan E. He is 6'2" 242 lbs. He is a big guy that wants to gain some strength and lean out a bit.
From all I have read guys that use C.E.L. H-Drol use it for upwards of 8 weeks. He only has 1 bottle of each and was planning on a 30 day (ON CYCLE) at 50mg H-Drol and 2 tabs OrestanE.
Will he benefit from these doses? If he picked up another bottle of H-Drol should he run the Orestan at the beginning of cycle, at the end of cycle, or cut the dosage and run all the way through? Thanks for your help!!

zombul · 10-08-2008, 01:42 PM

I think 30 days of H Drol would be fine and reccomended for a first cycle. He could run the orastan at the reccomended dosage as well through the cycle for 30 days.

angel77 · 10-08-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

I think 30 days of H Drol would be fine and reccomended for a first cycle. He could run the orastan at the reccomended dosage as well through the cycle for 30 days.

even with him being such a big guy? most all run the H-Drol @ 50/75/75/100 and even for longer periods up to 8 weeks. If he takes more than 50mg a day he won't have enough. Will he see good gains at 50mg for 4 weeks?

angel77 · 10-08-2008, 04:47 PM

bump..

zombul · 10-08-2008, 08:09 PM

Yes he will see gains. I think people that are taking the large doses are because they have ran it before or they "think" alot more will be alot better.I'm sure 50mg would suffice.

fzane1976 · 12-10-2008, 07:59 PM

Looking for some advice. I'm 32 years old 6 foot, 205 pounds. I've been lifting for 4 years. I recently purchased Competitive Edge Labs H Drol, along with 6 oxo for pct. I will also take milk thistle. When are the best times to take the hdrol, should i take the milk thistle right after i take a hdrol. I also currently take propecia for hairloss, is this safe to take with the hdrol. In the past I have taken lg sciences methyl 1d with formadrol. had decent gains, any advice would help thanks

Ben dur · 12-10-2008, 08:12 PM

the timing should not be too big of an issue
so long as the dosage is met daily

it takes the body a few days to build up the substance within the body....
similarly you will be "on" for days after the last dosage has sense past your lips

likewise the milk thistle will not have a critical timing issue...
it should be preloaded, and should be continue through your PCT

your PCT seems to be in desperate need of assistance though

lucifuge · 12-10-2008, 08:16 PM

4 weeks at 50mg should be fine.
I just ran it and had good results.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...rol-havoc.html (6 weeks of fun with H-Drol & Havoc)

angel77 · 12-11-2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzane1976

Looking for some advice. I'm 32 years old 6 foot, 205 pounds. I've been lifting for 4 years. I recently purchased Competitive Edge Labs H Drol, along with 6 oxo for pct. I will also take milk thistle. When are the best times to take the hdrol, should i take the milk thistle right after i take a hdrol. I also currently take propecia for hairloss, is this safe to take with the hdrol. In the past I have taken lg sciences methyl 1d with formadrol. had decent gains, any advice would help thanks

Pick up Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolva) for PCT. take 20/20/10/10. Start taking the 6xo week 3 of PCT and start high doses and taper down. Hope this helps.

fzane1976 · 12-11-2008, 09:38 PM

isn't nolva for breast cancer

fzane1976 · 12-11-2008, 09:39 PM

also please explain the 20/20/10/10

Ben dur · 12-12-2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzane1976

isn't nolva for breast cancer

yes it is

it is referred to as a "SERM"

or

selective
estrogen
receptor
modulator

it will stop you from growing male breast tissue if your hormones get out of proportion, which they often do when people take steroids....

id suggest you look into it, if nothing else it should be on hand in the case that symptoms occur

biggfly · 12-12-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzane1976

also please explain the 20/20/10/10

You need to do some more homework...no one here is going to hold your hand through your cycle...study the stickies and such first, ask after you have done your research.

angel77 · 12-13-2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzane1976

also please explain the 20/20/10/10

your cycle is 4 weeks ON the compound and 4 weeks off for PCT. 20mg Nolva week 1 PCT, 20mg week 2, 10mg weeks 3 and 10mg weeks 4. Dose everyday. 20/20/10/10. This is just showing amounts to take daily for weeks 1-4 of PCT.

workingatit43 · 12-13-2008, 02:29 PM

Nolva 20/20/10/10 weeks 1-4 of pct

Post Cycle Support weeks 3-6 of pct 2 caps a.m. and p.m.

If you were running a h-drol only cycle you could get by with just the Post Cycle Support but it is always wise to have a SERM.

10-08-2008, 01:31 PM	#1
angel77 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 146	Cel H-drol & Orestan E Stack Question I have a good buddy of mine that's going to start a stack of C.E.L. H-Drol & Orestan E. He is 6'2" 242 lbs. He is a big guy that wants to gain some strength and lean out a bit. From all I have read guys that use C.E.L. H-Drol use it for upwards of 8 weeks. He only has 1 bottle of each and was planning on a 30 day (ON CYCLE) at 50mg H-Drol and 2 tabs OrestanE. Will he benefit from these doses? If he picked up another bottle of H-Drol should he run the Orestan at the beginning of cycle, at the end of cycle, or cut the dosage and run all the way through? Thanks for your help!!

12-10-2008, 08:12 PM	#7
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,233 Photos: 6	the timing should not be too big of an issue so long as the dosage is met daily it takes the body a few days to build up the substance within the body.... similarly you will be "on" for days after the last dosage has sense past your lips likewise the milk thistle will not have a critical timing issue... it should be preloaded, and should be continue through your PCT your PCT seems to be in desperate need of assistance though 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

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10-08-2008, 01:42 PM	#2
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	I think 30 days of H Drol would be fine and reccomended for a first cycle. He could run the orastan at the reccomended dosage as well through the cycle for 30 days.

10-08-2008, 04:47 PM	#4
angel77 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 146	bump..

10-08-2008, 08:09 PM	#5
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	Yes he will see gains. I think people that are taking the large doses are because they have ran it before or they "think" alot more will be alot better.I'm sure 50mg would suffice.

12-10-2008, 07:59 PM	#6
fzane1976 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 3	Looking for some advice. I'm 32 years old 6 foot, 205 pounds. I've been lifting for 4 years. I recently purchased Competitive Edge Labs H Drol, along with 6 oxo for pct. I will also take milk thistle. When are the best times to take the hdrol, should i take the milk thistle right after i take a hdrol. I also currently take propecia for hairloss, is this safe to take with the hdrol. In the past I have taken lg sciences methyl 1d with formadrol. had decent gains, any advice would help thanks

12-10-2008, 08:16 PM	#8
lucifuge 100 Proof Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 1,472 Photos: 14	4 weeks at 50mg should be fine. I just ran it and had good results. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...rol-havoc.html (6 weeks of fun with H-Drol & Havoc)

12-11-2008, 09:38 PM	#10
fzane1976 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 3	isn't nolva for breast cancer

12-11-2008, 09:39 PM	#11
fzane1976 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 3	also please explain the 20/20/10/10

12-13-2008, 02:29 PM	#15
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	Nolva 20/20/10/10 weeks 1-4 of pct Post Cycle Support weeks 3-6 of pct 2 caps a.m. and p.m. If you were running a h-drol only cycle you could get by with just the Post Cycle Support but it is always wise to have a SERM.