Epistane with cycle support

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 12:39 PM

Ok I am thinking of doing an epistane cycle next year and I was wonderign would I need Nolva or clomid for pct or if I could just use what is in this stack?

Epistane/Cycle Support/Post Cycle Support Stack By: IBE

soxmuscle · 11-27-2008, 12:43 PM

You're 15, dumbass.

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 12:50 PM

BTW I will be doing this for lean gains and to minimize my gyno.My diet will be in check and I will eat clean foods and only drink water and milk.Also what would be best? 20/30/30/40?

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

You're 15, dumbass.

I know I'm 15.

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 12:59 PM

What if I pulse cycle taking 20mg before and after lifting 3 times a week

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 01:04 PM

EPISTANE would do the last chart on there

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 06:55 PM

I have read that if you pulse then you dont need pct but would it help if i used 6-0X0 after pulsing?

Mista · 11-27-2008, 08:45 PM

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Mista · 11-27-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KEFE

I know I'm 15.

KEFE · 11-27-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mista

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I know that. I am fully aware of what the label says and I know that epistane is a designer steroid. I am either using epistane and then 6-oxo or just 6-oxo by itself or epi by its self. Epistane is supposed to be less harsh than most legal stuff and if I pulse cycle it will minimize shutdown and side effects.

angel77 · 11-28-2008, 06:54 AM

This could inflict permanent damage to your body if you take steroids at your age. I would seriously reconsider.

If your stubborn and not properly educated and you insist on doing it anyway YOU DO need Nolva. 20/20/10/10. I do not condone this at all man. Read into the sides for someone your age taking this stuff. You look plenty big for your age anyway. You have years of naturally building before you'll need this for gains.
Just lookin' out for ya man.

ReproMan · 11-28-2008, 09:33 AM

Don't be fucking stupid KEFE...

workingatit43 · 11-28-2008, 12:45 PM

You are way to young for one. Second mistake is your posting a link to a site that is not a board sponsor. Discount bodybuilding supplements from BSN and other leading brands on sbmuscle.com is the supp web store here. Stay away from the steriods or you will be sorry before your 18th birthday

Moondogg · 11-28-2008, 02:23 PM

Why do you feel the need? Do you actually think that you will have hit your natural peak by then?

KEFE · 11-28-2008, 06:38 PM

I'm doing it mainly for the gyno

KEFE · 11-28-2008, 06:51 PM

Its not like I'm stacking a few PH's together and stuff. I am taking one of the least harmful ones and its not like im doing SD.

**Prince** · 11-28-2008, 07:29 PM

it's not a good idea to mess with your hormones at the age of 15, it can have long term and irreversible side effects.

KEFE · 11-28-2008, 10:50 PM

I understand that it would not be a good idea to mess with hormones but i would still like to do a cycle of epistane

**dg806** · 11-29-2008, 09:46 AM

Kefe, you have way too much going for you to mess with steroids at your age. You have started a great foundation and you can continue to work on it and when you get old enough to safely take them, you will have an awesome physique if you keep training the way you should. If you take them now, you are going to mess all that up. Please don't chance that. There are other ways you can deal with any gyno. And to me it doesn't look bad.

KEFE · 11-29-2008, 10:33 AM

Ok well maybe i will reconsider things. What is the best nat test booster/ estrogen lowering product that I can get from SB?

KEFE · 11-29-2008, 10:40 AM

BTW SBmuscle website is acting superslow man

**Prince** · 11-29-2008, 10:46 AM

its normal for a teen going through puberty to experience mild gyno, from what I see in your pics its not bad and you should not worry about it.

keep training hard and smart, stay on a good diet, use whey protein and creatine, you will grow!

KEFE · 11-29-2008, 10:57 AM

I would like to know the best one in each of these categories that you guys carry at SB:

Creatine
Test booster
Fat burner
Multi
ZMA
Anti-est

**Prince** · 11-29-2008, 11:12 AM

the only supp you need that you listed is creatine.

KEFE · 11-29-2008, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

the only supp you need that you listed is creatine.

Man creatine willl barely get me anywhere. I have too much estrogen which is why i have gyno now. Estrogen isn't good for muscle building. I need ZMA for better sleep. Fat burner because they have not only fat burning ingredients but energy too.Multi for general well being and everyday function

bio-chem · 11-29-2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KEFE

Man creatine willl barely get me anywhere. I have too much estrogen which is why i have gyno now. Estrogen isn't good for muscle building. I need ZMA for better sleep. Fat burner because they have not only fat burning ingredients but energy too.Multi for general well being and everyday function

have you read any of these replies to you? c'mon dude. like prince said gyno at your age is not uncommon. at your age your natural test levels are sky high which means you are also going to have some higher estrogen levels as well. don't worry about it. you have good size and deffinition for your age. leave it be. are you competing any time soon in any event that your mild case of gyno will interfere with? no? then spend more time taking pictures of yourself while constipated so mino has material to work with

hyperlite32 · 11-29-2008, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

Kefe, you have way too much going for you to mess with steroids at your age. You have started a great foundation and you can continue to work on it and when you get old enough to safely take them, you will have an awesome physique if you keep training the way you should. If you take them now, you are going to mess all that up. Please don't chance that. There are other ways you can deal with any gyno. And to me it doesn't look bad.

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KEFE · 11-29-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

have you read any of these replies to you? c'mon dude. like prince said gyno at your age is not uncommon. at your age your natural test levels are sky high which means you are also going to have some higher estrogen levels as well. don't worry about it. you have good size and deffinition for your age. leave it be. are you competing any time soon in any event that your mild case of gyno will interfere with? no? then spend more time taking pictures of yourself while constipated so mino has material to work with

not everyone is going to have high testosterone just because they are a teen. I know gyno is not uncommon .

**Prince** · 11-29-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KEFE

not everyone is going to have high testosterone just because they are a teen. I know gyno is not uncommon .

you're correct, but the fact that you do have gyno at 15 would lead me to believe you do have high test levels.

KEFE · 11-29-2008, 12:40 PM

Well anyway SBmucle really needs to do somethnig abotu their site because i can barely shop on it

11-27-2008, 12:39 PM	#1
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	Epistane with cycle support Ok I am thinking of doing an epistane cycle next year and I was wonderign would I need Nolva or clomid for pct or if I could just use what is in this stack? Epistane/Cycle Support/Post Cycle Support Stack By: IBE 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-27-2008, 12:43 PM	#2
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	You're 15, dumbass. Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

11-27-2008, 12:50 PM	#3
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	BTW I will be doing this for lean gains and to minimize my gyno.My diet will be in check and I will eat clean foods and only drink water and milk.Also what would be best? 20/30/30/40? 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-27-2008, 12:59 PM	#5
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	What if I pulse cycle taking 20mg before and after lifting 3 times a week 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-27-2008, 01:04 PM	#6
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	EPISTANE would do the last chart on there 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-27-2008, 06:55 PM	#7
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	I have read that if you pulse then you dont need pct but would it help if i used 6-0X0 after pulsing? 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-27-2008, 08:45 PM	#8
Mista Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 2,288	Warnings: Consult a physician before taking this product particularly if you are taking prescription medication. Not for persons under the age of 18. Women who are pregnant or nursing should not use this product, if you have or have had a family history of heart disease, thyroid disease, diabetes or high blood pressure or if you are using monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOI)Individuals sensitive to sulpher should use precaution before taking this product. This product contains sulpher. Exceeping the recommended dosage may cause adverse health effects. KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Bodybuilding.com - Innovative Body Enhancement Epistane - Dry Gains! On sale now! My journal

11-28-2008, 06:54 AM	#11
angel77 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 146	Don't do it....... This could inflict permanent damage to your body if you take steroids at your age. I would seriously reconsider. If your stubborn and not properly educated and you insist on doing it anyway YOU DO need Nolva. 20/20/10/10. I do not condone this at all man. Read into the sides for someone your age taking this stuff. You look plenty big for your age anyway. You have years of naturally building before you'll need this for gains. Just lookin' out for ya man.

11-28-2008, 09:33 AM	#12
ReproMan Señor Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 7,260	Don't be fucking stupid KEFE...

11-28-2008, 12:45 PM	#13
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	You are way to young for one. Second mistake is your posting a link to a site that is not a board sponsor. Discount bodybuilding supplements from BSN and other leading brands on sbmuscle.com is the supp web store here. Stay away from the steriods or you will be sorry before your 18th birthday

11-28-2008, 02:23 PM	#14
Moondogg Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 802	Why do you feel the need? Do you actually think that you will have hit your natural peak by then?

11-28-2008, 06:38 PM	#15
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	I'm doing it mainly for the gyno 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-28-2008, 06:51 PM	#16
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	Its not like I'm stacking a few PH's together and stuff. I am taking one of the least harmful ones and its not like im doing SD. 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-28-2008, 07:29 PM	#17
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,405 Photos: 356	it's not a good idea to mess with your hormones at the age of 15, it can have long term and irreversible side effects. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

11-28-2008, 10:50 PM	#18
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	I understand that it would not be a good idea to mess with hormones but i would still like to do a cycle of epistane 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-29-2008, 09:46 AM	#19
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Kefe, you have way too much going for you to mess with steroids at your age. You have started a great foundation and you can continue to work on it and when you get old enough to safely take them, you will have an awesome physique if you keep training the way you should. If you take them now, you are going to mess all that up. Please don't chance that. There are other ways you can deal with any gyno. And to me it doesn't look bad. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

11-29-2008, 10:33 AM	#20
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	Ok well maybe i will reconsider things. What is the best nat test booster/ estrogen lowering product that I can get from SB? 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-29-2008, 10:40 AM	#21
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	BTW SBmuscle website is acting superslow man 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-29-2008, 10:46 AM	#22
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,405 Photos: 356	its normal for a teen going through puberty to experience mild gyno, from what I see in your pics its not bad and you should not worry about it. keep training hard and smart, stay on a good diet, use whey protein and creatine, you will grow! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

11-29-2008, 10:57 AM	#23
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	I would like to know the best one in each of these categories that you guys carry at SB: Creatine Test booster Fat burner Multi ZMA Anti-est 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

11-29-2008, 11:12 AM	#24
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,405 Photos: 356	the only supp you need that you listed is creatine. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

11-29-2008, 12:40 PM	#30
KEFE *****Labs Elite Member** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the gym Posts: 2,297 Photos: 16	Well anyway SBmucle really needs to do somethnig abotu their site because i can barely shop on it 15 years old Bench 220x2 Squat max 260-280 Can't deadlift right now because of back pain from accutane. 162lbs 5'6

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