Thread: M-drol questions

Originally Posted by spartan0502

Ok I'm 15 years old 5'8 156 and looking to use m-drol for football. I was just wondering what i should be doing, how much I should be taking, what else I should take with it, and what kind of side effects there will be at my age. Goals for March, bench-235 squat-425 deadlift-450. Thanks.

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You are not old enough. Don't even consider this

Originally Posted by GOtriSports

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You are not old enough. Don't even consider this

Yes, I know that, but I'm probably going to take it anyway. So....

So you don't mind being fd up and not being able to make gains later in life? No ones going to condone or help you f yourself up. This falls under the category of stupid. Now that you know that I feel you'll make the right choice and not do that because I don't belive your stupid.

bad idea
bad bad bad idea
here's some interesting stuff for ya

YouTube Video

Good vid.

at your age all you need is protien and food
i started lifting at age 15 with a good diet started benching 130lbs and in 12 months was benching 200lbs+

Im sure you guys are right, and i have no idea what I'm talking about, it could wait 2 or 3 year I guess, but what should i be taking, right now im on NaNo Vapor, Cell Drive, and Mass xxx. Is that awful for me?

Originally Posted by spartan0502

Im sure you guys are right, and i have no idea what I'm talking about, it could wait 2 or 3 year I guess, but what should i be taking, right now im on NaNo Vapor, Cell Drive, and Mass xxx. Is that awful for me?

all you need to grow is food even with steroids if you dont eat you won't grow
also get enough sleep and don't overtrain
what type of workout are you following? the school football workout im guessing

Originally Posted by ironbull

all you need to grow is food even with steroids if you dont eat you won't grow
also get enough sleep and don't overtrain
what type of workout are you following? the school football workout im guessing

Well the lifting as a team doesn't start for a while, but one of my friend's dad used to be a bodybuilder and won a few comps, and owns a gym so I've been goin there 5 times a week for the past 2 months. So he tells me what to do.

Originally Posted by spartan0502

Well the lifting as a team doesn't start for a while, but one of my friend's dad used to be a bodybuilder and won a few comps, and owns a gym so I've been goin there 5 times a week for the past 2 months. So he tells me what to do.

well tell us what you do there. Let us know your routine. 5 days a week may be too often if you want to grow. Also, what does your diet look like? What are you current macros?

Originally Posted by GOtriSports

well tell us what you do there. Let us know your routine. 5 days a week may be too often if you want to grow. Also, what does your diet look like? What are you current macros?

Monday- chest, tris
tuesday- shoulders, bis
Wendesday- legs, abs
thursday- off
Friday- back, footwork
saturday- speed
Diet nothing special take nano vapor before and creatine after. protein after workout and before bed.

Originally Posted by spartan0502

Monday- chest, tris
tuesday- shoulders, bis
Wendesday- legs, abs
thursday- off
Friday- back, footwork
saturday- speed
Diet nothing special take nano vapor before and creatine after. protein after workout and before bed.

Diet possibly the MOST important factor in training. If you want to see results with or without steroids you need to have a solid diet. Can you give us an example of what you eat daily?

ya I'm no very consistent with that. What would you suggest. Providing I'm looking to gain weight and increase my bench I'm seeing amazing improvement in my squat and deadlift but not in my bench. Thanks.

Originally Posted by spartan0502

Im sure you guys are right, and i have no idea what I'm talking about, it could wait 2 or 3 year I guess, but what should i be taking, right now im on NaNo Vapor, Cell Drive, and Mass xxx. Is that awful for me?

No, you should wait till after at least 21 to take any steroids. I won't tell you why just yet, I will let you research that yourself. There is plenty of info on here about it if you search.

Originally Posted by spartan0502

ya I'm no very consistent with that. What would you suggest. Providing I'm looking to gain weight and increase my bench I'm seeing amazing improvement in my squat and deadlift but not in my bench. Thanks.

Read the stickies in the diet and nutrition section of these forums. Look at bulking

I hate posting eat everything, but your another case that may want to just eat alot. Lift hard and spend alot of time on deadlifts, and squatts. You may also hit the leg press and do some bench pressing but if you just want to train for strength then focus on those lifts and build around them. Don't neglect how important food is. I know this is a supplement forum and you want info on supplements but the truth is in your case food IS your best option bro.

Originally Posted by zombul

I hate posting eat everything, but your another case that may want to just eat alot. Lift hard and spend alot of time on deadlifts, and squatts. You may also hit the leg press and do some bench pressing but if you just want to train for strength then focus on those lifts and build around them. Don't neglect how important food is. I know this is a supplement forum and you want info on supplements but the truth is in your case food IS your best option bro.

FOOD = #1 Supplement if you ask me. We are giving him what he wants. He will grow more from just eating right than taking M-drol and not eating right. AND he probably won't kill himself with eating. The M-drol would kill him (melodramatic much?)

Originally Posted by dg806

No, you should wait till after at least 21 to take any steroids. I won't tell you why just yet, I will let you research that yourself. There is plenty of info on here about it if you search.

I agree here 100% I may even suggest 23 or older.

Yes, I know its bad at my age and did some research, but what will actually happen to me. I know a couple of my friends who tried it screwed up their nipples, even with estrogen blockers, and they told me the effects didn't last. One of my buddies even said he was benching 360 at the beginning of summer, and now thats hes off it, hes struggling at 315.

I also asked my dad, and he said he'd get me a nutritionist.

Originally Posted by spartan0502

Yes, I know its bad at my age and did some research, but what will actually happen to me. I know a couple of my friends who tried it screwed up their nipples, even with estrogen blockers, and they told me the effects didn't last. One of my buddies even said he was benching 360 at the beginning of summer, and now thats hes off it, hes struggling at 315.

oh... they THINK the effects didn't last...

but this just means they are gyno sensitive and givin another cycle, they could develop some serious breast tissue


other sides include

high blood pressure
high cholesterol
low HDL level
toxic liver
gyno
acne
kidney problems
low natural test levels
botched endocrine system

im sure the list goes on

chemical changes in your brain.

Originally Posted by nni

chemical changes in your brain.

could you eleborate?

Originally Posted by Ben dur

oh... they THINK the effects didn't last...

but this just means they are gyno sensitive and givin another cycle, they could develop some serious breast tissue


other sides include

high blood pressure
high cholesterol
low HDL level
toxic liver
gyno
acne
kidney problems
low natural test levels
botched endocrine system

im sure the list goes on

No, I didn't mean the side effects. I meant the bench going down part, he didn't keep his lifts. That can't be how it's supposed to work, is it?
Also anything can happen with any drug, it doesn't mean it's going to. Plus, high bp, cholesteral, HDL, and acne are reversable, Right? And everyone reacts differently to things. I'm not saying I'm going to take the stuff, I just did some homework and am pretty curious.

Originally Posted by ironbull

could you eleborate?

there is a blossoming area of research examining the effect of steroid use on the adolescent brain. they are seeing changes especially with aggression and depression. not enough to claim it as a guarantee, but enough to mention it as a possible result.

Originally Posted by spartan0502

No, I didn't mean the side effects. I meant the bench going down part, he didn't keep his lifts. That can't be how it's supposed to work, is it?
Also anything can happen with any drug, it doesn't mean it's going to. Plus, high bp, cholesteral, HDL, and acne are reversable, Right? And everyone reacts differently to things. I'm not saying I'm going to take the stuff, I just did some homework and am pretty curious.

it is all on the user. you need to keep lifting hard and eating right during pct. once you let down, so will the results. pct is not a time to wind down, many people do this and lose gains.

Originally Posted by nni

it is all on the user. you need to keep lifting hard and eating right during pct. once you let down, so will the results. pct is not a time to wind down, many people do this and lose gains.

Sorry, I don't follow. Can you explain?

during PCT some of the result may be lost due to the lowered level of test...

but in my opinion if you are still lifting heavy, and still giving your body full recovery, and proper nutrition

almost all of the gains can be retained

however

recovery times will be slightly longer after the cycle
and nutritional requirement slightly different

not to mention the actual PCT must be executed properly to ensure proper return to normal natural test levels



so
if not done correctly

you could gain a little fat on the cycle
grow breasts
and loose all your muscle and strength gains afterward

leaving you fatter
bustier
and not much stronger...