Thread: Epistane cycles & Age

its a steroid, taking any steroid as a teen is one of the dumbest things that you can do.

Supplementation of any hormonal products before the age of 25 is really not neccessary because normally most have not hit a true plateau. 25 is a good starting age for these types of products.

Originally Posted by Christopher J

Supplementation of any hormonal products before the age of 25 is really not neccessary because normally most have not hit a true plateau. 25 is a good starting age for these types of products.

I agree I would wait but not using more than liver support is not a great idea. Blood pressure is also a issue Cycle Support contains all that is needed to be safe on cycle. Again I would wait a few years.

CYCLE SUPPORT

Originally Posted by Christopher J

Supplementation of any hormonal products before the age of 25 is really not neccessary because normally most have not hit a true plateau. 25 is a good starting age for these types of products.

I hear this argument a lot from users far more experienced than me, so I give it credit, but it seems like someone in their early 20s would have an advantage in that they would be able to bounce back and produce more testosterone, faster after cycle since the indocrine system is in better shape. I don't know of any scientific data that could back that up but it feels right to me. Also, the older you get, the higher a man's estrogen levels and I hear that people who get gyno on cycles are most often predisposed to high estrogen levels (bad ratio compared to testosterone to begin with). I wouldn't promote the idea of a teen using steroids but 21+ sounds okay.

Originally Posted by flashinglights

I hear this argument a lot from users far more experienced than me, so I give it credit, but it seems like someone in their early 20s would have an advantage in that they would be able to bounce back and produce more testosterone, faster after cycle since the indocrine system is in better shape. I don't know of any scientific data that could back that up but it feels right to me. Also, the older you get, the higher a man's estrogen levels and I hear that people who get gyno on cycles are most often predisposed to high estrogen levels (bad ratio compared to testosterone to begin with). I wouldn't promote the idea of a teen using steroids but 21+ sounds okay.

your brain doesnt stop developing until around 23. steroids can and will effect your brain chemistry makeup if you take them too young. that is more important in my opinion.

I don't condone you using at your age but if you need help and are going to run anyway please pm me. I ran Havoc (same as Epistane) and will help if possible. Cheers and I hope you had a great holiday...

Your dosing needs some help. You also need to check PCT products. This will shut you down. You'll need a SERM. Toremifene, Tamoxifene, or Clomid. I can explain more later.

Being 22 living in NJ and having gone to a private school with highly competetive sports, doing a cycle has many times over been offered and tempting.. After all that, seeing about half of my friends jump on something, I've been looking for every reasdon not to.. After balooning up to almost 250 then getting down to 225 in a matter of 3-4 months, then seeing the amount of muscle I was able to build with a clean diet and protein, that was more than enough for ne to swear off juice alltogether

Originally Posted by angel77

I don't condone you using at your age but if you need help and are going to run anyway please pm me. I ran Havoc (same as Epistane) and will help if possible. Cheers and I hope you had a great holiday...

Your dosing needs some help. You also need to check PCT products. This will shut you down. You'll need a SERM. Toremifene, Tamoxifene, or Clomid. I can explain more later.

LOL Reminds me of that charity that gives heroin addicts clean needles. They figure since they're going to do it anyway and won't go to rehab, they might as well shoot it safely and not spread AIDS. Of course steroids are nothing like heroin but you catch my drift lol.

Originally Posted by flashinglights

LOL Reminds me of that charity that gives heroin addicts clean needles. They figure since they're going to do it anyway and won't go to rehab, they might as well shoot it safely and not spread AIDS. Of course steroids are nothing like heroin but you catch my drift lol.

Lolol that's horrible lol (ps I couldn't agree more!!) Ok well sorta, I get your point, but this is for someone's protection while doing something many people here do(ok bad paralell) its one thing to educate someone for the first time, its another to enable their behavior