I have already posted this once but no one really took the time to help me. The only responses I got were telling me how much of an ass I am for considering this. I know the risk. Which product should I take. I have only have 25 days to change my body as much as possible. Please help.
I'm 21 years old. 5'10. 186 lbs. I have been lifting since I was 16 on and off (and when I say off, I mean there will be 2-3 months when I am completely abscent from the gym due to work etc..) Since I can remember I have had every friend around me take a pro-hormone at one point and had the kind of results in one month that I barely get in a year. All 4 years of highschool I constantly turned them down during wrestling and football. I did not amuse the notion of taking them although saying it was tempting does not describe it. Anyways I'll get to the point. I have a very good frame and I would say I'm as noligible as the next guy when it comes to lifting. I am becoming a firefighter and I have the physical part of the exam coming up in a few months and I want to do emaculate. BUT for the life of me..I cannot get rid of my spare tire. I have had a little extra fat on my lower stomach and love handles since i can remember. I also cannot break 200 lbs. I have tried through countless diets. I am taking one of the two products listed in the title..I would just like a more professional opinion then mine on which one to take. Any advice would be appreciated. thank you
should I repost the thread there?
no, just post the answers to the questions here. I will reply after I get back from the gym.
This statement is one reason you should not be taking steriods. If this is your 1st cycle either of these choices are not good ones more so with the R.A.G.E.4 which is a triple steriod(2 of them being methyls). I do no think you really know the risk your putting yourself in at 21 and wanting to run VERY harsh oral steriods. Not trying to be a ass or flame you but you need to do some research. Steriods are not a quick fix and to run them to change your body in 25 days is not the right reason to be doing this.
what do you suggest i do...I'm out of options...I'm tapped and desperate
If your set on doing it anyway then don't start off with one of those because you can resort to them later. A milder one will give you incredible gains your first time out. Try on of these Competitive Edge Labs E-Stane 90 caps
Xtreme Tren-XXL 100 Caps
Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol - Halodrol clone 60 caps
Taking SD or a triple steroid compound is going to make it harder for you to make gains with a ph later. Start smaller and you'll still see gains since you've never done any.
How about you answer the questions like I asked. Depending on your goals you might be able to do quite a bit in 25 days. PH's are a bad idea, your not ready and do not have the knowledge. If you cant gain weight, either you diet or training (or both) are not in check. At 186lbs you have a lot more room for natural growth. If you cant get rid of the fat on your stomach, your not dieting properly. Simple as that.
Now please answer the question and we'll see what can be done in the timeframe.


You won't break 200 even with steroids without eating. If you can't gain weight by eating, a steroid won't help you. It's all about the diet. Why don't you post your diet and we go from there.
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Please post the answers to these questions.
oo i see thanks
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