Ephedrine HCL

danzik17 · 03-11-2009, 09:37 PM

Anyone have a good source for buying this outside of Vasopro (don't want the added junk, would rather mix it myself)?

Most of the sites I've seen look.....sketchy to say the least.

Ngordyn · 03-11-2009, 09:52 PM

i cant say i live in canada so it is readily available here , even being illegal in dosages over 8mg tablets and all that nonsense

could take a road trip

danzik17 · 03-11-2009, 10:24 PM

Found it

Doesn't look like I can get it by itself, but found a reputable site that I'd get VasoPro from.

Ngordyn · 03-11-2009, 10:33 PM

nice what are the dosages?

danzik17 · 03-11-2009, 10:41 PM

12.5mg tabs + guifen

Ngordyn · 03-11-2009, 10:49 PM

thats not bad least it doesnt contain a whole bunch of other stuff that you can mix out your self

danzik17 · 03-11-2009, 11:04 PM

Right.....the main issue was I didn't want something that had caffeine in it itself. I'm a coffee addict (I admit it) so I prefer to get my caffeine from there rather than pills.

Ngordyn · 03-12-2009, 12:08 AM

ya same here , love my timed coffee maker , fresh pot ready soon as i wake up

**Merkaba** · 03-12-2009, 12:19 AM

Yes....coffee...fresh ground

**IainDaniel** · 03-12-2009, 12:21 PM

Good luck finding Ephedrine by itself. Unless you want to register yourself with the State, so they can track you for manufacturing ecstasy.

Cgrant · 03-12-2009, 12:57 PM

Iain, nobody puts ephedrine in ecstasy, however it is on the meth precursor list.. Anywhere that sells any ephedrine product that is on the up and up requires I'd verification, and ONLY ships to the addy on your license. Just go ahead and register, they won't come knocking down your door unless you try to purchase more than the legal limit, or rotate suppliers. Simply, don't break the lawe and the DEA will leave you alone...

For a good PURE hcl, pick up bolt ephedrine HCL by D&E pharm, available online, dnepharmeceuticals.com (I think), its no bs and totally legit. Their store/factory is right by me, and they're really nice lol.. Good luck

Ngordyn · 03-12-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cgrant

Iain, nobody puts ephedrine in ecstasy, however it is on the meth precursor list.. Anywhere that sells any ephedrine product that is on the up and up requires I'd verification, and ONLY ships to the addy on your license. Just go ahead and register, they won't come knocking down your door unless you try to purchase more than the legal limit, or rotate suppliers. Simply, don't break the lawe and the DEA will leave you alone...

For a good PURE hcl, pick up bolt ephedrine HCL by D&E pharm, available online, dnepharmeceuticals.com (I think), its no bs and totally legit. Their store/factory is right by me, and they're really nice lol.. Good luck

methamphetamines and amphetamines are both made from ephedrine. Ecstasy is a derivative of amphetamines , also people make "fake" ecstasy pills using high doses of ephedrine and caffeine , causing close to the same effect as MDMA

Cgrant · 03-12-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ngordyn

methamphetamines and amphetamines are both made from ephedrine. Ecstasy is a derivative of amphetamines , also people make "fake" ecstasy pills using high doses of ephedrine and caffeine , causing close to the same effect as MDMA

Alllright you got me on a technicality.. I'm just going off my DEA research.. Ephedrine is classified as a meth precursor, and meth (any amphetamine) IS elementry in the production of x.. Ok now before the DEA storms the board, lol, danzik, you shouldn't be uneasy about tossing out your license (too much so) since even if someone DOES try to jack your identity, you'll have an idea who it was lol, just make sure rthe site you use is reputable and you're comfortable with them, like I said before, don't break the law and it won't break you!!

Ngordyn · 03-12-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cgrant

Alllright you got me on a technicality.. I'm just going off my DEA research.. Ephedrine is classified as a meth precursor, and meth (any amphetamine) IS elementry in the production of x.. Ok now before the DEA storms the board, lol, danzik, you shouldn't be uneasy about tossing out your license (too much so) since even if someone DOES try to jack your identity, you'll have an idea who it was lol, just make sure rthe site you use is reputable and you're comfortable with them, like I said before, don't break the law and it won't break you!!

lol got to love technicalities

**IainDaniel** · 03-12-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cgrant

Iain, nobody puts ephedrine in ecstasy, however it is on the meth precursor list.. Anywhere that sells any ephedrine product that is on the up and up requires I'd verification, and ONLY ships to the addy on your license. Just go ahead and register, they won't come knocking down your door unless you try to purchase more than the legal limit, or rotate suppliers. Simply, don't break the lawe and the DEA will leave you alone...

For a good PURE hcl, pick up bolt ephedrine HCL by D&E pharm, available online, dnepharmeceuticals.com (I think), its no bs and totally legit. Their store/factory is right by me, and they're really nice lol.. Good luck

Yep that is what I meant... my mistake.

juggernaut · 03-17-2009, 06:13 AM

Bronkaid. Available at Walgreens.

m11 · 05-06-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

Bronkaid. Available at Walgreens.

Primatene too, if you are looking for the hcl instead of the sulfate.

juggernaut · 05-06-2009, 09:08 PM

is there any difference? I cant remember.

m11 · 05-06-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

is there any difference? I cant remember.

i've tried researching this but the results are so varying its ridiculous. its almost like the science behind it is ignored or something. everyone has an opinion.

Sulfate has a greater molecular weight than HCl. I think it's like 96g/mol vs 36g/mol. Anyway, supposedly because of the difference in molecular weight, 25mg of ephedrine sulfate has less active ingredient than 25mg of ephedrine hcl. Some say the difference is negligible, some say it isn't. This is just one conjecture and I'm not sure if its correct or not.

I wouldn't mind if someone more certain on the topic would save the day with an answer.

shell37 · 05-06-2009, 11:20 PM

try sndonlinenet

Cgrant · 05-07-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shell37

try sndonlinenet

I could be wrong, but someone google that shit, I think its a bootleg of the canadian SND site...

juggernaut · 05-07-2009, 06:45 AM

walgreens sells all of this

Cgrant · 05-07-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m11

i've tried researching this but the results are so varying its ridiculous. its almost like the science behind it is ignored or something. everyone has an opinion.

Sulfate has a greater molecular weight than HCl. I think it's like 96g/mol vs 36g/mol. Anyway, supposedly because of the difference in molecular weight, 25mg of ephedrine sulfate has less active ingredient than 25mg of ephedrine hcl. Some say the difference is negligible, some say it isn't. This is just one conjecture and I'm not sure if its correct or not.

I wouldn't mind if someone more certain on the topic would save the day with an answer.

Having taken a good amount of hcl and having taken sulfite as part of a cold medicine, I can tell you you FEEL the difference

juggernaut · 05-07-2009, 11:27 AM

in what way?^^^

shell37 · 06-30-2009, 08:39 AM

Cgrant · 12-07-2009, 09:21 AM

follow up (9 months later lol)nthe different between sulfite and hcl is great. hcl gives you a rush and it lasts, sulfite is a boos for a little bit.. at absolute best. sndnet is a bootleg site. and apparently my favorite (bolt ephedrine hcl 25 MG) was banned in june, or so the mfg tells me