Thread: Will overkill of CEE kill my kidneys?

Not sure of the long term effects. I doubt anyone is but I can tell you I've been taking CEE in cycles for a few years now and had blood work done recently. I was on the CEE at the time and all my enzyme levels were perfect for what it's worth.

Originally Posted by Mags

Hey guys,

Is taking 6g of CEE each day going to be a bit of a strain on my kidneys? I was thinking 3g before training, and 3g afterwards.

Thanks.

of course it will, keep water intake high and I would say only take 3grams on off days.

Speaking of overkill, why is it that the bottles almost all say to take one serving before training and another serving after, for a total of 6g? Does regular old monohydrate state to take it before and after? Usually not, so why do they do this with CEE? Is it to use more product and make you buy more, or is there a genuine reason for using it before and after?

I would think one serving of 3g before training should be sufficient, thoughts?

Originally Posted by Stewart14

Speaking of overkill, why is it that the bottles almost all say to take one serving before training and another serving after, for a total of 6g? Does regular old monohydrate state to take it before and after? Usually not, so why do they do this with CEE? Is it to use more product and make you buy more, or is there a genuine reason for using it before and after?

I would think one serving of 3g before training should be sufficient, thoughts?

3grams should be, although body weight is a factor as well, keep in mind many males take 10grams of mono daily.

Originally Posted by Prince

3grams should be, although body weight is a factor as well, keep in mind many males take 10grams of mono daily.

Now, with mono, would 10g produce the same types of problems for your kidneys if you don't drink enough water? Isn't mono somewhat "safer" than the CEE?

Originally Posted by Stewart14

Now, with mono, would 10g produce the same types of problems for your kidneys if you don't drink enough water? Isn't mono somewhat "safer" than the CEE?

don't know, there are no studies that I know of.

I'm going to stick to just 3g a day before workouts. I only thought about doing the whole 'before and after' thing as, like Stewart14 mentioned, many supp. companies (in this case, BSN) suggest taking their products before and after training (as much as I'd like to say BSN were referring just to their Cellmass, they may well have suggested NO Explode before, Cell mass after - or vice verser - I can't remember).

As for Mono versus CEE, I always thought CEE was 'safer' and more effective because its ester allowed a higher rate of absorption, and significantly reduced the amount of creatine being converted to creatinine. I always thought that mono worked on the principle that you'd need to ingest, say, 10g of the stuff, simply to get six or so grams of creatine - sacrificing fairly large amounts to go unused and, worse, convert to the detrimental creatinine. I thought with the benefits of CEE above, you could get more/the same amount of active ingredient but at a much lower dose. Similar to how Kre-Akalyn is supposed to work (but obviously not as effective). Plus, with CEE there is the added bonus or not needing the whole 'loading' approach. I have no facts and figures to back any of this up, mind, this is just stuff I've read over the years.

Cheers guys.