Stuck in Neutral...."latest and greatest"

**bosshog107** · 05-04-2009, 09:15 PM

Alright here we go-

I am 200 pds right now looking to get to about 208-210. My body type is pretty lean--right now I am more "jailhouse big" than muscle cut. My food intake without being specific is on point. Chicken, fish, the whole nine. Not on a strict diet but I am constantly eating even if it means granola oat bars on the hour. I am working out 4 days a week for about 1 hr to 1.5. (hard and as heavy as I can go). Currently trying to bulk up a little before I tighten everything up to the max. I am doing the fish oil daily, working out using the "Xtend" (great by the way!!) shaker pre and post workout for aminos and recovery. I cycled creatin for a while and did see some gains but I didn't want a whole bunch of water where you could poke me w a pin and deflate me. I used whey for a good while and did not see much of a gain with it......I was thinking about a Cytogainer or something of the sort, or some sort of Protein to add calorie intake- What would you suggest is one of the best out there as far as bet bang for my buck and how often should I be taking it? I know there is a long list but what is the "latest and greatest"?

**Built** · 05-04-2009, 09:48 PM

What do you need help gaining right now, weight? Is that it?

**Marat** · 05-04-2009, 09:54 PM

Your food intake isn't going to be on point until you know precisely how many calories you are taking in. You can track it with FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal . In short, once you know what your maintenance is, you can increase your calories by 500/day and you'll see an increase of about 1 pound/week. Here's some information from one of our moderators, Built, on organizing your diet. Got Built? » How to set up a diet - basic carb cycling

Shakes and all that are just easy calories to get in, they aren't going to arbitrarily make you big.

**bosshog107** · 05-06-2009, 05:58 PM

Correct- I am just looking for an effective protein shake/mix to aid my workout. I appreciate the fitday info, I am adding healthy calories to my eating. Like I said- I was just looking for a couple recommendations as far as brands. I know there has to be some more "effective ones" or else people would settle for the 15$ bucket at wal mart everytime. I have heard of a couple........Cytogainer-Nos-Mass xxx, etc. Or maybe if I ran some muscle milk it would help in putting on a little extra and add protein. What I do understand and get.......is that I can only get as big as the effort I put in hitting the steel.

**nni** · 05-06-2009, 06:11 PM

my favorite is American Whey. cheap and high quality.

**Built** · 05-06-2009, 06:25 PM

bosshogg, easy calories: olive oil shot in one of your shakes.

**Whatsaroid?** · 05-06-2009, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Built

bosshogg, easy calories: olive oil shot in one of your shakes.

I just drink my flax oil or my Udos from the bottle instead of having it mess up my shakes. Once you get use to it you should be good I chew fish oil caps for fun but I'm weird

**Built** · 05-06-2009, 07:14 PM

There's that, too yes.

You can also get flavoured fish oil liquid.

I'm not in love with flax oil. I take a LOT of fish oil though!

**nni** · 05-06-2009, 07:25 PM

health from the sea fish oil is of excellent quality and has orange oil to mask the flavor.

**Built** · 05-06-2009, 07:28 PM

Oh, right on. Thanks nni!

**egodog48** · 05-07-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Whatsaroid?

Once you get use to it you should be good I chew fish oil caps for fun but I'm weird

Yes, that is very weird

**bosshog107** · 05-07-2009, 08:06 PM

Beautiful!! I will take advice to heart. As far as the fish oil goes how many capsules would you say are good per day?

**Built** · 05-07-2009, 08:13 PM

10g of most commercial fish oil brands will provide 3g combined EPA/DHA, which the AHA says is safe to take without a doctor's supervision.

So that's what I recommend (and take!)

**bosshog107** · 05-07-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Built

10g of most commercial fish oil brands will provide 3g combined EPA/DHA, which the AHA says is safe to take without a doctor's supervision.

So that's what I recommend (and take!)

You will have to forgive my "stupidity" for a sec-------- I managed to rip the label off my fish oil pills (walmart omega 3 soft gels) How many would you say would you say would amount to 10g if you had to guest-a-mate?

**Built** · 05-07-2009, 09:20 PM

Ten.

**nkira** · 05-08-2009, 11:33 AM

The flax won't convert, right?

Originally Posted by Built

There's that, too yes.

You can also get flavoured fish oil liquid.

I'm not in love with flax oil. I take a LOT of fish oil though!

**Built** · 05-08-2009, 03:47 PM

It will - mediated by the enzyme delta 6 desaturase - but not well.

**Marat** · 05-08-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by nkira

The flax won't convert, right?

what is it supposed to convert to?

**nkira** · 05-09-2009, 07:38 AM

May be this will help link

Originally Posted by m11

what is it supposed to convert to?

**Marat** · 05-09-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by nkira

May be this will help link

thanks

**nkira** · 05-09-2009, 11:14 PM

**bosshog107** · 05-11-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Built

bosshogg, easy calories: olive oil shot in one of your shakes.

Anyone else use this method?????

**Built** · 05-11-2009, 05:51 PM

What method - extra calories in order to gain weight?

Olive oil is good for you. You are having a hard time gaining, right? There's some healthy calories for you, and they're easy to get in.

**bosshog107** · 05-12-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Built

What method - extra calories in order to gain weight?

Olive oil is good for you. You are having a hard time gaining, right? There's some healthy calories for you, and they're easy to get in.

Works for me.....just curious ------Built,when you are looking to gain what does your supplement intake rundown look like?

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