Best Creatine Transport System

Corri · 08-08-2002, 12:35 PM

OK, there seem to be hundreds out there now and it's getting harder and harder to seperate solid prducts from mass marketed crap.

I'm sure I missed a few, so post about a better one if it's not on the list, or throw some comments back at me on the ones up there.

Thanks boys

bigss75 · 08-09-2002, 11:28 AM

I liked the phosphagen if gave me decent gains. I have tryed celltech (i know that i preach about how crappy it is ) it gave me minamal muscle gains and a large amount of body fat. Only for hardgainer use only.

bigss75 · 08-09-2002, 11:29 AM

Please people dont vote all at once ur going to crash the site

Corri · 08-09-2002, 11:41 AM

lol..

There's been some talk in these forums about that Swole stuff. I was thinking about trying a bottle. As for the rest, they just seem SO expensive..

How can the Creatine transport make the Creatine cost twice as much? Or even more than that sometimes!

bigss75 · 08-09-2002, 12:38 PM

I would say just buy some creatine and some applejuice and have that with a protein shake and u would be fine. Swole from what everybody has been saying is garbage and not to be used.

Corri · 08-09-2002, 01:39 PM

I thought I heard the opposite about Swole. That it was TOO strong. So hard a spike it made gopro ill..

Didn't he call it "The next generation of Creatine Supplements" or something along those lines.. I'll keep checking on LAM's thread though. I hear he's made a guinea pig out of himself.

oldschoolboy · 08-29-2002, 10:28 AM

50g dextrose, 50g protein, 5g creatine. Studies have shown it works just as well as 100g dextrose and 5g creatine.

Robboe · 08-29-2002, 10:41 AM

Actually, the, almost paradoxical, effect of protein + carbs is that it induces more insulin than the same amount of carbs alone.

Logically, you'd expect the protein to slow the digestion and absorbtion and for insulin response to be lower, but such is not is the case.

Personally, as far as i'm concerned, it's a factor of money.

I don't buy overhyped and over priced supplements.

5-15g creatine + Xg dextrose + Yg malto + Zg protein = you're set, for a MUCH lower price.

Dextrose is cheap as shit, and malto bought in bulk costs hardly anything.

Protein is the only really 'proper' cost.

Creatine monohydrate is cheap (relatively).

No need to buy into all these shitey products for extra $$$ when they'll only make 1%* difference

*Made up statistic. But then again, 87.63%** of all statistics are made up on the spot.

**Another made up statistic.

**gopro** · 08-30-2002, 08:59 AM

Most people can make good gains on just plain creatine and grape juice, however, some people don't want the sugar. In this case a transport system can help out. Swole has been toned down and is a good one. V 12 is also a good choice. For most, throwing in 5 grams with a post workout shake of whey and carbs is just fine.

Tank316 · 10-17-2002, 11:07 PM

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For most, throwing in 5 grams with a post workout shake of whey and bs is just fine.

ditto my big friend

**gopro** · 10-18-2002, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Tank316
ditto my big friend

Great minds think alike...oh, and they build big f'n muscles too, LOL!

TheKlique · 11-03-2002, 02:05 AM

For the last few weeks I have been taking Cell Tech, HMB, Hydroxycut, Glutamine, and ZMA...

I am getting great gains, and size.. I have been using Cell Tech off and on for a couple months, and I must say that I cant get enough of it..

**gopro** · 11-04-2002, 09:19 AM

**dg806** · 11-20-2002, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by TheKlique
For the last few weeks I have been taking Cell Tech, HMB, Hydroxycut, Glutamine, and ZMA...

I am getting great gains, and size.. I have been using Cell Tech off and on for a couple months, and I must say that I cant get enough of it..

There are some that would argue the effect of each of these suppliments!

pureplaya616 · 11-21-2002, 08:24 AM

why does cell tech get such a bad rap, i havent used it but everyone i know seems split on it. I know that they are not the most trustworthy company

**gopro** · 11-23-2002, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by pureplaya616
why does cell tech get such a bad rap, i havent used it but everyone i know seems split on it. I know that they are not the most trustworthy company

The truth is, there is nothing "wrong" about Cell Tech. If you are looking to use a creatine product with no concern for adding some bodyfat, than Cell Tech is fine...in fact, its good. It contains German creatine (the best) and some ALA, along with 75 g of sugar which will give you a nice insulin spike. Personally, I don't feel that all that sugar is necessary to get benefits from creatine, but if its used once per day...post workout...there is nothing wrong with it (unless again, you are focusing on losing bodyfat).

The problems lies with Muscle Tech's advertising claims. They make it sound that their products are about the equal of steroids, which they are NOT. This is what leaves a bad taste in consumers' mouths!

odin52 · 07-13-2003, 02:28 AM

try creatine hsc by ast I have good results every time I used it.

RCfootball87 · 07-13-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by gopro
This is what leaves a bad taste in consumers' mouths!

As well as the Alpha Lapoic Acid it contains

OceanDude · 07-14-2003, 06:03 PM

I tend to agree with those that say there is a lot of hype in some of these products.

Thus said, I have used SyntheVol™ 2 HP and its not too bad on the sugar - only 105 cals at 10g sugar and 10 gm creatine.

I'd probably just as easily go with a pure pharmaceutical grade of creatine powder and add in with water and my post workout fast carb (e.g. ripe banana) and protein chaser. But when you have discount coupons and free merchandise incentives (for competitors in BFL) it’s more simple to just click “add to my cart” when on line ordering.

OH! Please note that this poll , the way it is constructed is pre-biased to favor companies with single products such as Muscle Techs' CellTech product. EAS products will get washed out and fragmented simply by the fact that they have a large number of specialized product offerings that just so happen to have Creatine in them. I am sure this was an oversight.

Nate · 07-15-2003, 02:23 PM

i've been losing bodyfat while on cell-tech.

timinator · 07-16-2003, 10:34 PM

in my opinion it is better to make your own delivery system. because then maybe there is too much or too little of an ingredient in the supplement. but if you mix up your own then you can put in the exact amounts, because you need different amounts for more/less training you do.

BigBallaGA · 07-21-2003, 11:19 AM

ripe bananas make any protien taste good, couple of drops of honey makes it even sweeter, if you using a flavorless protein.

ArduousMeister · 07-21-2003, 11:34 AM

Has anyone tried Krush4 by Allmax Nutrition? I have heard good things about it, never tried it. I have always just used the tried and true grape juice and creatine myself.

hustler11 · 08-24-2003, 12:38 AM

What good things have you heard abouti t? I tried a tub of it and dont think its worth the money at all. Its nothing innovating either, just creatine mono, dextrose, malto, and some other "complexes" they add like a nos complex and glutamine complex. Except the brochure and ingredients label doesnt indicate how much glutamine, and the nos complex isnt Arginine but some ginseng extract?

tk... · 08-27-2003, 04:23 PM

i have heard good things about Trac by MHP, it contains nitirc oxide already mixed ,,dont assk me how much g. of no2, cuz truthfully i have no idea, but to my knowledge it is the only one in the market right now that over the creatine and no2 together mixed....my friends have reported good gains and pumps with it..any comments

naturalguy · 09-07-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by odin52
try creatine hsc by ast I have good results every time I used it.

Ditto, great stuff!

PreMier · 09-18-2003, 07:34 PM

Alpha Lipoic acid.... It is a transport used in cell tech. If you buy plain creatine, and buy ALA capsules it is much, much cheaper. Plus it shows great results.

View Poll Results: What's the best Creatine Transport Mix
Sugar	34	18.68%
Just water	48	26.37%
BetaGen (EAS)	3	1.65%
Phosphagen HP (EAS)	13	7.14%
RiboForce (EAS)	1	0.55%
SyntheVol (EAS)	1	0.55%
Cell-Tech (Muscle Tech)	42	23.08%
Cre-X (PVL)	3	1.65%
Swole (Syntrax)	37	20.33%
Voters: 182. You may not vote on this poll

08-08-2002, 12:35 PM	#1
Corri Another Arnold wannabe Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 268	Best Creatine Transport System OK, there seem to be hundreds out there now and it's getting harder and harder to seperate solid prducts from mass marketed crap. I'm sure I missed a few, so post about a better one if it's not on the list, or throw some comments back at me on the ones up there. Thanks boys

08-29-2002, 10:41 AM	#8
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Actually, the, almost paradoxical, effect of protein + carbs is that it induces more insulin than the same amount of carbs alone. Logically, you'd expect the protein to slow the digestion and absorbtion and for insulin response to be lower, but such is not is the case. Personally, as far as i'm concerned, it's a factor of money. I don't buy overhyped and over priced supplements. 5-15g creatine + Xg dextrose + Yg malto + Zg protein = you're set, for a MUCH lower price. Dextrose is cheap as shit, and malto bought in bulk costs hardly anything. Protein is the only really 'proper' cost. Creatine monohydrate is cheap (relatively). No need to buy into all these shitey products for extra $$$ when they'll only make 1%* difference Made up statistic. But then again, 87.63%* of all statistics are made up on the spot. **Another made up statistic.
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08-30-2002, 08:59 AM	#9
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,499	Most people can make good gains on just plain creatine and grape juice, however, some people don't want the sugar. In this case a transport system can help out. Swole has been toned down and is a good one. V 12 is also a good choice. For most, throwing in 5 grams with a post workout shake of whey and carbs is just fine.
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11-03-2002, 02:05 AM	#12
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08-09-2002, 11:28 AM	#2
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	I liked the phosphagen if gave me decent gains. I have tryed celltech (i know that i preach about how crappy it is ) it gave me minamal muscle gains and a large amount of body fat. Only for hardgainer use only.

08-09-2002, 11:29 AM	#3
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	Please people dont vote all at once ur going to crash the site

08-09-2002, 11:41 AM	#4
Corri Another Arnold wannabe Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 268	lol.. There's been some talk in these forums about that Swole stuff. I was thinking about trying a bottle. As for the rest, they just seem SO expensive.. How can the Creatine transport make the Creatine cost twice as much? Or even more than that sometimes!

08-09-2002, 12:38 PM	#5
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	I would say just buy some creatine and some applejuice and have that with a protein shake and u would be fine. Swole from what everybody has been saying is garbage and not to be used.

08-09-2002, 01:39 PM	#6
Corri Another Arnold wannabe Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 268	I thought I heard the opposite about Swole. That it was TOO strong. So hard a spike it made gopro ill.. Didn't he call it "The next generation of Creatine Supplements" or something along those lines.. I'll keep checking on LAM's thread though. I hear he's made a guinea pig out of himself.

08-29-2002, 10:28 AM	#7
oldschoolboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 14	50g dextrose, 50g protein, 5g creatine. Studies have shown it works just as well as 100g dextrose and 5g creatine.

11-04-2002, 09:19 AM	#13
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11-21-2002, 08:24 AM	#15
pureplaya616 jacked black college kid Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 72	why does cell tech get such a bad rap, i havent used it but everyone i know seems split on it. I know that they are not the most trustworthy company
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07-13-2003, 02:28 AM	#17
odin52 Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: wa Posts: 234 Photos: 2	try creatine hsc by ast I have good results every time I used it.

07-14-2003, 06:03 PM	#19
OceanDude Well Read Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Posts: 1,853	I tend to agree with those that say there is a lot of hype in some of these products. Thus said, I have used SyntheVol™ 2 HP and its not too bad on the sugar - only 105 cals at 10g sugar and 10 gm creatine. I'd probably just as easily go with a pure pharmaceutical grade of creatine powder and add in with water and my post workout fast carb (e.g. ripe banana) and protein chaser. But when you have discount coupons and free merchandise incentives (for competitors in BFL) it’s more simple to just click “add to my cart” when on line ordering. OH! Please note that this poll , the way it is constructed is pre-biased to favor companies with single products such as Muscle Techs' CellTech product. EAS products will get washed out and fragmented simply by the fact that they have a large number of specialized product offerings that just so happen to have Creatine in them. I am sure this was an oversight.
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07-15-2003, 02:23 PM	#20
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07-16-2003, 10:34 PM	#21
timinator Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: U.K Posts: 3	in my opinion it is better to make your own delivery system. because then maybe there is too much or too little of an ingredient in the supplement. but if you mix up your own then you can put in the exact amounts, because you need different amounts for more/less training you do.

07-21-2003, 11:19 AM	#22
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07-21-2003, 11:34 AM	#23
ArduousMeister Tire fighter ...damn tire Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 265	Has anyone tried Krush4 by Allmax Nutrition? I have heard good things about it, never tried it. I have always just used the tried and true grape juice and creatine myself.
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08-24-2003, 12:38 AM	#24
hustler11 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 33	What good things have you heard abouti t? I tried a tub of it and dont think its worth the money at all. Its nothing innovating either, just creatine mono, dextrose, malto, and some other "complexes" they add like a nos complex and glutamine complex. Except the brochure and ingredients label doesnt indicate how much glutamine, and the nos complex isnt Arginine but some ginseng extract?
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08-27-2003, 04:23 PM	#25
tk... Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 118	i have heard good things about Trac by MHP, it contains nitirc oxide already mixed ,,dont assk me how much g. of no2, cuz truthfully i have no idea, but to my knowledge it is the only one in the market right now that over the creatine and no2 together mixed....my friends have reported good gains and pumps with it..any comments
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09-18-2003, 07:34 PM	#27
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,055 Photos: 2	Alpha Lipoic acid.... It is a transport used in cell tech. If you buy plain creatine, and buy ALA capsules it is much, much cheaper. Plus it shows great results.
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