Thread: Fubar

Thanks for fighting for your country.....I know its not much, only words,but well meant..

.......at 44% bf ,eq won't help much, and if your on trt...hcg, ain't real important..but to
have a plan and to stick to it is very important.....hit the gym daily..learn to have fun in the gym....200mgs a week is normal for trt....You got big traps...[from your pic]..
...patience bro...its going to take a while..maybe look into a 'ketosis diet' or 'the anabolic diet'....google it....
..keep coming back to this section[hrt..trt]....tell us whats going on.....

...............charley

Yeah thx for ur services !!!!!

The ketosis diet has been the 1000 calorie one with 80/20 fat/protien which came about from the recommendation of www.garytaubes.com who has extensively collaborated the last couple hundred years of nutrition studies. I only recent did that for a couple weeks and felt good on it.

I dropped 30-40 lbs doing atkins then it stopped and I hung at that weight for a year continuing the low carb until I quit smoking.
That is why I'm looking at doing a mass cycle because I've basically been 1-2000 calories below what is suppose to be maintenance for 3 years. Even at the 1,000 calories I'm barely hungry. The boxing is rated at 1200 calories an hour so while I was doing that according to the calorie in/out hypothesis I was at a 4000 deficit. The enegy and alertness from the AI seems to point to a mass cycle as well, boost the test above the resistance as well as blocking the fat from converting it over to estrogen. I don't care if the muscle growth can't be seen for awhile as long as its turning the furnace back on.

I think you need to look real deep into your issues to rule out any other underlying problems other than just low test. thyroid, adrenal, ect. I would recommend maybe seeing a trt specialist that can treat you for low t but also smart enough to possibly diagnose you for maybe some other issue that could be causing the low test.

Thanks for your service bro! I am glad we lobbie for this forum, seems like there are more and more people coming forward with TRT questions since the thread started. I am sure we can all learn and contribute.

Sounds like you found something you like in the MMA gym start there and you get more motivated when you start seeing results. That's great cardio, i can't handle that much cardio. Keep at it bro and keep us informed of your progress we all need some inspiration.

Oh and here is a pre vaccination photo, face blanked just because of the nature of this forum.

I do love the MMA gym and smacking things. It's cheaper than 4x a month with a trainer and the class is small enough its just like a 1 on 1 training every day.

There is something else going on, back in 2003-4 they did a MRI because the initial tests showed a 90% chance of a pituitary tumor. I didn't have one so I'm just a mutant without superpowers. They don't give the VA doc's a lot of creative options especially when GWS is concerned. The first 8 years after the war they wrote off the gulf syndrome as a mental disorder which kept guys like me from even saying anything because I didn't want to get labeled as a head case.

Can you afford to see a doc outside the VA?

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

Can you afford to see a doc outside the VA?

In a normal year I could and can again in a few months. Right at this moment it's the tightest it's been in years. I'm a general contractor and sitting on negative balances until some of the funds from long completed jobs come in.

A interesting article/study on testosterone's inverse relationship with BMI and type 2 diabetes.


Medical Alert for Gulf War Veterans and Agent Orange Veterans | Veterans Today

Originally Posted by charley

Thanks for fighting for your country.....I know its not much, only words,but well meant..

.......at 44% bf ,eq won't help much, and if your on trt...hcg, ain't real important..but to
have a plan and to stick to it is very important.....hit the gym daily..learn to have fun in the gym....200mgs a week is normal for trt....You got big traps...[from your pic]..
...patience bro...its going to take a while..maybe look into a 'ketosis diet' or 'the anabolic diet'....google it....
..keep coming back to this section[hrt..trt]....tell us whats going on.....

...............charley

Why do you say the EQ won't help much? My main interest in that is the collagen for the tendons and ligaments because I'm a little creaky already at 41 and don't want to damage anything. Although a HGH peptide might be better?

My main goals are dropping weight, regaining functional strength, some size and flexibility. and attempting to reset my body basically.

Yo BF....your right about "'EQ increasing collagen''............as much as 250%......

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

I think you need to look real deep into your issues to rule out any other underlying problems other than just low test. thyroid, adrenal, ect. I would recommend maybe seeing a trt specialist that can treat you for low t but also smart enough to possibly diagnose you for maybe some other issue that could be causing the low test.

I agree with bigmoe. Get your thyroid and adrenals dialed in, but also check your DHEA/DHEA-S. A good TRT/Endo can help you get this dialed in.

Best of luck, and thanks for your service.

Originally Posted by TonyMack

I agree with bigmoe. Get your thyroid and adrenals dialed in, but also check your DHEA/DHEA-S. A good TRT/Endo can help you get this dialed in.

Best of luck, and thanks for your service.

The thyroid seems ok, adrenals are a mess from the sleep apnea going so long undiagnosed. I stop breathing 60 times/hr and each time the adrenals had to give a little shot to keep me breathing. Now that I'm on the CPAP it's taken the strain off the adrenals, I just don't know that they will recover ever. I can literally drink 3 pots of coffee and still take a nap. And they affect hormones as well.

So it's really frustrating because so much overlaps. Did the apnea cause the hypogonadism, or the other way around? Did the weight cause a false hypogonadism state by the fat converting all the test to estrogen? On top of that is Inattentive ADD.

My endo is ok, he's just handcuffed a bit by the VA on what he can do or even talk about. I think once cash flow is better I'll talk to one on cash basis and just request the tests and results through the VA

That's why I'm hear, i need to rip off that excess fat and see what is behind the curtain. I won't ever be off sleeping with the CPAP mask because my apnea is neurological and obstructive. Not being dead tired all the time and possibly even reviving my own test production would be nice especially since I haven't had kids yet.

Originally Posted by BFHammer

Oh and here is a pre vaccination photo, face blanked just because of the nature of this forum.

I do love the MMA gym and smacking things. It's cheaper than 4x a month with a trainer and the class is small enough its just like a 1 on 1 training every day.

There is something else going on, back in 2003-4 they did a MRI because the initial tests showed a 90% chance of a pituitary tumor. I didn't have one so I'm just a mutant without superpowers. They don't give the VA doc's a lot of creative options especially when GWS is concerned. The first 8 years after the war they wrote off the gulf syndrome as a mental disorder which kept guys like me from even saying anything because I didn't want to get labeled as a head case.

I remember that debate lasted forever, that sucks bro. Keep knocking the piss out of things and in process maybe an avenue will open where you can get the medical attention you deserve.

I've decided I'm going with formeron for AI, HCG 500x2 week, GHRP-2, CJC 1295 plus hex to jack up HGH for fat loss and repair. Then if the VA won't boost my test I'll augment that after a few months of doing the above.

I'm going to do the Warrior/Paleo diet I'm just trying to figure out if I should jack up eating for a couple weeks to get my metabolism fired up again after being at 1-2k calories for a few years.

Originally Posted by BFHammer

I've decided I'm going with formeron for AI, HCG 500x2 week, GHRP-2, CJC 1295 plus hex to jack up HGH for fat loss and repair. Then if the VA won't boost my test I'll augment that after a few months of doing the above.

I'm going to do the Warrior/Paleo diet I'm just trying to figure out if I should jack up eating for a couple weeks to get my metabolism fired up again after being at 1-2k calories for a few years.

The ghrp-2/cjc 1295 combo is really popular, that's probably your best bet as far as gh related chems go. Since you're on TRT anyway I might think of adding 100-ish mg of deca or 1-200mg EQ in with your normal test dosage, will help with collagen production especially with the peptides in there. I would just stick with a solid lifting routine for a while and cardio 3x a week or so. Now that you're test levels are in check (and with the other things you're running) you will drop some fat and gain some muscle at first no matter what. Once you level out a bit and see where you're at then decide what kind of changes you need to make to your diet. I don't think you should go any lower than where you're at (if you're actually eating around a legit 1800cals?) to try and lose weight. You'll be putting those calories to better use now that your hormones are in better shape and that seems damn low anyway. Best of luck to you though bro, keep us updated on your situation and I'm sure the dudes here can sort you out. Thanks also for your service and I hope things look up for you