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    Harvard Professor ordeal

    I might have been mistaken but I haven't seen anything posted in here in regards to the news going on involving the nut job harvard professor who disrespected police and now has our President reverend Albama backing his racial crap up! I'm outraged at the president and the city of cambridge. This is the reason why racism still exists in the country, because without it what other crap could be made up to have people feeling bad for who was once a minority in this country. MR PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE OFFENDED ME TOO MANY TIMES!!! I WANT RETRIBUTION NOW!

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    If someone got arrested for breaking into their own home when they were locked out even after showing his ID as proof that he lived there, there is an injustice.

    ( He came here to Emory and I met the guy and he is so meek and nerdy, can't see how he could be aggressive.)

    If he did not cooperate with the police then the police were justified in doing what they did.

    Either way, the details will need to be hashed out and scrutinized later.

    ( For the record when I and my black partner ( physician who was an ex football player) were trying to find a parking space at Emory to attend a medical conferance the University cops pulled me over and asked if I was OK and was the man sitting in my car bothering or threatening me in any way. I told them I don't usually let men who are harassing me in anyway be a passenger in my car...duh....)
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    What I believe happened, based solely on my gut...

    Dude was profiled by whomever called the police, not the officer. The officer shows up, asks for ID, Gates causes an unnecessary stink and refuses, officer threatens to arrest him, he resists and ends up showing the ID, and the officer gives him a ticket for the skirmish.

    My personal thoughts, Gates caused the primary problem and caused the problem, but the police officer has the duty to act professionally and not get in to battle of measure my cock. This cop is obviously not a racist, apparently he gave some black basketball dude CPR at Brandeis a few years back, not something a racist is going to do.

    Now, who should apologize? Both of them or neither of them. IMO, Gates was being an asshole, and unfortunately, since he is a rich asshole, he can raise a stink. This has nothing to do with race as far as the officer goes, and Gates calling racial prejudice is an insult to actual racial prejudice that I am sure goes on every single day. Actually, I had never known who this Gates dude was before this, and I will only think of him with the likes of the Al Sharptons of the world from now on, fuck him.

    But I reserve the right to change my mind upon further evidence.
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    Yeah, I don't think his treatment was fair at all either. My gosh, The police knocked on the door, he answered, invited them in they could see his pictures hanging in the foyer. By nature, burglers don't usually respond to interruptions in this fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAddict View Post
    Yeah, I don't think his treatment was fair at all either. My gosh, The police knocked on the door, he answered, invited them in they could see his pictures hanging in the foyer. By nature, burglers don't usually respond to interruptions in this fashion.
    thats not what happened, they found him sitting outside and he WAS being beligerent. The fact that he didnt initially want to show the police identification is enough proof. But what I'm trying to emphasizing is that regardless of the story at this point in the game, the president has no business making any sort of comments to the nature of which he did when we don't know the exact story yet. People are just waiting for crap like this so they can jump on the old racism card.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Gates_Arrest.pdf

    I know I know, foxnews blah blah blah, but its just an arrrest report, should shed some light, at least from the cops perspective.

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    Sounds like most of you in here are profiling, you have no proof of what happened and yet you are siding with your race of preference.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Sounds like most of you in here are profiling, you have no proof of what happened and yet you are siding with your race of preference.....
    No way, I hate honkeys, and am certainly not a fan of the Poe-lice.

    Maybe Gates isn't getting laid enough, certain could explain the anger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Sounds like most of you in here are profiling, you have no proof of what happened and yet you are siding with your race of preference.....
    Isn't there a bit of irony in you accuse me, a white man, of profiling. If I were black would you have accused me of the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    thats not what happened, they found him sitting outside and he WAS being beligerent. The fact that he didnt initially want to show the police identification is enough proof. But what I'm trying to emphasizing is that regardless of the story at this point in the game, the president has no business making any sort of comments to the nature of which he did when we don't know the exact story yet. People are just waiting for crap like this so they can jump on the old racism card.
    From the story I heard,' actually it was on a pretty reputable radio station Kgo, in case anyone asks'. that's exactly what happened. But I wasn't there, so. Then he was escorted outside. That's when he threw the fit. Phuquina, I'd be pissed off too! But I couldn't play the race card so, I'll refrain from that topic.

    Agree with the whole President thing though. Then again, I am not a black man in this country, so I can't empathise with his emotions upon hearing about this. Especially, if it was the first he had heard about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAddict View Post
    From the story I heard,' actually it was on a pretty reputable radio station Kgo, in case anyone asks'. that's exactly what happened. But I wasn't there, so. Then he was escorted outside. That's when he threw the fit. Phuquina, I'd be pissed off too! But I couldn't play the race card so, I'll refrain from that topic.

    Agree with the whole President thing though. Then again, I am not a black man in this country, so I can't empathise with his emotions upon hearing about this. Especially, if it was the first he had heard about it.
    Why does it quote manic, it was posted by mcguin?
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    Officer says he'll 'never apologize' for Harvard professor arrest

    (CNN) -- A Cambridge, Massachusetts, police officer said Thursday he will "never apologize" about how he handled the arrest of prominent black Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.
    Sgt. Jim Crowley said he has nothing to apologize for in regards to the arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr.

    Sgt. Jim Crowley said he has nothing to apologize for in regards to the arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr.

    "That apology will never come from me as Jim Crowley, it won't come from me as sergeant in the Cambridge Police Department," Sgt. James Crowley told Boston radio station WEEI. "Whatever anybody else chooses to do in the name of the city of Cambridge or the Cambridge Police Department which are beyond my control, I don't worry about that. I know what I did was right. I have nothing to apologize for."

    Crowley also said he was exercising caution and is clearly not a racist based on his previous actions.

    Those actions, Crowley told the Boston Herald, include giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to former Boston Celtics star Reggie Lewis, who suffered a fatal heart attack in 1993 at Brandeis University when Crowley was a campus cop.

    "I wasn't working on Reggie Lewis the basketball star. I wasn't working on a black man," Crowley told the Boston Herald. "I was working on another human being."

    Gates was arrested last week at his home after a confrontation with Crowley. Cambridge authorities on Tuesday dropped disorderly conduct charges against Gates.

    Crowley also told WEEI that when he asked Gates to come out of his home, he thought a break-in had occurred or was still happening.

    "I didn't know who [Gates] was. I was by myself. I was the only police officer standing there, and I got a report of people breaking into a house," Crowley told WEEI. "That was for my safety first and foremost. I have to go home at night, I have three beautiful children and a wife who depend on me. So I had no other motive than to ensure my safety."

    Responding to a reporter's question on Gates' arrest, President Obama said Wednesday night that the Cambridge police "acted stupidly."

    Obama defended Gates while admitting that he may be "a little biased" because the professor is his friend.

    "But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

    The incident shows "how race remains a factor in this society," Obama said.
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    Crowley told WEEI that he was "disappointed" that Obama interjected himself into the situation.

    "He's the president of the United States, and I support the president to a point," Crowley told WEEI. "I think it's disappointing that he waded into what should be a local issue and something that is -- really that plays out here. As he himself had said at the beginning of that press conference, he didn't know all the facts. He certainly doesn't based on those comments. I just think it was very disappointing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcguin View Post
    thats not what happened, they found him sitting outside and he WAS being beligerent. The fact that he didnt initially want to show the police identification is enough proof. But what I'm trying to emphasizing is that regardless of the story at this point in the game, the president has no business making any sort of comments to the nature of which he did when we don't know the exact story yet. People are just waiting for crap like this so they can jump on the old racism card.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    Why does it quote manic, it was posted by mcguin?
    Oh shit! I did that. Coulda swore I read manic so I changed it to manic.

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    the part that is still unclear for me is once the cop knew the guy was not breaking into the house, he showed him his ID, the cop then knew he lived there, why did he arrest him?





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    It should have went down like this:

    Officer asks for ID. Homeowner gives ID. Then politely ask the officer to leave his property.

    Unfortunately, the homeowner had a chip on his shoulder. He then played the race card with that chip. Nothing good will come of that with an officer who's trying to do his job. Especially when the call came from another citizen in the area.

    Now, had the officer initiated the contact on his own I could see how profiling could be an issue.

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