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    Obama: Climate Change May Lead to 'Irreversible Catastrophe'
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    US President Barack Obama speaks during Summit on Climate Change at United Nations in New York, 22 Sep 2009
    US President Barack Obama speaks during Summit on Climate Change at United Nations in New York, 22 Sep 2009
    U.S. President Barack Obama says inaction on climate change could leave future generations with an "irreversible catastrophe."

    Mr. Obama called on global leaders Tuesday to move "boldly, swiftly, and together" to combat the problem.

    Mr. Obama addressed world leaders gathered in New York City for a climate change summit called by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. Mr. Ban opened the meeting by saying it would be "morally inexcusable" not to act.

    In his address, President Obama said the security and stability of each nation and all peoples are in jeopardy and that time is running out to reverse the effects of climate change. But Mr. Obama said the current trend is reversible.

    More than 90 heads of state are attending the meeting. Officials hope to make progress toward a global climate treaty that governments plan to finalize during a December meeting in Denmark.

    Determined to act

    United Nations Secretary Ban Ki-moon(R)addresses United Nations Climate Change Summit, 22 Sep 2009
    United Nations Secretary Ban Ki-moon(R)addresses United Nations Climate Change Summit, 22 Sep 2009
    President Obama said his administration understands the "gravity of the climate threat" and is "determined to act" - even though he said the United States was slow to recognize and respond to the danger of global warming.

    Mr. Obama said his administration, in its first eight months, has already taken a range of steps to cut energy waste and reduce greenhouse gas pollution.

    He said the most important of those steps was an energy and climate bill the House of Representatives passed in June. The president said that bill will finally make clean energy profitable for American businesses and dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    President Obama said the U.S. is also making its largest-ever investment in renewable energy projects and has proposed the first national policy aimed at increasing fuel economy and reducing pollution for all new cars and trucks.

    President Obama said the U.S. has put climate at the top of the diplomatic agenda with countries across regions, from China and India to Brazil and Mexico.

    No illusions

    Mr. Obama said "there should be no illusions" about how difficult it will be for world leaders to reach a climate change agreement during the Copenhagen meeting in December.

    He said nations are concerned about reviving their economies amid a global recession. But Mr. Obama said difficulty is no excuse for inaction.

    President Obama acknowledged that developed nations had caused much of the damage to the global climate, and said they also have the responsibility to lead the global fight against it.

    He said the United States will continue investing in renewable energy, promoting greater efficiency, and slashing emissions.

    The U.S. leader noted that rapidly-growing developing nations must do their part as well.

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    So what temperature is the earth supposed to be? Seeing as in the earths history long before the modern industrial revolution temperatures have been both much hotter and much colder than the earth is currently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    So what temperature is the earth supposed to be? Seeing as in the earths history long before the modern industrial revolution temperatures have been both much hotter and much colder than the earth is currently?
    How many of those drastic changes were from enormous volcanic eruptions, giant meteors, etc? Anytime there has been a huge plume of shit thrown into the sky there has been extreme changes to our climate. Our impact may not be as sudden but everyday we slowly build on the amount of shit in the atmosphere, the less impact we have the more time we will have to adapt to cyclical climatic changes......
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    How many of those drastic changes were from enormous volcanic eruptions, giant meteors, etc? Anytime there has been a huge plume of shit thrown into the sky there has been extreme changes to our climate. Our impact may not be as sudden but everyday we slowly build on the amount of shit in the atmosphere, the less impact we have the more time we will have to adapt to cyclical climatic changes......
    cyclical climatic changes take quite a long time, and im not concerned with our ability to adapt to the environment. Humans live all over the damn world in every habitat we have available to us. the adaption has already taken place.
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    We need energy reform not because of human activity warming our climate (which is still a theory contesting by a substantial portion of the scientific community) but for the reason of national security and long term economic development.


    Counter argument on human activity pushing global warming:
    Global Warming or Global Governance? - Sprword.com - Spread the Word

    The real nuts and bolts of the video are in between 7:00 to 9:00. Most people don't differentiate b/t correlation and causality.


    This is part of the reason why we should be pushing for non fossil fuel energy sources (particularly oil and natural gas)
    http://www.trumanproject.org/files/b...e_BG_FINAL.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    cyclical climatic changes take quite a long time, and im not concerned with our ability to adapt to the environment. Humans live all over the damn world in every habitat we have available to us. the adaption has already taken place.
    Yes, cyclical means it's on schedule, it's doesn't need our nor any other catalyst look at the Younger Dryas when a lake dumped so much fresh water into the Atlantic and cold glacial melt from North America caused a small Ice Age, these things had been proceeded by a spell of global warming. Drastic change like this in a little more than a decade where Europe is turned into Siberia, something like that would cause major problems in the world. Then we come to find 50 years later having cut our pollution by 50 % may have bought us 30 years to adapt? I would rather be proactive than just chalk shit up to the way things are.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Yes, cyclical means it's on schedule, it's doesn't need our nor any other catalyst look at the Younger Dryas when a lake dumped so much fresh water into the Atlantic and cold glacial melt from North America caused a small Ice Age, these things had been proceeded by a spell of global warming. Drastic change like this in a little more than a decade where Europe is turned into Siberia, something like that would cause major problems in the world. Then we come to find 50 years later having cut our pollution by 50 % may have bought us 30 years to adapt? I would rather be proactive than just chalk shit up to the way things are.....
    you're arguing with someone that still thinks GWB was a good president, nuff said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    you're arguing with someone that still thinks GWB was a good president, nuff said.
    this isn't an argument and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but go on drinking the obama koolaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Yes, cyclical means it's on schedule, it's doesn't need our nor any other catalyst look at the Younger Dryas when a lake dumped so much fresh water into the Atlantic and cold glacial melt from North America caused a small Ice Age, these things had been proceeded by a spell of global warming. Drastic change like this in a little more than a decade where Europe is turned into Siberia, something like that would cause major problems in the world. Then we come to find 50 years later having cut our pollution by 50 % may have bought us 30 years to adapt? I would rather be proactive than just chalk shit up to the way things are.....
    Hey, when we get an ice age i get more fresh pow days snowboarding. I'm going back to using CFC's.
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