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    The Obama administration on Thursday failed in its attempt to manipulate other news networks into isolating and excluding Fox News, as Republicans on Capitol Hill stepped up their criticism of the hardball tactics employed by the White House.

    The Obama administration on Thursday tried to make "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg available for interviews to every member of the White House pool except Fox News. The pool is the five-network rotation that for decades has shared the costs and duties of daily coverage of the presidency.

    But the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks consulted and decided that none of their reporters would interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included.

    The administration relented, making Feinberg available for all five pool members and Bloomberg TV.

    The pushback came after White House senior adviser David Axelrod told ABC News' "This Week" on Sunday that Fox News is not a real news organization and other news networks "ought not to treat them that way."

    Media analysts cheered the decision to boycott the Feinberg interview unless Fox News was included, saying the administration's gambit was taking its feud with Fox News too far. President Obama has already declined to go on "Fox News Sunday," even while appearing on the other Sunday shows.

    "I'm really cheered by the other members saying "No, if Fox can't be part of it, we won't be part of it,'" said Baltimore Sun TV critic David Zurawik, calling the move to limit Feinberg's availability "outrageous."

    "What it's really about to me is the Executive Branch of the government trying to tell the press how it should behave. I mean, this democracy -- we know this -- only works with a free and unfettered press to provide information," he said.

    Fox News legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr. said the administration was potentially in violation of the Constitution with its attempt to restrict access to the "eyes and ears" of the country.

    "What was averted was a very serious constitutional violation by the White House," Johnson said. "There cannot be selective and arbitrary access to the White House based on some subjective determination."

    Several top White House advisers have appeared on other news channels to criticize Fox News' coverage of the administration, dismiss the network as the mouthpiece of the Republican Party and urge other news organizations not to treat Fox News as a legitimate news network.

    On Wednesday, Obama, speaking publicly for the first time about his administration's portrayal of Fox News as illegitimate, said he's not "losing sleep" over the controversy.

    "I think that what our advisers simply said is, is that we are going to take media as it comes," Obama said when asked about his advisers targeting the network openly. "And if media is operating, basically, as a talk radio format, then that's one thing. And if it's operating as a news outlet, then that's another. But it's not something I'm losing a lot of sleep over."

    Obama's comments also came after he met Monday with political commentators Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow of MSNBC; Eugene Robinson and E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post; Ron Brownstein of the National Journal; John Dickerson of Slate; Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd and Bob Herbert of the New York Times; Jerry Seib of the Wall Street Journal, Gloria Borger of CNN and U.S. News and World Report, and Gwen Ifill of PBS.

    House Republican leaders rushed to the defense of conservative commentators Thursday after the president's comments.

    Rep. Mike Pence, chairman of the House Republican Conference, said conservative commentators speak more for Americans than the national media outlets that have targeted them for criticism.

    "Goaded on by a White House increasingly intolerant of criticism, lately the national media has taken aim at conservative commentators in radio and television," the Indiana Republican said on the House floor. "Suggesting that they only speak for a small group of activists and even suggesting in one report today that Republicans in Washington are 'worried about their electoral effect.' Well, that's hogwash."

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    This is absolutely pathetic. I can't wait to hear the "free speech" liberals defend this bullshit.

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    Not so much change as politics as usual
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    politics as usual, but still a black mark on obama. this guy is letting his administration publicly fight with a news organization. thats childish and pathetic. say what you want about the media as a whole. I think that all news organizations and directors are pushing an agenda, but when you single out one news organization because it doesn't share your views then as a political figure you should be above that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    politics as usual, but still a black mark on obama. this guy is letting his administration publicly fight with a news organization. thats childish and pathetic. say what you want about the media as a whole. I think that all news organizations and directors are pushing an agenda, but when you single out one news organization because it doesn't share your views then as a political figure you should be above that.
    Public being the operative word. I am sure this has gone in the other direction one or 2 times over the previous 8 years, it's just Obama seems to play everything out in the media. I think this is a major mistake, if you need any evidence of this, look no further than the rest of the media backing Fox News. As was the case over the last 2 terms, I would just prefer the president to do his job, and not have to see him or one of his lackies every day on the news. I really think it's time we abandon the 2 party system, the parties are black and white, while 95% of us are shades of grey. If this weren't the case, Obama wouldn't be blackballing Fox. A liberal president trying to muzzle a news organization, who'da thunk it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    Public being the operative word. I am sure this has gone in the other direction one or 2 times over the previous 8 years, it's just Obama seems to play everything out in the media. I think this is a major mistake, if you need any evidence of this, look no further than the rest of the media backing Fox News. As was the case over the last 2 terms, I would just prefer the president to do his job, and not have to see him or one of his lackies every day on the news. I really think it's time we abandon the 2 party system, the parties are black and white, while 95% of us are shades of grey. If this weren't the case, Obama wouldn't be blackballing Fox. A liberal president trying to muzzle a news organization, who'da thunk it?
    i agree. the problem is it's public. I have no problem with a guy behind the scenes not liking those who disagree with him. I actually expect that. Of course the other news organizations have to fight this. what if they are next. best way to make enemies friends is give them a common enemy. behind the scenes is fine. i don't care, but out in public is just stupid on obama's part.
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    That god damn liberal media......
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    That god damn liberal media......
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    I agree its a dum dum move politically...but its business as usual. How often did Bush go on MSNBC?

    In reality I could care less though...they (TV news outlets) are all media whores and hardly ever report objectively, except PBS.

    I get most of my news from ThomsonReuters and BBC

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    I agree its a dum dum move politically...but its business as usual. How often did Bush go on MSNBC?

    In reality I could care less though...they (TV news outlets) are all media whores and hardly ever report objectively, except PBS.

    I get most of my news from ThomsonReuters and BBC
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    I get my news from The Daily Show and The Colbert Report that's the only way to go brotha'
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    Daily show is the best. Its also sad when REAL news shows get rated lower than a comedy show, ABOUT REPORTING NEWS.

    Colbert and stewart FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
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    The problem with FOX news is not Fox's political positions.

    It's how these positions are expressed.

    Too much fallacial reasoning during the night-time Op-Ed shows.

    Fox only gets 3.0 to 3.1 million viewers. Number #1 in the ratings? Yes.

    Do they affect the national publich policy? No.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post
    The problem with FOX news is not Fox's political positions.

    It's how these positions are expressed.

    Too much fallacial reasoning during the night-time Op-Ed shows.

    Fox only gets 3.0 to 3.1 million viewers. Number #1 in the ratings? Yes.

    Do they affect the national publich policy? No.


    It's not the message - it's how the message is presented.
    that exact same problem is leveled at all news outlets now a days. every single one is out to push their particular agenda. it just so happens that fox is the one agenda that goes against the current president at the moment.

    the current problem is made worse when the white house decides to have an open feud with this news outlet. when your job is to run the country you can't waste energy picking a fight with a news organization that disagrees with you.

    obama needs to spend less time with his head in public opinion polls and more time leading. you can't tell the wind where and when to blow, and you can't lead this country by doing the same thing
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