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    Post 12 Dead, 31 Wounded in Shootings at Fort Hood in Texas

    12 Dead, 31 Wounded in Shootings at Fort Hood in Texas

    A shooting at Fort Hood military post in Texas killed 11, wounded as many as 31, and left the gunman dead, the Army said.

    The shooter was killed and two other suspects were in custody, Lt. General Bob Cone said. All three were U.S. soldiers.

    Cone said witnesses reported seeing more than one shooter.

    The shooting took place 1:30 p.m Thursday at the post's Soldier Readiness Center where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening.

    "We have a terrible, tragic situation here," said Cone. "Soldiers, family members and the civilians that work here are absolutely devastated."

    Cone said the injuries "vary significantly."

    A motive wasn't immediately known.

    The victims were a mix of civilian and military, officials said.

    The FBI ruled out terrorism.

    Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said the shooting was a terrible tragedy for all of the military families affected.

    The base and area schools were on lockdown after the mass shooting, and all those on the Army post were asked to gather for a head count.





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    I hate to say it but I think we are goign to have to start profiling people with Muslim names. I realize that all followers of islam are not violent, fact is; it is a very peacefull religion. However the main threat to our society seems to come from people of middle eastern desent. Our military, and all public transportation should in fact use profiling techniques to identify potential threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog88 View Post
    I hate to say it but I think we are goign to have to start profiling people with Muslim names. I realize that all followers of islam are not violent, fact is; it is a very peacefull religion. However the main threat to our society seems to come from people of middle eastern desent. Our military, and all public transportation should in fact use profiling techniques to identify potential threats.
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    The media is going fill about 1 1/2 weeks of time gap on this one.

    I can see it now.

    "Analysis." --> Why?

    Shrinks will be on TV probing this man's inner thoughts and motivations.

    Working as a Trauma specialist at Walter Reed for 6 years, yes, this guy may have issues.

    Eyewitnesses will be reporting what they saw and heard.

    Larry King will have survivors and shrinks on his show for 4 straight days.

    303 million people in the US, and lots of guns, these horrible things happen. Tragedy, yes.

    But more die in car accidents.

    Another media sensational story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post
    But more die in car accidents.
    You had a post that made sense until you said this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpro2 View Post
    You had a post that made sense until you said this.
    It's not the same, I agree.

    Murder is not an accident.

    Accidents are not murders.


    And yes, this is a horrible tragedy, not only for those killed of course but for those injured (some permanently disabled I'm sure) and their families.

    My point is that the media sensationalized this sick, horrible, crime.

    Pictures of crying family members is tasteless.

    And then the post analysis follow-ups to get ratings.


    Sorry for the rant. I stopped watching TV about 3-4 years ago. No TV. 0% of the time (except when I visit family for 2 weeks in the Summer in the US), and I only watch about 20 minutes per day, b/c it's so bad.

    But I do read the news online.
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    there are a lot of mentally ill people in the psychiatric field, muslim or not.

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    It has to be hard being surrounded by the simple minded galoots like the many I knew in the Navy talking shit about Muslims/Arabs all the time. In a way the Military can feel like prison when you have your little racial and cultural cliques, I knew skinheads, gang bangers, and others in the Navy talking shit all the time.... Of course going on a shooting rampage isn't an option, but resigning is. He could have easily gotten out if he'd given the reason that he couldn't deal with the constant harassment for being muslim
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    Such a tragedy!

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    To think the guy was a shrink..
    One thing that I find pretty stupid, if he was against the war then why would you join the military?

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    To think the guy was a shrink..
    One thing that I find pretty stupid, if he was against the war then why would you join the military?

    right! Guess he thought the free med school pass, wouldn't oblige him to serve...what dummy. That guy committed mass murder, in TX, on a military base. He is going to get the death penalty

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    I hope he gets hanged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    I hope he gets hanged.
    Me, too.

    The only downside is the prick may consider himself a "martyr" and get the 72 virgings.
    It's an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt We've stopped spending money that we don't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    It has to be hard being surrounded by the simple minded galoots like the many I knew in the Navy talking shit about Muslims/Arabs all the time. In a way the Military can feel like prison when you have your little racial and cultural cliques, I knew skinheads, gang bangers, and others in the Navy talking shit all the time.... Of course going on a shooting rampage isn't an option, but resigning is. He could have easily gotten out if he'd given the reason that he couldn't deal with the constant harassment for being muslim
    This just happened and you are willing to make excuses for him!? "It must have been hard.." fuck that, life is hard. He could have resigned to escape the constant harrassment? What Navy were you in? Assuming that there was harrassment in the first place, in the military that I remember, an officer would have you by the balls if you harrassed him.

    I'm sure that there is a LOT of smack talk going on about muslims/arabic people in the military. These guys get shot at on a daily basis by extremist muslims, I'm sure that they may have some racial bias issues when they get back.

    The lack of accountability in shit like this is amazing. The guy didn't even have combat stress to pin any of this on, he was just a whiney troublemaker that grabbed a gun to shoot at men and women that were more heroic than he could ever be.

    I normally agree pretty much with the things you say here Manic, but I can't get behind that at all.

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    Little wing is right, this is a case of a sick mentally disturbed individual, ,muslim or not.

    I'm from Malaysia and people in this country thinks muslims have a monopoly on terrorism because western media is clear about associating any violent act with the person's muslim religion and not other religions. When christian serbian terrorist are bombing bosnian muslim mosques and raping and killing muslim bosnians en masse, it's called "ethnic cleansing", not christian terrorism. When Japanese terrorists were gassing people in the subways, the western media does not associate them with buddism. When christian terrorists were doing their thing en masse in Indonesia and Malaysia in 2007, not a word mentioned in our western media, when christian terrorists of the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) continue its sickening crusade in India, once again, no media scrutiny.

    Just pointing out that your valued western media is not without some bias.

    This is a case that is horrifying in two ways, as a physician, this man violated a very sacred hypocratic oath, and second the muslims that serve in our military who love and believe in fighting for this country will be thrust in harms way. My neighbor next door is a muslim and has two kids, one daughter and one son in the military. His daughter is a plane mechanic for the airforce and his son serves in the army, both would put their lives down for what this country stands for.
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