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    Question Is BETA-ALANINE Safe?

    Is BETA-ALANINE Safe?
    by Mark Tallon

    Despite the volume of research currently carried out on beta-alanine (a selection including my own papers) in relation to exercise based performance enhancement, one issues that still concerns me is safety!

    To date we have data showing that Beta-alanine when given for up to 12 weeks does not cause and measured change in those clinical blood markers widely used to show safety. However, 12 weeks is relatively short duration, so what could be a danger from long term use?

    Well there are a few studies that may provide some insight!


    What dangers: Is a history of use enough?

    One thing I often heard is ‘x nutrient has been consumed for years in our general diet and at a dose found in dietary supplements‘, as such it must be safe. However, this generalization is ultimately flawed as sodium and saturated fats are also abundant in our diets and we know the consequences in relation to cardiovascular disease when taken in excess. The take home is natural is not always synonymous with healthy.

    Similarly, beta-alanine is abundant in meat sources and especially those animals (meat source) exposed to prolonged periods of hypoxia (sprinters or diving mammals).Taking the premise that we could get beta-alanine from food in a quantity to match the commonly recommended supplement dose (3.2g/d) would mean we need to consumer 400g of whale beef or 600g of turkey. Is that really likely? If it is not, have our bodies really adapted to getting an isolated nutrient such as beta-alanine in that type of quantity?
    So what could be the dangers of consuming high does beta-alanine?

    Well studies by Allo et al, Harada et al. and Dawson et al, all show that beta-alanine supplementation can deplete cardiac taurine levels. Taurine is very much linked to efficient contractile function (via calcium ion homeostasis) of both skeletal muscle and cardiac muscle and significant depletion could impair heart function.

    The problem with these studies is that they use a dose around 25x that used in human studies and over short period of time (circa 5 days). However, although 25x higher in dose, human studies provide a supplementation period which is about 17x longer. As such over a 9 month period we would maybe take in as much beta-alanine as in the rodent trials. What would be the effect of this on humans and health?

    At present we don’t know! We do know that in short term (<12 weeks ) although we see increased plasma taurine levels (suggestive of inhibition of taurine uptake) there is no effect on skeletal muscle taurine levels or in the urine (Harris et al. 2006).

    The problem here is the heart’s taurine content is relatively low in relation to the total skeletal muscle pool. As such if you where loosing taurine from the heart during high dose beta-alanine supplementation it would likely not be detectable (plasma an urinary taurine levels are highly variable, which would mask small but significant losses of taurine).


    Cycle your Beta-alanine!

    The answer in overcoming any potential issues with taurine depletion is 2 fold and can be related to some recent work. In a trial from Belgium (Baguet et al. 2009) researches have shown for the first time that following 6 weeks of beta-alanine supplementation the resulting increase in muscle carnosine (~30%) reverts to baseline levels within 3 week following cessation of supplementation. This shows us that we can de-load and load relatively quickly with beta-alanine supplements. During the de-loading period we could then supplement with taurine which in many animal studies has been shown to effectively increase muscle taurine concentrations. This would help replace any lost muscle/cardiac taurine, which may have occurred during beta-alanine supplementation. Unfortunately, in humans the research (Galloway et al. 2008) demonstrates that taurine supplementation is not effective in increasing muscle taurine (<2g).

    Given meat contains both beta-alanine and taurine is a safe guess that we can take both nutrients at the same time so potentially taurine when given in a slow release (meat) form will increase muscle taurine levels (we don’t know for sure). Alternatively, higher doses of taurine (>1.5-2g/d) maybe required. My advice 3g/d for 1-4 weeks should do the trick (not evidence but based of my own biopsy data when a PhD student when this type of does seemed to tripled my muscle taurine stores).
    On a final note…


    Beta-alanine ethyl ester!

    As always everyone is looking for the next best thing and like creatine beta-alanine is well absorbed into the muscle, however we are already seeing the appearance of beta-alanine ethyl ester. A word of caution…
    In 2001 a rodent study (Keria et al) demonstrated that when beta-alanine and especially alcohol (ethyl ester) co-administered with beta-alanine, significantly increased homocysteine and cysteine excretion into urine throughout the 28-day period of ethanol administration. The study pointed to hepatic dysfunction, not a great health effect.

    So until we know more about these new forms of beta-alanine lets get our heads round the long term use issues of beta-alanine….

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    Wow, it never really crossed my mind that beta-alanine would be unsafe in any way. Primarily because it does not need to be used consecutively to be effective. If you work out three days per week for example, consuming 5,000mg of beta-alanine 45 minutes pre-workout should be sufficient. I didn't think such low doses would really be unsafe in any way, but it is a rather potent supplement.

    Will IronMagLabs be producing a beta-alanine supplement?

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    I thought you needed consistent use so it could convert to carnosine. So taking it only preworkout wouldn't do a thing as it wouldn't have time to convert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emitecaps View Post
    I thought you needed consistent use so it could convert to carnosine. So taking it only preworkout wouldn't do a thing as it wouldn't have time to convert.
    Not sure what the conversion does. I've never used it to gain mass. I always used it for increased pumps at the gym and I always experienced that although it may have been psychological at the onset of the tingling sensation it delivers. Are you saying that it needs to be used cumulatively to work whatsoever, even for pumps?

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    It does work as pwo supplement that can be used on training days only; however to get the full benefit most of the info I've read says take it continuously for 3 mos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 236 View Post
    It does work as pwo supplement that can be used on training days only; however to get the full benefit most of the info I've read says take it continuously for 3 mos.
    Interesting. Maybe I will run a full cycle of it at a later date. I hope Robert comes out with a beta-alanine product for IronMagLabs!

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    Yea that would be great.

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    I think it is safe, but I'm not impressed by the research. I don't think it has been clearly proven to help build muscle. That's just my opinion.

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    I'm not sure it builds muscle, but it does help with energy and recovery between sets.I seem to be able to lift with a bit more intensity whe I use a beta alanine product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 236 View Post
    It does work as pwo supplement that can be used on training days only; however to get the full benefit most of the info I've read says take it continuously for 3 mos.
    So it converts to intramuscular carnosine in the 30-45 minutes when taken pre then? I haven't seen a conversion rate much less a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emitecaps View Post
    So it converts to intramuscular carnosine in the 30-45 minutes when taken pre then? I haven't seen a conversion rate much less a time.
    I haven't seen any rates or times either. I am simply giving an account of the effects it has on me. I can tell the difference in one dose as far as energy and stamina goes.

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