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    I like this advice. Seems like every advice I got here is personal and only something that works for them, but might not work for others. Your first post regarding cycle is interesting but it might not work for me as it has worked for you. Regarding PCT, I'm not sure it should even be called that anymore since you're using an AI during the cycle (not post cycle).

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    That is your decision to make. My first cycle was very aggressive. I was 20 years old and I have no regrets. I loved every minute of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKY View Post
    I like this advice. Seems like every advice I got here is personal and only something that works for them, but might not work for others. Your first post regarding cycle is interesting but it might not work for me as it has worked for you. Regarding PCT, I'm not sure it should even be called that anymore since you're using an AI during the cycle (not post cycle).
    Huh? He is using an A/I during his PCT and during the cycle.

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    it should be called OCPCT (on cycle, post cycle therapy). Or who can come up with a better term? Great post by him though, first time I've heard of using an AI while on cycle, I hope this does not interfere with the full benefits (and risks) of the FULL testosterone cycle. I would guess it would since the AI would be blocking something? Is gynecomastia not reversible? Why not wait til the end of a cycle to use an AI?

    Regarding hypogonadism, the use of an Armidex for PCT is helpful along with gynecomastia and water retention issues, so I don't get Heavy Iron's high dose of HCG at all when if using an Armidex it would only be 0.50 to 1 mg daily, correct? To each his own I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Huh? He is using an A/I during his PCT and during the cycle.
    Last edited by BUCKY; 12-27-2011 at 04:07 AM.

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    dude ur not reading it right. AI are to stop conversion of estrogen which leads to the bad side effects and gyno. if u dont take AI during a test cycle u will end up looking like a bloated, pimply asshole with bitchtits. PCT is to restore natural test levels u douche. AI has nothing to do with helping natural test production, thats what clomid and hcg are for. if u dont do pct then u will lose all ur gains from aas and fuck up ur nuts.

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    Hey guys im looking for the best "natural"pct on the market i mean i can buy, lets say my soucre has proved rubbish and is no no longer online.
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    thanks heavy

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    right so your telling me i cant ask aboutover the counter products?

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    Great read, thanks for the info Heavy.

    Been off the stuff for about 18 weeks now, went to the dr for a checkup, testosterone levels were in the double digits, not good at all. Now that it's been so long since my last shot, would it be smarter to do the 5000iu/week to restart it all or would it be better to do the 500iu twice a week?

    my preferred option, do a new cycle and use HCG 500iu every 3 days weekly ?

    Sorry for the hassle - never been shut down before - thanks deca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merz View Post
    Great read, thanks for the info Heavy.

    Been off the stuff for about 18 weeks now, went to the dr for a checkup, testosterone levels were in the double digits, not good at all. Now that it's been so long since my last shot, would it be smarter to do the 5000iu/week to restart it all or would it be better to do the 500iu twice a week?

    my preferred option, do a new cycle and use HCG 500iu every 3 days weekly ?

    Sorry for the hassle - never been shut down before - thanks deca.
    How old are you?

    What was your Total T exactly?

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    My total T was 81 ng/dL, free testosterone 1.8 pg/dL.

    I'm 25 years old, 5'10 around 245lbs.
    My cycle consisted of:
    Test E - 500 mg/week - GP
    Test C - 400 mg/week - CVS yay US pharm
    Deca - 400 mg/week - Naps no label
    Adex - .5mg EOD - GP
    Dbol - Week 1-4 - 30mg/day - GP

    My PCT - no hcg or clomid like an idiot
    4 weeks of Nolva and I did adex as well if i remember correctly


    I had extra Test E so I decided to just put all 3 in one. I did between 2.0 and 2.5CC in my delts and 3 in glutes.

    I'm just disappointed at my own lack of preparation and now I'm paying for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merz View Post
    My total T was 81 ng/dL, free testosterone 1.8 pg/dL.

    I'm 25 years old, 5'10 around 245lbs.
    My cycle consisted of:
    Test E - 500 mg/week - GP
    Test C - 400 mg/week - CVS yay US pharm
    Deca - 400 mg/week - Naps no label
    Adex - .5mg EOD - GP
    Dbol - Week 1-4 - 30mg/day - GP

    My PCT - no hcg or clomid like an idiot
    4 weeks of Nolva and I did adex as well if i remember correctly


    I had extra Test E so I decided to just put all 3 in one. I did between 2.0 and 2.5CC in my delts and 3 in glutes.

    I'm just disappointed at my own lack of preparation and now I'm paying for it.
    I would try a Clomid restart. 50mg daily for 4 weeks.

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