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    Lose weight and gain muscle

    Anyone have some good articles as to why you can't lose weight and gain muscle simultaneously? Need to show to a friend. Thank You in advance.

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    You CAN, at first, and if you're fat. I've done it; many have.
    Not MUCH muscle, though. I lost about forty pounds the first year I lifted and dieted, and gained MAYBE eight pounds of muscle that first year.

    Once you've packed on some muscle, this relationship changes. Muscle is metabolically expensive; it burns off a lot of calories. You have to convince your body to invest in building muscle and when you're dieting, this is a pretty damned tough sell.





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    Quote Originally Posted by pbzhb View Post
    Anyone have some good articles as to why you can't lose weight and gain muscle simultaneously? Need to show to a friend. Thank You in advance.

    you can definitely DECREASE YOUR BODYFAT% and INCREASE MUSCLE!

    adding more quality mass (i.e. muscle) will decrease your bf% assuming no fat gain.

    id post a link but i dont have enough posts to post in thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler View Post
    you can definitely DECREASE YOUR BODYFAT% and INCREASE MUSCLE!

    adding more quality mass (i.e. muscle) will decrease your bf% assuming no fat gain.

    id post a link but i dont have enough posts to post in thread.
    Does Ronnie know you're here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaMayor View Post
    Does Ronnie know you're here?
    haha if he does, he about to get the quad stomp

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler View Post
    you can definitely DECREASE YOUR BODYFAT% and INCREASE MUSCLE!
    You sure can! Just not at the same time - not unless you're an untrained novice, or on gear.
    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler View Post
    adding more quality mass (i.e. muscle) will decrease your bf% assuming no fat gain.
    Yep. Math's awesome.
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    i'm no bodybuilder...I run a gym though...i actually was able to gain muscle and shed fat...one thing I learned from the experienced and knowledgeable lifters was to do cardio at a very low heart rate... i noticed that when they did it, they would go at the pace of a snail, they would be on a bike pedalling like they were 90yrs old...you prob already know this but you burn the highest percentage of bodyfat when you sleep... so nutrition was my #1, i did light cardio, but ate as I was building mass... some of my trained staff says it can't be done but i beg to differ...i gained 10lbs over a few months but leaned out my waist...to each his own..

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    How well developed were you, and how did you assess your muscle gains - because even guys on gear don't gain 10 lbs of muscle while cutting. How much weight did you lose over this process?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    How well developed were you, and how did you assess your muscle gains - because even guys on gear don't gain 10 lbs of muscle while cutting. How much weight did you lose over this process?

    I'm curious about that as well....

    I think many mistake the conditioning of existing muscle (paired with fat loss) for muscle "gain". In many cases, and perhaps moreso with those who were leading sedentary lifestyles beforehand, you're simply more aware of what you already have because you're using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    How well developed were you, and how did you assess your muscle gains - because even guys on gear don't gain 10 lbs of muscle while cutting. How much weight did you lose over this process?
    i didn't lose...i gained...i wasn't swole or anything...i just noticed big differences but it had to have been at least 6 months...i wouldn't say I was cut but i could see my abs showing although it wasn't ripped and my face and under chin area became thinner...i walked every morning when i woke up for 25 mins...

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    Walking in the AM slow like you do for 25 minutes MIGHT burn off 150 calories. This translates to roughly 17 grams of fat - about half an ounce. The walking was NOT ripping you up. You said earlier you gained 10 lbs of muscle in a few months - now you're saying it was over about six months. This is indeed possible. I'd still like to know how you assessed your gains though.

    I'm not trying to bust your chops here, okay - I just want to get my head around how you estimated your numbers.

    I'm glad you saw some nice recomposition - that part is always fun.





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    The thing I'm wondering is how are these people measuring there muscle gain when claiming they were cutting and adding muscle...????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkaba View Post
    The thing I'm wondering is how are these people measuring there muscle gain when claiming they were cutting and adding muscle...????
    Yep or they are bulking while losing fat.They never seem to have anything but anecdotal evidence to offer as to how though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbzhb View Post
    Anyone have some good articles as to why you can't lose weight and gain muscle simultaneously? Need to show to a friend. Thank You in advance.
    Pretty hard to do naturally man

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    ok, so i did light cardio daily, but that am walk thing I "thought" was the thing that helped...i'd been told about low glucose stores when you wake up and how you're body taps into fat mostly...i did light elyptical work as well 4 to 5 x's a week...a few months to me is 6 months..my bad...a couple is 3 or 4 to me but technically its 2..so around 6 months...maybe 5, maybe 7...sorry...i ate pretty damn strict...had a friend that competing and he wrote me up a regimen that was tough as hell but i stuck with...when he changed my workout/nutrition/cardio i remember smelling an amonia type smell that he said was normal because of something which i can't remember what was causing that....i did go from a not so fit 200 to 209...sorry..not 10 exactly...all I know is i looked alot better in my clothes, my upper body was noticeably bigger and my waist was noticeably leaner...and yea, i was taking alot of supps but no juice or anything like that...juice, thats prob old school lingo...lol

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