no way, it had nothing to do with the 1980 Olympia IMO, I think he (and his brother) would have traveled the same path regardless.
Shawn Ray, while interviewing Branch Warren, referenced Mike Mentzer and the 1980 Mr. Olympia competition.
Ray asked Branch about his drive to improve. Branch stated that a loss only spurs him, motivates him, drives him to come back even better.
Ray mentioned that the '80 O seemed to destroy Mentzer. It was just a brief comment, but I've often thought that Mentzer was demoralized by his being awarded fifth place rather than the ultimate prize in bodybuilding, especially against Arnold "Mr. Volume Training" Schwarzenegger.
If Mentzer had only viewed the loss as incentive to leave absolutely no doubts, wouldn't he have had a chance - a very good chance - at beating Franco at the 1981 Mr. Olympia?
Instead Mentzer's life apparently spun out of control and he failed to ever set foot on an Olympian stage again.
Dead too young, Mentzer had another five Olympias in him, imo.
How do you view defeat? What's your mental game like? Do you believe that something like a win or a loss can set the tone for the rest of your life? Or even shorten your life?
Mentzer's family had a history of health issues, so he may have died exactly as could be expected or predicted, however I'd like to believe that a positive attitude and uplifting determination can serve a healthful benefit to all people.
Any opinions? Any anecdotes?
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The stories I've read suggested he wigged out to the point of having to be institutionalized. Then there was the drug abuse...
I know his brother died of another ailment (complications of Berger's disease) that had nothing to do with the Olympia at all.
Ray, 1979 AAU Mr. America, died two days after findng his older brother Mike dead in their apartment. Ray had been ill for some time and was a kidney dialysis patient.
"Originally, Mike's body was sent to a funeral home in nearby Torrance. However, given the suspicious circumstances of the deaths of two brothers dying within two days of each other, the remains of both Mike and Ray have been sent to the coroner's office in order to determine cause of death. The initial reports of Ray's death circulating through the bodybuilding community were that he had committed suicide," according to photographer Bill Dobbins.
More @ Mentzer Dead
I suspect that much like married couples who die only days apart, Ray was so distressed by Mike's death that his body just gave up.
The 1980 Mr. Olympia finally proved to me the bias and politics in bodybuilding.
Arnold should have NEVER taken the prize. Mentzer sure was ticked about the whole thing, I do know that much. If I'm not mistaken the 1980 event was the last Mr. Olympia to be televised on a national station...I remember watching it on ABC's "Wide World of Sports"...the thrill of victory, and the agony of defeat!!!
Really wish Mentzer had competed in '81. I wonder if they would have still awarded the title to Franco.
any sport where there are judges, you're at their mercy.
Mike was a quitter, no matter what hapend in 1980 Mike would eventually found a reason to quit.
Arnold was a Weider ass-kisser...with placings based on physique and condition Arnold should not have even taken second place.
Arnold may get the award for the "world's most self-absorbed man". I cannot tolerate to even look at him.
Charisma counts, but even from the physique Arnold brought to the stage there may be merit to his winning the prize that year. Arnold at 75% was impressive if not better than the other competitors, imo.
They're all shorter than Schwarzenegger and so lose a point there, imo. No, I'm no IFBB judge, but all things being otherwise equal I'm impressed by the taller competitor with the bigger guns. That's Arnold.
Frank Zane was one of the few to beat Arnold, but 1980 was not 1968.
I always thought Roger Walker (center, below) was the one who was robbed at that show.
Also, remember seeing Arnold in Pumping Iron? He was/is a master at head games and intimidation in the gym and on the stage.
arnolds calves look like mine in that pic, small and high. haha
Sometimes the truth can rape your entire belief system.
I was very much into bodybuilding at the time everyone was shocked that Arnold won he was small and not nearly as hard as some of the other competitors, Menzter was amazing looking in the pics I saw and should have won easily this contest was definitely fixed to the hilt.
No way,thats bad news..
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not at his best but great calves chest and arms .
Mike could have just as easily won the '80 O and then started his drug addiction related to fame and fortune rather than bitterness and disillusion. Still, I'd like to see that alternate universe where Mentzer won and Arnold took 5th.
Arnold would have bounced back from 5th. No doubt.
I saw both brothers around Gold's Venice in the early 80's. thought wow, they live in their car? Those guys trained their BALLS OFF every rep! Truly unreal to watch as a teen
^^^^ Saw them when I was a teen as well. Ray appeared at the Ephrata Rec Center to sign autographs. He was a member of the 30-pin club while a wrestler for Ephrata H.S.
Saw Mike training at a place called the Lancaster Health Spa, great gym that had boxing, martial arts, free weights back when they had chalk buckets... Mike was doing triceps pushdowns in the corner, backed turned to me, and I thought it was just some really fat guy -- there was NO way that those arms were solid muscle.
Then he turned around and I recognized him from the magazines. His arms were seriously ridiculous. The first Olympia-level guns I'd ever seen and my teenaged brain could barely rap reality around the sight. Absolutely absurd to see in person.
Didn't have the nerve to even say hello much less get an autograph.