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    Health Care Bill

    Can someone provide a link or pdf to the exact bill that is to be voted on? There is so much misinformation in the media, and I'd like to anylize the actual bill.
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    Good luck reading this crap. I have and there are some good points and many many more bad points depending on what type of situation you're currently in. There' so much govt fat and B.S. in here that doesn't reduce cost of health care one bit. Additionally there is a lot of reference to other pieces of legislature you need to have to decipher much of it.

    It's a shame the government has been vilifying insurance companies in error to tug at the hearts of the American people. None of us like insurance companies because they can sometimes suck however the people need to put emotions aside and look at the realities and at what this bill is really going to do to this country.

    It's not the insurance company that charges $4K for an MRI, $8K for a CAT scan or in my case $300,000 for a 5 way bypass and 7 days in the hospital (which by the way it was $5,000 per day for the hospital room only!!) The hospitals charge the exorbitant fees and and cry it's because of all the staff, operating costs and of course the R&D that went into the products your using. ($89.00 for a box of tissues!!??) give me a break. That's where they need cost controls. Oh well enough of my soap box/opinion.

    Here's a couple Pro/Con's from this fiasco. You'll need to read/interpret the rest on your own.


    Positive:
    A. It expands Medicaid eligibility for low-income individuals and families.
    b. It allows a new tax credit for small business employers who provide health care coverage to their employees.

    Negative
    A. Creation of 16,000 IRS jobs to review your insurance to make sure it meet the governments level of health care and administer you a fine if it doesn't. (This one was on the news this morning)
    B. It imposes a surtax on individuals who do not obtain health care coverage. (So now all the 20 somethings that pay as they go to the doctor will now have to pony up for an insurance plan or pay a $3000-$5000 fine)
    C. The new tax credit does not offset the administrative burden of small business owners in providing health care coverage for their employers. Employers will be able to pay a penalty of $750 per employee to stop funding employer based health plans. (basically forcing all health care to be obtained from the government putting 250,000+ people in the insurance industry out of a job).


    This is a link to multiple documents pertaining to health care. Fact Checking the White House | Fix Health Care Policy

    Senate bill that was passed.:
    http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/p...-as-passed.pdf

    The House Bill:
    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...962pcs.txt.pdf

    Differences between House and Senate bills:
    http://www.politico.com/static/PPM13...onference.html


    Link to Senator Reids massive 2074 page monstrosity.
    http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/p...e-care-act.pdf

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    it won't be posted until (if) it passes..
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    Exactly, Pelosi the C***, even said, we have to hurry and pass it so we can ALL find out whats in it!!! Nothin like gettin crap forced down your throat!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Exactly, Pelosi the C***, even said, we have to hurry and pass it so we can ALL find out whats in it!!! Nothin like gettin crap forced down your throat!!!
    YEP most didn't catch that when she said it..we might be fucted
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Situation View Post
    YEP most didn't catch that when she said it..we might be fucted
    Oh yeah, we are DEFINATLTY fucted!!!
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    Thanks, twarrior!

    B. It imposes a surtax on individuals who do not obtain health care coverage. (So now all the 20 somethings that pay as they go to the doctor will now have to pony up for an insurance plan or pay a $3000-$5000 fine)
    So this will be handled through income tax?
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    If this thing passes, he'll have done more fiscal damage to the US than Georgie did by waging two wars.

    I hope someone puts a bullet in that fucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate! View Post
    Thanks, twarrior!



    So this will be handled through income tax?
    your looking at everone that works...all incomes will pay high taxes
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    He was right when he said he would change politics as we know it. We now have Chicago style politics in DC. Looks like they've finally bribed enough members of their own party to get this disaster rammed down our throats. Too bad some patriot couldn't have assassinated him on the campaign trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    He was right when he said he would change politics as we know it. We now have Chicago style politics in DC. Looks like they've finally bribed enough members of their own party to get this disaster rammed down our throats. Too bad some patriot couldn't have assassinated him on the campaign trail.

    No assassination that would be wrong ...guy ya need some help he was elected shady as it was with acorn.. but he our prez... but the strong arming and shady back door deals will make him aone term prez but the damage will be done.. accorn is chapter 11 now they is broke

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Situation View Post
    your looking at everone that works...all incomes will pay high taxes
    I was asking how they would fine people who chose not to buy an insurance policy.
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    it passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainandGain View Post
    it passed.
    those mother fuckers interrupted my TV show last night with that damn news!!!





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    this pretty much sums it up.....


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