Hey, folks.
Unfortunately, yes, this is yet another ‘My First Cycle’ thread. And possibly one of the most superfluous and longwinded ones, too. But please bear with me as I’m just trying to work everything out.
Below is what cycle I intend to run. It’s based purely on one of Heavy Iron’s suggestions in his insightful First Cycle and PCT thread. It starts at a slightly-above-average 600mg per week, and ramps up to 1000mg. Now I know this sounds severe and considered far too high for a newbie, but these larger doses - if reached - are only run for a short amount of time. And, although I’m going to stock up so I have enough of everything I need to run these doses, doesn’t necessarily mean I’m going to. I’m going to start at 600mg, and if all’s good and sides are low, then I’ll ramp it up a bit at a time. If not, then I won’t.
I’ve also tried to calculate the quantities of what I’ll need, too. I’ve always found this confusing, and my math is probably way off, so apologies if that’s the case. Also, I understand I won’t necessarily be able to get all that's needed to the exact quantities, and will have to round up or buy in certain set amounts. However, this was primarily to get clear in my head what would be the minimum amounts needed. I’ll ensure I get slightly more than needed, particularly tabs and pins ito cover any loss or breakage etc.
Anyway, here are the details (of which I’ve probably made more confusing that they need be).
Feel free to advise on dosages, frequencies, amounts – anything that needs improving or is just plain wrong.
My stats:
Height: 6 ft
Weight: approx 235lbs
BF%: estimated 10-12%
Length of time lifting: 10 years
Previous use of PH/AAS: M1T, 1-T transdermal and H-drol stack, 1-Andro RX
Years lifting before using enhancers: 6-7
Current diet: approx 3,500 cals (pretty clean, but far below what I usually eat)
Bulking diet: approx 5,000 – 6,000 cals
Goals: Mass
On Cycle:
Week 1-5 600mg Testosterone weekly (2 x 300mg)
Week 6-8 800mg Testosterone weekly ( 2 x 400mg )
Week 9-10 1 gram Testosterone weekly ( 2 x 500mg )
Are these latter, high-dosage shots going to be a problem? Is pinning 500mg in one shot going to be significantly trickier than 300mg?
10 mg Aromasin daily
500iu HCG twice weekly.
I will also be running supps. for prostate protection, skin and BP.
Frequencies:
Sunday 10mg Aromasin
Monday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
Tuesday 10mg Aromasin/300mg Enanthate
Wednesday 10mg Aromasin
Thursday 10mg Aromasin
Friday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
Saturday 10mg Aromasin/300mg Enanthate
PCT
·Day 10 - 16 : 1,000iu HCG EOD.
·100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3)
·20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)
·3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses
·10g creatine daily
I’ve written that I’ll be taking 1,000iu of HCG every other day during PCT. However, if I’ve been pinning 500iu on a Monday and a Friday (1000iu per week) throughout the cycle, will this still be ample when on PCT? Or is it essential that I up the dose and shots to 1000 iu in total EOD?
Also, I’m assuming there won’t be a week or so break between my last test shot and the increased dose HCG shot like cycles where HCG is used only in PCT.
Quantities:
Test Enanthate:
·Week 1-5 @ 600mg ED = 600x5 = 3,000mg
·Week 6-8 @ 800mg ED = 800x3 = 2,400mg
·Week 9-10 @ 1,000mg ED = 1000x2 = 2,000mg
Total: 7,400mg
So, with each 10ml vial containing 250mg/ml, does this mean I’ll need 3 vials in total (7,500mg)?
HCG
·16 weeks @ 1,000iu (2x500iu) = 16 x 1,000 = 16,000
Total: 3 vials of 5,000iu + 1 vial of 1,000iu
This might not be accurate as I’m still waiting to see if I need to up HCG use to 1000iu EOD throughout PCT, rather than the lower, less frequent 2 x 500iu shots per week when on cycle.
Aromasin
·On cycle: Week 1-10 @10mg ED. (10mg x 7) x 10 = 700mg for 10 weeks
·PCT: 3 weeks @ 20mg ED. (20mg x 7) x 3 = 420mg
·1 week @ 10 mg ED. 7 x 10 = 70mg
·Total: 700mg + 420mg + 70 = 1190mg
10mg tabs total: 119 tabs
or
25mg tabs total: 47.6 (50)
I’m not sure what size these come in.
Clomid
·3 weeks @ 100mg = (100mg x 7) x 3 = 2,100mg
·1 week @ 50mg = 50mg x 7 = 350mg
·2,100mg + 350mg = 2,450mg.
·2,450mg / 50mg = 49
Total: 49 tabs
Vitamin C
·(1000mg x 3) x 7 days = 21,000mg
·21,000 x 16 weeks = 336, 000mg
·336, 000 mg/ 1000mg = 336 tabs
Total: 336 tabs
Creatine
·10g x 7 = 70g
·70g x 6 weeks = 420g
Total: 420g
Pins
Test:
·2 x shots per week = 2 x pins to pull + 2 x pins to shoot = 4 pins per week
·4 x 10weeks = 40 pins ( 20 x 18g to pull, 20 x 23g to shoot)
HCG:
·2 x shots per week = 2 x pins to pull + 2 pins to shoot = 4 pins per week
·4 x 16 weeks = 64 pins
Bundles of alcohol swabs and band aids (or is it better to leave these out and let the site ‘breathe’?)
Overall:
·3 x 10ml (250mg/ml) vials of test enanthate
·3 x 5000iu vials + 1 x 1000iu vial of HGC
·50 (25mg tabs) or 100 (10mg tabs) Aromasin
·50 x 50mg tabs Clomid
·336 (1000mg tabs) Vitamin C
·470g Creatine
·20 18g pins (more in case of breaks)
·20 23g pins
·64 insulin pins
Again, feel free to advise on dosages, frequencies, amounts – anything that needs improving or is just plain wrong.
Cheers.
Unfortunately, yes, this is yet another ‘My First Cycle’ thread. And possibly one of the most superfluous and longwinded ones, too. But please bear with me as I’m just trying to work everything out.
Below is what cycle I intend to run. It’s based purely on one of Heavy Iron’s suggestions in his insightful First Cycle and PCT thread. It starts at a slightly-above-average 600mg per week, and ramps up to 1000mg. Now I know this sounds severe and considered far too high for a newbie, but these larger doses - if reached - are only run for a short amount of time. And, although I’m going to stock up so I have enough of everything I need to run these doses, doesn’t necessarily mean I’m going to. I’m going to start at 600mg, and if all’s good and sides are low, then I’ll ramp it up a bit at a time. If not, then I won’t.
I’ve also tried to calculate the quantities of what I’ll need, too. I’ve always found this confusing, and my math is probably way off, so apologies if that’s the case. Also, I understand I won’t necessarily be able to get all that's needed to the exact quantities, and will have to round up or buy in certain set amounts. However, this was primarily to get clear in my head what would be the minimum amounts needed. I’ll ensure I get slightly more than needed, particularly tabs and pins ito cover any loss or breakage etc.
Anyway, here are the details (of which I’ve probably made more confusing that they need be).
Feel free to advise on dosages, frequencies, amounts – anything that needs improving or is just plain wrong.
My stats:
Height: 6 ft
Weight: approx 235lbs
BF%: estimated 10-12%
Length of time lifting: 10 years
Previous use of PH/AAS: M1T, 1-T transdermal and H-drol stack, 1-Andro RX
Years lifting before using enhancers: 6-7
Current diet: approx 3,500 cals (pretty clean, but far below what I usually eat)
Bulking diet: approx 5,000 – 6,000 cals
Goals: Mass
On Cycle:
Week 1-5 600mg Testosterone weekly (2 x 300mg)
Week 6-8 800mg Testosterone weekly ( 2 x 400mg )
Week 9-10 1 gram Testosterone weekly ( 2 x 500mg )
Are these latter, high-dosage shots going to be a problem? Is pinning 500mg in one shot going to be significantly trickier than 300mg?
10 mg Aromasin daily
500iu HCG twice weekly.
I will also be running supps. for prostate protection, skin and BP.
Frequencies:
Sunday 10mg Aromasin
Monday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
Tuesday 10mg Aromasin/300mg Enanthate
Wednesday 10mg Aromasin
Thursday 10mg Aromasin
Friday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
Saturday 10mg Aromasin/300mg Enanthate
PCT
·Day 10 - 16 : 1,000iu HCG EOD.
·100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3)
·20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)
·3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses
·10g creatine daily
I’ve written that I’ll be taking 1,000iu of HCG every other day during PCT. However, if I’ve been pinning 500iu on a Monday and a Friday (1000iu per week) throughout the cycle, will this still be ample when on PCT? Or is it essential that I up the dose and shots to 1000 iu in total EOD?
Also, I’m assuming there won’t be a week or so break between my last test shot and the increased dose HCG shot like cycles where HCG is used only in PCT.
Quantities:
Test Enanthate:
·Week 1-5 @ 600mg ED = 600x5 = 3,000mg
·Week 6-8 @ 800mg ED = 800x3 = 2,400mg
·Week 9-10 @ 1,000mg ED = 1000x2 = 2,000mg
Total: 7,400mg
So, with each 10ml vial containing 250mg/ml, does this mean I’ll need 3 vials in total (7,500mg)?
HCG
·16 weeks @ 1,000iu (2x500iu) = 16 x 1,000 = 16,000
Total: 3 vials of 5,000iu + 1 vial of 1,000iu
This might not be accurate as I’m still waiting to see if I need to up HCG use to 1000iu EOD throughout PCT, rather than the lower, less frequent 2 x 500iu shots per week when on cycle.
Aromasin
·On cycle: Week 1-10 @10mg ED. (10mg x 7) x 10 = 700mg for 10 weeks
·PCT: 3 weeks @ 20mg ED. (20mg x 7) x 3 = 420mg
·1 week @ 10 mg ED. 7 x 10 = 70mg
·Total: 700mg + 420mg + 70 = 1190mg
10mg tabs total: 119 tabs
or
25mg tabs total: 47.6 (50)
I’m not sure what size these come in.
Clomid
·3 weeks @ 100mg = (100mg x 7) x 3 = 2,100mg
·1 week @ 50mg = 50mg x 7 = 350mg
·2,100mg + 350mg = 2,450mg.
·2,450mg / 50mg = 49
Total: 49 tabs
Vitamin C
·(1000mg x 3) x 7 days = 21,000mg
·21,000 x 16 weeks = 336, 000mg
·336, 000 mg/ 1000mg = 336 tabs
Total: 336 tabs
Creatine
·10g x 7 = 70g
·70g x 6 weeks = 420g
Total: 420g
Pins
Test:
·2 x shots per week = 2 x pins to pull + 2 x pins to shoot = 4 pins per week
·4 x 10weeks = 40 pins ( 20 x 18g to pull, 20 x 23g to shoot)
HCG:
·2 x shots per week = 2 x pins to pull + 2 pins to shoot = 4 pins per week
·4 x 16 weeks = 64 pins
Bundles of alcohol swabs and band aids (or is it better to leave these out and let the site ‘breathe’?)
Overall:
·3 x 10ml (250mg/ml) vials of test enanthate
·3 x 5000iu vials + 1 x 1000iu vial of HGC
·50 (25mg tabs) or 100 (10mg tabs) Aromasin
·50 x 50mg tabs Clomid
·336 (1000mg tabs) Vitamin C
·470g Creatine
·20 18g pins (more in case of breaks)
·20 23g pins
·64 insulin pins
Again, feel free to advise on dosages, frequencies, amounts – anything that needs improving or is just plain wrong.
Cheers.
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