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    Powder Conversion Recipes






    Originally posted by Sallyanne:

    Several years ago, I learned how to convert pellets into injectible tren because my boyfriend (bless him) was useless with this kind of thing. I'd much rather he (and all of you) get the proper knowledge and a safe product than to buy from a UG that is probably converting in the bathroom sink. Once I found out how to get my hands on powders, I realized how easy and cost effective it is to convert them.

    All the items needed to convert powders to injectable are easily procured online. Remember that you don't have to buy your supplies from a company that caters to bodybuilders. (these companies are usually more expensive because they know what you're using their stuff for.)

    The only exception I've found is www.researchsupply.net. They have have bulk and retail pricing and are reliable. Remember that you can also buy from chemical supply houses, medical, and science supply online. Do a Google search for "science supplies" and you'll be surprised at what you can find for a very reasonable price.

    Chemicals you'll need for almost every conversion:

    BB: Benzyl benzoate
    BA: Benzyl alcohol (make sure that you do not exceed 5% BA for any of the conversions)

    For Liquid Orals:
    PEG 300: Polyethylene Glycol

    Oils:
    Sesame oil is good, and so is grape see oil. Stay away from the thicker oils, and make sure you don't have an alergy to the oil you're using (walnut, for example).

    Supplies:
    Some companies sell sterile vials with the stopper and crimper already on them. This is good if you have only a small amount to make or only convert every once in a while. Remember to use a venting needle with these when adding your final conversion to them. (transfer air out while putting the product in.)


    Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc or bigger
    18 or 20 gauge needles to vent and to transfer
    Vials/beakers/glass measuring cups for mixing - heat proof
    Sterile Vials or vials/stoppers/crimper for your product
    sterile filters - whatman or equivelent
    plastic or glass mixing spoons/swizzles. No metal
    shallow pan to sterilize vials and to heat up mixtures


    These recipes are not mine. They are courtesy of KIAN PHILLIPS -- BSc/SpSc - CPT . I have made almost all of the recipes that follow except Winstrol. I also have not capped any powders, but the recipes are here. If you have questions about these recipes that I cannot answer, I'll contact Kian and try to get the answer for you.

    Good Luck!


    The procedures for each conversion are almost identical but the measurements differ so pay close attention to this fact.


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    Conversions and Information listed on this page:
    • Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -
    • Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
    • Test Cypionate
    • Test Enanthate
    • Test Propionate
    • Trenbolone (non pellet form)
    • Winstrol (injectable)
    • Anadrol
    • Anavar
    • Armidex
    • Clomid
    • Dianabol
    • Femara
    • Nolvadex
    • Proviron
    • Winstrol (oral)
    • Capping Powders

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    Test Enanthate

    Powder: 5 grams
    Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 5 grams testosterone enanthate
    • 15.25 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 1ml 5% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 5 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Test Enanthate

    Powder: 10 grams
    Produces: 40 ml @ 250 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 10 grams testosterone enanthate
    • Benzyl Alcohol 2ml 5% BA
    • 30.5 ml sesame oil
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 10 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Test Cypionate

    Powder: 5 grams
    Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 5 grams testosterone cypionate
    • 15.25 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 1 ml 5% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 5 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Test Cypionate

    Powder: 10 grams
    Produces: 40 ml @ 250 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 10 grams testosterone cypionate
    • 30.5 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 2 ml 5% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 10 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -

    Note: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is liquid at room temperature so use the following conversion: 1 ml of EQ = 1.18 grams

    Powder: 5 grams
    Produces: 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 5 grams Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
    • 20.50 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 0.75 ml 3% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 5 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -

    Note: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is liquid at room temperature so use the following conversion: 1 ml of EQ = 1.18 grams

    Powder: 10 grams
    Produces: 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 10 grams Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
    • 41 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 1.5 ml 3% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 10 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Note: If you have more than the equivalent of 10 grams of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , it is recommended that you do the conversion all at the same time to avoid having to measure and calculate 5 or 10 gram equivalents each time.


    Test testosterone propionate

    Powder: 5 grams
    Produces: 50 ml @ 100 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 5 grams test testosterone propionate
    • 36.25 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BA
    • Benzyl Benzoate 7.5 ml 15% BB
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 5 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • add BB to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Test testosterone propionate

    Powder: 10 grams
    Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 10 grams test testosterone propionate
    • 72.5 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BA
    • Benzyl Benzoate 15 ml 15% BB
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 10 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • add BB to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

    Powder: 5 grams
    Produces: 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 5 grams Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - - powder
    • 18.75 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 1.25 ml 5% BA
    • Benzyl Benzoate 1.25 ml 5% BB
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 5 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • add BB to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

    Powder: 10 grams
    Produces: 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 10 grams Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - - powder
    • 37.5 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BA
    • Benzyl Benzoate 2.5 ml 5% BB
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 10 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • add BB to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    trenbolone

    Note: this conversion is not for the pellet form

    Powder: 5 grams
    Produces: 50 ml @ 100 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 5 grams trenbolone
    • 43.75 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 5 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    trenbolone

    Note: this conversion is not for the pellet form

    Powder: 10 grams
    Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 10 grams trenbolone
    • 87.5 ml sesame oil
    • Benzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BA
    • Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
    • 18 or 20 gauge needles
    • Vial
    • Sterile Vial
    • Whatman sterile filter

    Procedure:
    • measure 10 grams of powder
    • place the powder in the vial
    • add BA to the vial
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
    • add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
    • gently shake the vial.
    • reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
    • place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
    • draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
    • take the other syringe with 2ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

    Winstrol

    Note: there is a tendency to ruin the product during conversion so only use one gram at a time

    Powder: 1 gram
    Produces: 20 ml at 50 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of winstrol
    • one 20 ml glass vial or larger
    • one 20 ml sterile glass vial or larger
    • one 0.45 Whatman sterile syringe filter
    • two 5 or 10 ml syringes
    • two 3 ml syringes
    • three 18 or 20 gauge pins
    • two 22 gauge pins
    • 17 ml of sesame seed oil
    • 0.2 ml of benzyl alcohol
    • 2 ml of Mr.T super solvent

    Procedure:
    • measure one gram of powder
    • draw out 2 ml of the Mr. T super solvent using one of the 3 ml syringes
    • place the measured powder in the open vial and add the solvent
    • place the rubber stopper back on the vial and put one of the 20 gauge pins in the stopper
    • place the vial in a small pan and place the pan on the eye of the stove
    • heat until the powder dissolves into a liquid (usually around 239.8-242 degrees F)
    • turn off the heat and let it cool down in the pan to room temperature (approx. 15 minutes)
    • heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven until it reaches a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will be necessary to use slightly more oil than is required as all of it will not be able to be utilised)
    • draw out 0.2 ml of benzyl alcohol (this will account for 1% of the solution so make sure the measurement is correct)
    • add the benzyl alcohol to the solution in the vial and shake very gently
    • draw out the oil with the 10 ml syringe (make sure the oil has cooled down somewhat before doing this)
    • add 15 ml of the oil (saving 2 ml for later) to the solution in the vial and shake very gently Note: If the winstrol begins to clump back up, reheat the solution (place in a pan, put the pan on the eye of the stove and heat until it liquefies again) and allow it to cool down slowly
    • place one of the 18 gauge pins in the sterile, unopened vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
    • draw out the solution using the other 10 ml syringe, attach to the filter, and slowly press the solution out into the sterile vial
    • use the previously saved 2 ml of oil in the other syringe and run it through the filter to ensure that all the Winstrol passes through
    • after the filtering process, leave the pin in the sterile vial and remove the filter
    • place the vial in a pan and place the pan on the eye of the stove
    • heat for 15-20 minutes, remove from heat, and let it cool down to room temperature (approx. 15 minutes)

    The finished solution will be light-gold in colour.
    Ensure that you follow the guidelines carefully for this conversion.

    For conversions larger than one gram, refer to the powder conversion calculator at the top of this page.


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    POWDER TO LIQUID ORAL CONVERSIONS:


    Anadrol
    Powder: per 1 gram of Oxymetholone
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Oxymetholone powder
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 8.4 ml of PEG 300
    • 10.5 ml 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Anavar
    Powder: per 1 gram of Oxandrolone
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 9.8 ml of PEG 300
    • 39.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Armidex
    Powder: per 1 gram of Anastrozole
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 5 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Anastrozole powder
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 19.9 ml of PEG 300
    • 179.1 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Clomid
    Powder: per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 7.6 ml of Glycerol
    • 11.3 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Clomid
    Powder: per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 8.4 ml of PEG 600
    • 10.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Dianabol
    Powder: per 1 gram of Methandrostenolone
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Methandrostenolone powder
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 19 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Femara
    Powder: per 1 gram of Letrozole
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 5 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Letrozole powder
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 19.9 ml of PEG 300
    • 179.1 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Nolvadex
    Powder: per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 19.6 ml of Glycerol
    • 29.4 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Nolvadex
    Powder: per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 9.8 ml of PEG 600
    • 39.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Proviron
    Powder: per 1 gram of Mesterolone
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Mesterolone
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 8.4 ml of PEG 300
    • 10.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    Winstrol
    Powder: per 1 gram of Stanozolol
    Produces: Highest concentration made - 25 mg/ml

    Requirements:
    • 1 gram of Stanozolol
    • 1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids
    • 7.8 ml of PEG 300
    • 31.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

    For all of the above conversions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol, use the following procedure:
    • place a sufficient amount of water in a pan and place on the stove
    • remove from heat when the water reaches boiling temperature
    • place the powder and the PEG in the beaker
    • immerse the beaker in the pan of water so that the water is level with the top of the contents of the beaker
    • gently swirl or stir the contents of the beaker until the solution is clear (reheat the water if necessary)
    • remove the beaker from the water
    • allow the PEG to cool down
    • slowly add the 190 Proof Alcohol to the mixture
    • gently stir until fully mixed

    For all of the above conversions where PEG is not required, use the following procedure:
    • mix powder and 190 Proof Alcohol in the beaker
    • gently swirl or stir the contents of the beaker until the solution is clear
    • the majority of powders which do not require PEG will dissolve readily but for those that are troublesome, refer to the heating procedure as outlined above

    In the event that 190 Proof Grain Alcohol (EverClear) is unavailable, then substitute Bacardi 151.

    Flavoured oils can also be added to mask the taste if that is your preference.


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    CAPPING POWDERS:

    Requirements:
    • capping machine (ie: Cap-M-Quick, The Capsule Machine)
    • blank caps: size 0 or 00
    • set of scales: must be accurate with very small measures
    • powder of selected compound (ie: anavar, clomid, Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , etc.)
    • filler powder (ie: sodium bicarbonate, corn starch, etc.)
    • mortar and pestle for mixing purposes

    Procedure for an accurate mix:
    To make this easier to follow, I will refer to the selected compound powder as 'CP' and the filler powder as 'FP'.
    • place blank caps in the capping machine
    • fill the caps with the FP (make sure they are completely full)
    • empty the caps out onto the scales and weight the FP
    • divide the weight of the total FP by the number of capsules the machine produces per time
    • clean the scales off before proceeding
    • place blank caps in the capping machine
    • fill the caps with the CP (make sure they are completely full)
    • empty the caps onto the scales and weigh the CP
    • divide the weight of the total CP by the number of capsules the machine produces per time

    You will now need to determine the ratio of weights of the respective powders CP:FP which you have just capped and weighed.
    Remember now that you have 24 caps of CP and 24 caps of FP for a total of 48 caps.

    This is just an example of weights:

    We determined that our total FP weight for the 24 caps was 18,000 mg or 750 mg per cap.
    We determined that our total CP weight for the 24 caps was 10,800 mg or 450 mg per cap.

    If you are making 100 mg caps of a specific compound for use, then your equations would look like this:
    Note: 100 mg does not represent the weight of the cap but rather the active indredient of the finished cap.

    100 mg CP = (unknown number) mg FP

    450 mg CP = 750 mg FP
    100 mg CP = 750 mg FP / 4.5 mg CP
    100 mg CP = 166.67 mg FP

    750 mg FP - 166.67 mg FP = 583.33 mg FP

    583.33 mg represents exactly how much FP must be used per cap to allow for the presence of the CP.

    Therefore, to make 48 - 100 mg caps of the specified compound in this example, you would need:
    • 27,999.84 mg of FP
    • 4,800 mg CP

    To mix the CP and FP together you will need to use the mortar and pestle.
    For a proper mix, make sure that the amount of FP you are adding to the mortar is equal to the existing CP or CP+FP as the mix progresses.
    • place all of the CP in the mortar (4,800 mg from the above example)
    • place an equal amount of the FP in the mortar (4,800 mg)
    • mix for a few minutes
    • place an equal amount of FP in the mortar (this time 9,600 mg which is equal to 4,800 mg CP + 4,800 mg FP)
    • mix for a few minutes
    • place the remaining FP into the mortar and mix

    You are now ready to cap.
    Follow the directions of the particular capping machine which you are using.





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    Great post Heavy...shall we make this a sticky?

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    Also,all you new "chemists" be wary of the 5% BA in these recipes.You only need to use 2% BA in most cases.Example : 2% BA/20 % BB with making prop





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    Posted by Superchicken ( years ago)

    Melting point test :


    well obviously the 1 bad thing about making your own gear is you get a powder in the mail thats usually white, so how do you know what it really is? what if the source sent the wrong one? or what if he was scandalous and cut it with something to profit more? how do you know?

    well a few ways.

    obviously the best and only failproof way is to have a lab test it for you, this way you will know what it is without doubt, and also how pure it is. this is most recomended. but obviously you cant walk into just any lab and hand them some steroid powder and expect them not to question you lol. this also be somewhat expensive sometimes.

    you can also look up a physical description in chemistry books such as the Merck Index, to try and get a rough visuall description of the powder for ****s and kicks. not recomended at all.

    some gear is a liquid or paste at room temp. such examples of this are testosterone enanthate, boldenone undeclynate(eq), and i also believe nandrolone decanoate(deca). there may be other these just came to mind.

    this is because hormones have melting points, this is the temperature where they change(usually from a powder) into a liquid. the above mentioned have a melting point in the range of common room temperature. so they melt at room temp. other hormones have much higher melting points, so they need to be heated if you wanted them to melt. (dont confuse melting with dissolving in a solvent/oil)

    a crude but very usefull home test you can do for free in the privacy of you own home is a melting point test. this will give you a very good idea if you have what you think you do, however its not very accurate for testing purity levels, if its a good source they should be relatively pure though.


    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    now everything has a specific melting point, this is determined by a few factors:

    -the base drug ex. testosterone, nadrolone, boldenone, trenbolone etc...

    - the ester attached to the hormone ex. propionate, acetate, enanthate, decanoate, undeclynate etc...

    -the purity of the drug, if there are other things mixed in the powder this will skew the results of where it melts, they will not always melt seperately, but sometimes do, it depoends what the impurity is.

    -and finally to a much lesser degree the method the manufacturer used to create the crystals. this usually has a very minimal effect but i thought i would mention it.

    so what we can do is a rough test in our ovens to see where our powder melts. this is not accurate enough to make an assumption on purity levels, but it can be usefull enough to at least tell you you got the test prop you ordered, and not baking soda.

    now first you find out the melting point of the hormone in question. they are usually listed in celcius, so be aware if your oven reads in farenheit.

    lets say we are measuring test prop which has a melting point of 118-122c. thats about 244-251f.

    preheat your oven to about 220f or so, you want it lower than the melting point.

    i cant stress this part enough, YOUR OVEN THERMOMETER IS A PIECE OF **** AND ISNT ACCURATE! it sux but its true 99% of the time. im not kidding when i say yours could easily be off by 50degrees or more. im sure you can see why for our purposes this is not good. this is the downfall of this home test.

    now what we can do to try and remedy this situation is go buy a couple oven thermometers at the local supermarket, they are usually under $5 ez. i recomend getting 2 diff types, not 2 of the same model, cause these are pieces of **** as well.

    what we will try to do is use all 3 thermometers to acheive an average reading between the 3 of them, this will make the temperature reading more accurate. if you can read them acurate enough do this: therm 1 reads 215 therm 2 reads 225 therm 3 reads 220, add 215+225+220=660 divide by 3 660/3=220 so 220 is your reading.

    when placing things in the oven, both the thermometers and the powder, we want to put a baking sheet int there first, then put something in between the baking sheet and the thermometer as well as the powder to insulate them. we only want the air temperature to affect our experiment, not direct(and higher) heat from the bottom flame/element. you must do this. an oven mitt works well but i set mine on fire above 375d. below that it was ok, so find something suitable.

    put the other 2 into your oven(insluate them) and let the temp stabilize for a good 10min after it has preheated(important). take a look and see where the temp reads, hopefully all 2-3 of them read somewhat similar temperatures. if you see vastly different readings go get another themometer and put them all in there and see which one is the piece of ****, find it and throw it away.

    ok so we are at 220 degrees now, so put a small amount of powder on a piece of aluminum foil, and place this in the oven with the thermometers on the insulator. let it sit at this temp for a few minuets as you lowered the temp when you open the oven door. every 5-10 min or so SLOWLY increase the temp 5 degrees or so, while watching the thermometers and the powder, noting the temp and whether the powder has melted yet. when the powder melts look at the temp and see what temp it melted at. yes this is tedious to sit there looking thorugh the oven window with a flashlight for 30min, cause you gotta watch it carefully if you want to be as accurate ass possible. i feel bad for those of you who have a free standing stove, cause youll be sitting on the floor.

    theres a few things to keep in mind

    an electric oven heats by cycling its coil element on and off, so the heat turns on and off, the temp will rise then fall, within a range, this is typically about 50degrees for an electric oven. this means when you set your oven at 400f it heats to 425 then cools to 375 then heats to 425 etc....

    you can see how this can screw us, so watch those thermometers carefully. unfortunately they dont respond very fast, meaning if your temp is rising rapidly your therms might read 400 while its really at 410. thats why we increase the heat very very slowly to try and avoid this. sometimes its onavidable on certain ovens.

    the reason why we must insulate the thermometers and the powder from direct heat is because the air temp may be 400 but the therm may get to 450 or more due to the radiant heat from the coils or flame, we want to measure air temp so we must shield everything from radiant heat.

    if possible try and get a good digital thermometer, not a 12.99 internet chefs special. such examles are a micrometor which uses a probe type temperature sender, these are usually very accurate and they react to read the true temp within seconds, but they cost much more. these are all over the internet for sale.

    if you have certain newer models of stoves, consider yourself lucky. a maytag with the advanced cooking system, a whilpool with the accubake system, or a general electric with the true temp system(they write this visibly on the oven somewhere easily seen). these are superior in that as opposed to a conventional stove which will heat to 425 then 375 then 425 etc.. they will typically maintain the temp within about 5 degrees of where you set them to, so 400 degrees is 398 then 402 then 398, much much better.......

    all said and done, our test prop melted at 230 degrees instead of 244-251, what do we do? well, your thermometors were prob off or the air temp rose faster than the termometors could respond. or maybe you powder is unpure. regardless that would be close enough to know you still have test prop with a high level of confidence. this test will never be totally accurate but it gives us all a cheap at home way to feel confident were injecting what we think we are. if it melts WAY off, well time to talk to your source, but be confident your results are accurate before you rag on him.

    another method thats more accurate and i mentioned above is the probe type thermometer. you can simply sit there and wait till it melts, stick the tip of the probe into the melted liquid, and in a few seconds youll have an accurate temp. i recomend this way. get a probe thats designed for contact/liquid etc... and has a fast response time, there are diff types of probes and you dont wanna measure liquid with an air probe.

    ill cover this more in depth later, my fingers hurt like hell and i want a corona.

    UPDATE- since like mentioned above electric oven cycle on and off, and if set to 400 they will rise to 425 then go donw to 375 then back up to 425 etc... combine that with how most thermometers react very slow, this gives us a bad reading. you watch your hormone melt and then read the thermometer and it sais 410 degrees, but its actually 430 cause your thermometers react slower than the speed at which the air temp rises.

    what i do to combat this works really well. if you listen to your electric oven you will hear a faint click as it cycles on and again when it cycles off. this is the thermometor turning the heating element on and off. now lets say we are at 400d. we want to increase it by 5d so were at 405. so the oven turns on and the heating element heats up. the element gets hot and heats the air obviously, but by the time the hot air reaches the ovens thermometer, that element is very hot, probably red hot. ok so anyway the oven senses its now at 405, so it turns the element off. but this is the problem-that element is still red hot and is still heating the air, and will continue to heat the air hotter and hotter for a min or2-you can see our problem. now this wouldnt matter if our thermometers reacted fast, but they dont they are slow.

    so do this:
    your at 400
    turn the oven up like 50degrees, very soon or immediately you should hear a click, basically you want to know when the oven turns the heating element on. once it turns on(again youll usually hear a click) then count to 10, and turn the oven OFF. within a few minutes the air temp will have risen about 5 degrees, and your thermometers will show this. if it doesnt, repeat the process and this time count to 15 or 20, ovens vary so youll need to figure out what works for you.

    what happened is you just let the element turn on for a few seconds, just enough to get the element a little warmer, just enough to heat the air 5 degrees.

    this is much better than letting the oven turn itself off, cause if you do that you might end up as high as 440degrees! yikes! we only wanted to goto 405!

    so then to goto 410 just repeat this process again and again untill your powder melts.

    also a good practice to do, is once your powder melts, if your oven is not already turned off, then turn it off asap. then let things sit for a few min and see how high the temp goes. if you did things correctly the temp should not rise more than a few degress since you turned the oven off, or ideally it should not rise at all. so if your temp read 420 when the powder melted, and you turn the oven off, and 3 min later it reads 425, then your powder melted between 420 to 425d. but if it melted at 420, and then 3 min later your thermometers read 440, then you have no choice but to assume it melted somwhere in between, but thats a 20 degree guess-not very accurate.


    man i must be confusing the hell outta you guys lol, hope this makes sense.



    Androstanolone- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17b-OL-3-ONE
    (SAME AS 5a-Dihydrotestosterone)
    melting point= 177-182C

    molecular weight= 290.40

    rotation= +33 c=1 CHCL3


    Boldenone- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE

    melting point= 167-172C

    molecular weight= 286.40

    rotation= +22 CHCL3


    BOLDENONE UNDECLYNATE- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE-UNDECYLENATE

    melting point=

    molecular weight=

    rotation=


    CLOMIFENE CITRATE-2-(p- (2-chloro-1,2-diphenylvinyl)phenoxy) triethylamine citrate (1:1)

    melting point= 116.5C

    molecular weight= 598.09


    CLOSTEBOL- 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE

    melting point= 187-188C

    molecular weight= 322.89

    rotation= +150 CHLF


    DROSTANOLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-2a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
    (SAME AS DROMOSTANOLONE)

    melting point= 149-153C

    molecular weight= 304.36

    rotation= +32 MeOH


    LETROZOLE-4,4'-(1H-1,2,4 -Triazol-1-ylmethylene) dibenzonitrile

    melting point= 184-185C

    molecular weight= 285.31


    MESTEROLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-1a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE

    melting point= 202-206C

    molecular weight= 304.36

    rotation= =18 CHCL3


    METHANDIONONE- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17a-METHYL-17B-OL-3-ONE
    (SAME AS METHYLANDROSTENOLONE)

    melting point= 162-164C

    molecular weight= 300.42

    rotation= +0 CHCL3


    METHENOLONE- 1,5a-ANDROSTEN-1-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE

    melting point= 164-165C

    molecular weight=

    rotation= +58 CHLF


    METHYL TESTOSTERONE

    melting point= 162-167c

    molecular weight= 302.46


    NANDROLONE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE

    melting point= 122-125C

    molecular weight= 274.38

    rotation= +56 C=1 CHCL3


    NANDROLONE ACETATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE

    melting point= 89-93C

    molecular weight= 316.41

    rotation= +49 C=1 CHCL3


    NANDROLONE BENZOATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE

    melting point= 170-175C

    molecular weight= 378.49

    rotation= +104 C=1 CHCL3


    NANDROLONE DECANOATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-DECANOATE

    melting point= 30-35C

    molecular weight= 428.63

    rotation=


    NANDROLONE PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PHENYLPROPIONATE

    melting point= 92-96C

    molecular weight= 406.54

    rotation= +58 C=1 CHCL3


    NANDROLONE PROPIANATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE

    melting point= 55-60C

    molecular weight= 330.45

    rotation= +41 C=1 CHCL3


    OXANDROLONE-

    melting point= 235-238C


    OXYMETHOLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-2-
    HYDROXYMETHYLENE-3-ONE

    melting point= 177-180C

    molecular weight= 332.47

    rotation= +38 ETOH


    SPIRONOLACTONE- 4,17a-PREGNEN-21-CARBOXYLIC ACID-17b-OL-3-ONE-7a-THIOL 21-17 GAMMA LACTONE 7-ACETATE
    (SAME AS ALDACTONE)

    melting point= 207C

    molecular weight= 416-.59

    rotation=


    STANOZOLOL- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-3,
    2c-PYRAZOLE

    melting point prisms= 228-242C (235C)
    melting point needles= 155C

    molecular weight= 328.42

    rotation= +36 CHCL3


    TADALAFIL-

    melting point= 298-300C

    molecular weight= 389.41

    roatation= [a]20D: +70 DEG to +73 DEG


    TAMOXIFEN CITRATE- 2-[4-1,2-Diphenyl-1-Butenyl)

    melting point= 143-146C

    molecular weight= 563.65


    TESTOSTERONE BASE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE

    melting point= 154-155C

    molecular weight= 288.4

    rotation= +102 degrees C=1 CHCL3


    TESTOSTERONE ACETATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE

    melting point=140-144C

    molecular weight=330.45

    rotation= +59 C=1 ACETONE


    TESTOSTERONE BENZOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE

    melting point=191-196C

    molecular weight=392.52

    rotation= +155 C=1 CHCL3


    TESTOSTERONE CYPINATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE
    (SAME AS TESTOSTERONE CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE)

    melting point=98-102C

    molecular weight=412.59

    rotation= +87 C=1 CHCL3


    TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ENANTHATE
    (SAME AS TESTOSTERONE HEPTANOATE)

    melting point=32-36C

    molecular weight=400.61

    rotation= +84 C=1 CHCL3


    TESTOSETERONE DECANOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-n-DECANOATE

    melting point=47-49C

    molecular weight=

    rotation= +72 DIOXANE


    TESTOSTERONE ISOBUTYRATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ISOBUTYRATE

    melting point=124-128C

    molecular weight=358.50


    TESTOSTERONE ISOCAPRONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE ISOCAPRONATE

    melting point=53-55C

    rotation= +86 CHLF


    TESTOSTERONE VALERATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-VALERATE
    (SAME AS TESTOSTERONE PENTANOATE)

    melting point=106-109C

    molecular weight=372.53

    rotation= +92 C=1 CHCL3


    TESTOSTERONE PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 3-PHENYLPROPIONATE

    melting point=115-116C

    rotation= +98 CHLF


    TESTOSTERONE PROPIANATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE

    melting point=118-122C

    molecular weight=344.50

    rotation= +86 C=1 DIOXANE


    TESTOSTERONE UNDECANOATE- 4-Androsten-17b-ol-3-one 17-undecanoate

    melting point=

    molecular weight=

    rotation=


    TRENBOLONE ACETATE-

    melting point= 94-97C


    TRENBOLONE ENANTHATE-

    melting point= 72-78c


    TURINABOL- 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE

    melting point= 225-230C

    molecular weight= 364.89

    rotation= =118 CHCL3





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    good info heavy
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    I have found it easy to obtain Tren pellets for conversion, but is there an easy way to get a testosterone powder?

    I will make my own if it there is less chance of getting caught.

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    I remember I used to use this exact same chart way back in the day. Mr T's Super Solvent. LOL Now that's old school.

    Since that post was originally made ,"The Iron Chef" has made a few discoveries.

    1. One of the major factor in pain management of compounds is oil choices.

    I've found that a mixture of a very light oil, the finest being organic mustard seed oil 60% to 40% Pure Jamaican organic soy oil a kind of heavy oil. Acki oil is also super light and works well with make'n oil based winny pretty comfortable injects.

    2.Organic oils are more expensive but much better for you ( and your compounds) all the way around

    3. Most orals that are put into solution with PGA can remain in solution when diluted with distilled water, which means you can make concentrates and not have to have that PGA taste and have solutions ready to be made into larger amounts at any time.Example using Clebuterol in this case

    1) Take 1g powder and dissolve in 49ml of PGA. Add heat to speed up the process.
    2) Take 1 ml of this solution and mix with 199ml of Water. This will give you 100mcg/ml.

    You can make ANY oral solution into concentrates.Some will require a couple of ingredients depend'n on the compound. ALSO Papaya concentrate can be using in oral solution not only as a flavor enhancer, but because of it natural enzyme you can use less PEG as a stabilizer. I recognize these oral conversions as something way back in the day from "Lozgod's Liquid Oral Solutions. They are solid but a bit dated but great for a begin'n "chef ".

    There are quite a few updates since that was printed like Oil based winny, Oil based suspension, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Also,all you new "chemists" be wary of the 5% BA in these recipes.You only need to use 2% BA in most cases.Example : 2% BA/20 % BB with making prop
    Totally agree. Was going to post the same. And alot of times you can get by with half that BB also.
    I also like grapeseed oil better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorZ06 View Post
    Great post Heavy...shall we make this a sticky?

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    grapeseed oil helps with my prop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saney View Post
    I wish somebody would teach me how to make this shit... I'd love to be able to make it
    Just read and follow the directions or ask a specific question....





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    the podwer recipes are from harvey Balboner He made a mistake on the deca's and these were copied before the correction

    they should read (outlined in bold)


    Deca for 5 grams
    needed
    5 grams powder
    16.25ml sesame oil
    1.25ml BA 5%
    3.75ml BB 15%
    Syringes
    Vial
    Sterile Vial
    Whatman sterile filter

    1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
    2. Place powder in vial.
    3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
    4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
    5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
    6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
    7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
    8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
    9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
    10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.
    Makes 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml



    Deca for 10 grams
    needed
    10 grams powder
    32.50 ml sesame oil
    2.5ml BA 5%
    7.50ml BB 15%
    Syringes
    Vial
    Sterile Vial
    Whatman sterile filter

    1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
    2. Place powder in vial.
    3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
    4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
    5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
    6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
    7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
    8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
    9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
    10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.
    Makes 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml

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    Quote Originally Posted by basskiller View Post
    the podwer recipes are from harvey Balboner He made a mistake on the deca's and these were copied before the correction

    they should read (outlined in bold)


    Deca for 5 grams
    needed
    5 grams powder
    16.25ml sesame oil
    1.25ml BA 5%
    3.75ml BB 15%
    Syringes
    Vial
    Sterile Vial
    Whatman sterile filter

    1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
    2. Place powder in vial.
    3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
    4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
    5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
    6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
    7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
    8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
    9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
    10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.
    Makes 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml



    Deca for 10 grams
    needed
    10 grams powder
    32.50 ml sesame oil
    2.5ml BA 5%
    7.50ml BB 15%
    Syringes
    Vial
    Sterile Vial
    Whatman sterile filter

    1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
    2. Place powder in vial.
    3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
    4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
    5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
    6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
    7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
    8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
    9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
    10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.
    Makes 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml

    Nice, Thanks for catching that! Since all the BA's are too high we should rewrite these at some point.





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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Nice, Thanks for catching that! Since all the BA's are too high we should rewrite these at some point.
    agreed!!!! These were written around 2003 when everyone really didn't know as much as we do now.. back then only a few were doing their home brew thing and worried more about abcess. That 5% is what more than a few of the kit makers used as their magic solution (straight BA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by basskiller View Post
    agreed!!!! These were written around 2003 when everyone really didn't know as much as we do now.. back then only a few were doing their home brew thing and worried more about abcess. That 5% is what more than a few of the kit makers used as their magic solution (straight BA)

    What are you running your BA at these days? 2%?





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    I read at another forum that you can get away with just using BA and not using any BB.

    Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BTB View Post
    I read at another forum that you can get away with just using BA and not using any BB.

    Is this true?
    If you up the BA % to make up for BB, you run the risk of more pain. BB acts as a solvent and will help stability and hold it in solution.




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    thanks for that bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    What are you running your BA at these days? 2%?
    yes sir!
    2% BA and 18%BB when needed It makes for a nice round 20% mixture. That I've found will work with anything except the base powders like winny, test, d-bol etc
    Cypionate can always be tricky though.. Never have figered that one out.. Usually the shock from heat to cold makes it crash.. so leaving it in the oven and letting the oven's heat dissapate slowly keeps the cyp from crashing as easily

    Items such as Test enanthate you can use almost no BB while still keeping the BA at 2%

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    Great post and thread. I've never attempted this, but I have seen it done a couple times. Sticky would be great. Thanks Heavyiron.

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