Cemproducts.com

          Follow Us on Facebook        Subscribe to us on YouTube        Follow Us on Twitter        IronMagLabs on Instagram        Sign Up for our Newsletter


Newbie needing some advise

Results 1 to 25 of 25
  1. #1
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    Newbie needing some advise






    Please someone help me out here... i need help on what kind of cycle to run for my first... any advice or help?

  2. #2
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    I am actually trying to cut up and gain lean muscle mass at same time.. my body fat % is a little high and i wanna cut that down some... anything to help me with that??

  3. #3
    Junior Member


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    LAND OF BABES
    Posts
    69
    Rep Points
    154333

    before following the under written , u shld hv a natural training exp. of atleast 2 yrs.

    man i used dbol cycle week 1-4 20-30 mg then week 5-6 tarpe down 300,20,15

    then , a clomid pct 100/50/50

    hv lost of protein and stop eating fatty food , drink lots of water

    this is ur first cycle , u need not to worry about gyno and all thats

    i had 10 dbol only cycles ,in past , all were fine , only now i started injctables.


    good luck.

  4. #4
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    do you think that i should be using something like winny to help me cut some.. I have been training for a lil over 2 years.. but the last thing i wanna get is gyno.. is there any sites you would recommend to use for getting the gear?

  5. #5
    Pin2win


    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Texas, USA
    Posts
    757
    Rep Points
    4572053

    Quote Originally Posted by sar012977 View Post
    do you think that i should be using something like winny to help me cut some.. I have been training for a lil over 2 years.. but the last thing i wanna get is gyno.. is there any sites you would recommend to use for getting the gear?
    A winny only cycle will blow.

    Man up and pin some test.

  6. #6
    Junior Member


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    LAND OF BABES
    Posts
    69
    Rep Points
    154333

    No winni , is a no no + , when u come off an aas cycle , u will see 1-2 months after that u tend to lose some weight , so u get cut naturally , dont opt for winni now , this may terrify you , but i hv to tell.

    winni orals are very hard on the liver , if i say very i mean very ....
    Nothing will protect ur liver from it , i hv seen ppl doing evething , but
    never did their liver values came down

    and

    now winni inj. , these are too painful for a first timer + at times the nedle jams and u hv to poke urself a couple of times , aftr that a week of long ass pain in inj. Site .

    winni is too costly + u may suffer from joint pains when on it .

    I hv seen this happening for many years , the thing which amazes me is that ppl still go for it .

    an easy way out , for cuting cycle , use test propionate at 200 mg per week for 6 week

    it dsnt aromatize much and will give u good lean mass .

    Dont fear needle , i completed my first inj. Cycle yesterday , use a 25g needle to inj. , you wont even know a prick

    for administration of im inj. , tons of videos on youtube , it helped me a lot .

    Good luck

  7. #7
    Junior Member


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    LAND OF BABES
    Posts
    69
    Rep Points
    154333

    I GET ALL MY GEAR FROM AN IMPORTER FROM THAILAND , REAL GOOD SHIT

    TRUSTED BRANDS > THAIGER , GLOBAL ANABOLICS AND MARCH PHARMA

    FOR U , i wld tel www dot thai-steroidsdirect dot com

    some ppl i know buy from here , good stuff ,low prices , i think they will give discount on big orders.

    but getting through customs is a tedious task , get a prescription first , if u cant

    leave everthing to god


    be careful , custom ppl are very tricky , always watch ur back.

    or simply , firstly get to a supplement dealer in ur area and i can bet 100% that , he would tell u where to go for gear

    SECRET ALL SUPPLEMENT DEALERS AND STEROID DEALERS , THEY R ONE .

    JUST FIND A SUPPLEMENT DEALER , BUY SOMETHING FROM HIM , THN ASK FOR GEAR , HE WILL TELL U , WORKS EVERY TIME .

  8. #8
    Sssssssssssssss


    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    california
    Posts
    260
    Rep Points
    7597772

    yea first cycle you should look into test only, followed by pct of clomid and nolva, thats all you need, understand how your body reacts to one compound before you start with multiple compounds.

  9. #9
    Junior Member


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    LAND OF BABES
    Posts
    69
    Rep Points
    154333

    USE TEST CYPIONATE 100/100/200/200/200/200/100/100/100

    THIS WILL GIVE U 20-30 LBS. OF MASS , WITH GOOD DIET , TRAIN. & REST

    KEEP NOLVA AND AIs in hand , just i case .

  10. #10
    Registered User
    jcar1016's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    IN
    Posts
    1,245
    Rep Points
    10972157

    Quote Originally Posted by noormuscle View Post
    No winni , is a no no + , when u come off an aas cycle , u will see 1-2 months after that u tend to lose some weight , so u get cut naturally , dont opt for winni now , this may terrify you , but i hv to tell.

    winni orals are very hard on the liver , if i say very i mean very ....
    Nothing will protect ur liver from it , i hv seen ppl doing evething , but
    never did their liver values came down

    and

    now winni inj. , these are too painful for a first timer + at times the nedle jams and u hv to poke urself a couple of times , aftr that a week of long ass pain in inj. Site .

    winni is too costly + u may suffer from joint pains when on it .

    I hv seen this happening for many years , the thing which amazes me is that ppl still go for it .

    an easy way out , for cuting cycle , use test propionate at 200 mg per week for 6 week

    it dsnt aromatize much and will give u good lean mass .

    Dont fear needle , i completed my first inj. Cycle yesterday , use a 25g needle to inj. , you wont even know a prick

    for administration of im inj. , tons of videos on youtube , it helped me a lot .

    Good luck
    Quote Originally Posted by noormuscle View Post
    I GET ALL MY GEAR FROM AN IMPORTER FROM THAILAND , REAL GOOD SHIT

    TRUSTED BRANDS > THAIGER , GLOBAL ANABOLICS AND MARCH PHARMA

    FOR U , i wld tel www dot thai-steroidsdirect dot com

    some ppl i know buy from here , good stuff ,low prices , i think they will give discount on big orders.

    but getting through customs is a tedious task , get a prescription first , if u cant

    leave everthing to god

    be careful , custom ppl are very tricky , always watch ur back.

    or simply , firstly get to a supplement dealer in ur area and i can bet 100% that , he would tell u where to go for gear

    SECRET ALL SUPPLEMENT DEALERS AND STEROID DEALERS , THEY R ONE .

    JUST FIND A SUPPLEMENT DEALER , BUY SOMETHING FROM HIM , THN ASK FOR GEAR , HE WILL TELL U , WORKS EVERY TIME .
    Listen bro I've sat back and watched ya ramble on an on and something has become clear. Just a couple days ago you were asking for advise and now your giving it you also said on another thread you buy your gear OTC Test Prop dosent really aromatize much? Really? 200mg a week of Testosterone? Again really? Listen respectfully you dont know what your talking about and you should stop. People come here for good advise so Ima give you some...Just sit back watch the board and learn some stuff before ya get someone killed. Have a good day
    World Domination = TREN

  11. #11
    Registered User
    nd2bhge's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    east coast
    Posts
    172
    Rep Points
    1718455

    x2

    as i was reading i was like someone has to jump in here,
    jcar is 100% right on the money. please dont give advice that you dont have experience with, even then there are plenty of good vets on hear to help people out. leave it to them, read, and learn!!!

  12. #12
    Junior Member


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    LAND OF BABES
    Posts
    69
    Rep Points
    154333

    ok , whtever u tell , u boss

    i tell wht i know from my exp.

    yes i can GET stuff from OTC , i live in INDIA LAWS R DIFFERENT HERE .

    YES I HV SEEN PPL WHO HV USED TEST P ON CUTTING CYCLE AT 200MG

    U DONT BELIEVE IT DONT U , OK IM NOT HERE TO FIGHT



    I MEAN NO OFFENCE TO NO ONE .
    Last edited by noormuscle; 06-25-2010 at 01:32 PM.

  13. #13
    Junior Member


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    LAND OF BABES
    Posts
    69
    Rep Points
    154333

    hey who edited my post

  14. #14
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    yes please dont anyone give me f'd up advice.. I am new and dont wanna really get a bad taste the first time around...

    is there any vets that can seriously help me out here??

  15. #15
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    germany
    Posts
    36
    Rep Points
    3953

    Quote Originally Posted by sar012977 View Post
    yes please dont anyone give me f'd up advice.. I am new and dont wanna really get a bad taste the first time around...

    is there any vets that can seriously help me out here??

    dude, just read the stickys on this forum, figure out your own cycle, and then ask the vets here to critque cycle,

  16. #16
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    Quote Originally Posted by be_rad01 View Post
    dude, just read the stickys on this forum, figure out your own cycle, and then ask the vets here to critque cycle,

    gotcha... been working on that for the past couple of days and doing alot of reading and working out... thanks will repost a cycle after i figure out... its just my first time and i am trying to figure out whats the best thats all... not being experienced with it, thats why i asked??

  17. #17
    THE WAR PIG
    SUPER MODERATOR
    XYZ's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    IM
    Posts
    5,443
    Rep Points
    2147483647

    Quote Originally Posted by sar012977 View Post
    I am actually trying to cut up and gain lean muscle mass at same time.. my body fat % is a little high and i wanna cut that down some... anything to help me with that??
    Yeah, diet and cardio.

  18. #18
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    California
    Posts
    6
    Rep Points
    10

    Drop your BF a bit first. Trust me you will be grateful that you have done this as you will see the gains a lot better with a lower BF. Once you have done this look into DBOL 30mg per day cycle no need to taper up or down or if you want to go for the injection route (which I would advise) then do a bit research into a basic test cycle around 500mg per week for 10-12 weeks followed by a solid PCT

    Hope this helps

  19. #19
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    Thanks guys. I know body fat has to be lower.. what range would be a good time to start.. prolly below 20 or 15

  20. #20
    Registered User
    ELITE MEMBER
    sar012977's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    EAST COAST
    Posts
    232
    Rep Points
    9511865

    also mastermind, man i been reading alot of reviews and comments to get my gear and have no idea.. i have a dude i kno that can et get gear but he is unreliable, so i can consider that not a place to be able to get it.... I want to get it all before i start so i have it on hand.. and ready.. any suggest??

  21. #21
    THE WAR PIG
    SUPER MODERATOR
    XYZ's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    IM
    Posts
    5,443
    Rep Points
    2147483647

    Quote Originally Posted by noormuscle View Post
    hey who edited my post
    Your posts are dangerous and reckless. YOU SHOULD NOT BE GIVING ANY OPINIONS ABOUT GEAR. We are talking about altering your hormones here, this is serious and does have consequences if not done correctly. Please do some research and stop giving out poor advice. Thank you.

  22. #22
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    14
    Rep Points
    39858

    I wouldve posted a link to a fantastic thread on this forum but my post count is low so w/e.

    I am also about to do my first cycle and nothing at all that I've read matched with what that guy up there was saying.

    This is a sample I found which is basically going to be the cycle I'm planning on running.


    Week 1-5 600mg Testosterone weekly
    Week 6-8 800mg Testosterone weekly
    Week 9-10 1 gram Testosterone weekly

    10 mg Aromasin daily with the goal of keeping Estradiol between 10pg/ml-25pg/ml. Only blood work can confirm if you are in this range.

    500iu HCG twice weekly.
    **************************************************
    PCT:
    Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your testes are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG eod.)

    100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3)

    20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)

    3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses



    I do have a few questions for other users.
    1. After my last injection what day do I start pct
    2. How many days apart should I space the injections
    3. Im confused between the differences between cypionate, enanthate, and propiate (sp?) and which would be most effective/best for first cycle.

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    BOARD REP


    Join Date
    May 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    mexico
    Posts
    3,603
    Rep Points
    101711235

    if your 25 or older heres wat i would do read alot to get familiar with the different names and first time cycles. then cardio, diet, lower bf%. never start winni for first cycle. try test cyp or test e 500mg 1 x wk for 12 weeks. get correct injection info. then have a solid pct as clomid and hcg , but u can run hcg during your first cycle. start the hcg at 250ius 2xs wk. after 2 wks into cycle. good luck. if under 25 dont take any my advice use whey protein, bcaas. peace brother.


    website: www.1mexgear.com/store

    all information given is fictional and only for entertainment purposes only. it is legal to use performance enhancement medications where i live. please seek medical advice before using any performance drug, and only if its legal in your country.

  24. #24
    Registered User
    Mr.BTB's Avatar


    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Auz
    Posts
    948
    Rep Points
    23378451

    I agree with what Unclem said.


    I would go with a board sponser that alot of these guys have tried and know are safe. My first option would be buying legit gear otc if you can.

    Be smart brother

  25. #25
    Registered User
    Mr.BTB's Avatar


    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Auz
    Posts
    948
    Rep Points
    23378451






    why in the fuck is noormuscle not getting a ban of some sort? I wil bet any money he is getting free gear from that palce or he has some money interest in it and us using boards to advertise in his posts.

    There is no need for him to say what brands, he can just says I used testosterone or dbol.

    Just my 2 cents anyway,

Similar Threads

  1. Newbie needing some advise
    By sar012977 in forum New Members Begin Here!
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-24-2010, 12:50 PM
  2. newbie needing advice
    By cogv6 in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-01-2007, 09:38 PM
  3. Newbie needing help
    By Peasnall in forum Diet & Nutrition
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-20-2005, 03:32 PM
  4. Newbie needing help....
    By JCH in forum Supplements
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-17-2004, 09:42 AM
  5. Newbie needing help with new training split
    By Ralphie in forum Training
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 03-28-2003, 10:32 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
DISABLED END -->