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    wait isnt America the 3rd roman empire?

    i mean america is pretty much all the sons of Europe in one huge large land empire with the biggest shit just sayin



    will we have the same fate as rome tho?

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    According to the broiology, usa will drown in its bullshit.

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    As a dual citizen of the two great empires, america and china this is my take.

    China seemingly growing in economic power because we have not wasted the majority of our national budget on wars that cannot be easily won. We have concentrated on it internally. Although we are a powerhouse of generating legions of scientific and mathmatical saavy citizens, I don't think our country can indoctrinate inventiveness like my adopted county America. Although, in the latter, we are not generating the educated legions of scientists that are needed to advance society further with new products, which in turn, generate new exporting goods, which in turn, feed our economic engine. We import basic scientists from India and china and europe and turkey and train them in our educational system, but now we are losing them as they return to their countries which are rising in economic power. We are no longer a country that produces much of anything, but we are still a culture of great improvisation and problem solving.

    The sleeping giant is India and Russia. The former, the largest democracy with citizens indoctrinated with both a culture of enterprising citizens and scientific know-how. Unlike china, they produce legions of scientifically saavy citizens but also promote free thinking enterprise like America. As for russia, just look for george freidman's take on stratfor, he is more eloquent than I could ever be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
    We are no longer a country that produces much of anything,
    The toyota camry and honda accord are over 90% made in America. I think your statement is a bit of a fallacy about the USA. We still produce quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    The toyota camry and honda accord are over 90% made in America. I think your statement is a bit of a fallacy about the USA. We still produce quite a bit.
    I would not count on our car industry to enhance our export economy or prevent the continual decline .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandaidwoman View Post
    I would not count on our car industry to enhance our export economy or prevent the continual decline .....
    im not counting on it to do either. i'm simply using it as an easily understood counter example to your statement that the united states doesn't produce anything anymore. I tend to believe the US is on a downward slide. I would point to very different indicators however.
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    I think we are talking two different things. What I meant was that we don't produce anything new in terms of recent innovative technology like we used to. Yes there is the Ipad etc. but it is on the very generation that was produced during Bill Gates era. We are still riding on the coattails of our past achievements. And lest we remember that the coattails were on the backs of foreign basic scientists in chemistry, physics etc , a majority of whom are foreign nationals going back to their respective countries. IN almost all research labs I worked at I was one of maybe a handful of americans ( naturilzed one at that) in a sea of asians, europeans, indians, turks etc.

    It is a bottom up disintigration. Those of us at the bottom, basic research scientists supported the top heavy industries managed brilliantly by americans. But now that base is crumbling. I believe the best way this country can get back on track is to invest in homegrown american scientists, since america is a place where we can thrive the best yet we are losing. the top 6 out of 12 pharmaceutical companies are now european, we used to command the top 10.

    I am selfish that america must succeed, because despite China's brilliance in forging ahead as a super world power, we are symbiotically tied in to america's success. We aren't buying up your bonds to own America, ( although it looks like it doesn't it?) but because we must help america survive. Ironically, as a twin along with my dual citizenship , I feel that we are twin countries with different personalities, just like my sis and I.

    I would not compare america to rome in one very important regard. America has from its birth been a highly innovative, non stagnant society capable of problem solving better than most I believe. But I am prejudiced, since I am an American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiGiTaL View Post
    According to the broiology, usa will drown in its bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_BROSKI View Post
    i mean america is pretty much all the sons of Europe in one huge large land empire with the biggest shit just sayin



    will we have the same fate as rome tho?
    It sure does look that way. As someone mentioned earlier, we have very little in the way of science and technology anymore. I was just reading an article not too long ago that about 70 to 80 percent (I can't recall) of university students in fields like biology,chemistry, engineering, and math (all the hard stuff I stayed away from, lol) are not from the US. Even when I look at my friends in college (Many of them from India, Pakistan, E. Turkistan (the Xinjiang region of China), Ukraine, Iran, Gulf countries) they all had majors dealing with science and tech. I was the only history major in the group.

    Isn't that what a successful and powerful nation is made of? We don't have that anymore and if we don't do something about it the world will look at us in a different way 10 years from now. I don't see Obama doing anything about it (or about anything for that matter), so we'll see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal123 View Post
    It sure does look that way. As someone mentioned earlier, we have very little in the way of science and technology anymore. I was just reading an article not too long ago that about 70 to 80 percent (I can't recall) of university students in fields like biology,chemistry, engineering, and math (all the hard stuff I stayed away from, lol) are not from the US. Even when I look at my friends in college (Many of them from India, Pakistan, E. Turkistan (the Xinjiang region of China), Ukraine, Iran, Gulf countries) they all had majors dealing with science and tech. I was the only history major in the group.

    Isn't that what a successful and powerful nation is made of? We don't have that anymore and if we don't do something about it the world will look at us in a different way 10 years from now. I don't see Obama doing anything about it (or about anything for that matter), so we'll see what happens.

    did u guys ever look at this country as a string a that got into a bunch of knots like really knoted and FUCK-ED up knoghts where its like impossible and takes you 20 minutes to get un-tied to where the point maybe the only best way to fix is a new shoe lace ( revolution) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal123 View Post
    It sure does look that way. As someone mentioned earlier, we have very little in the way of science and technology anymore. I was just reading an article not too long ago that about 70 to 80 percent (I can't recall) of university students in fields like biology,chemistry, engineering, and math (all the hard stuff I stayed away from, lol) are not from the US. Even when I look at my friends in college (Many of them from India, Pakistan, E. Turkistan (the Xinjiang region of China), Ukraine, Iran, Gulf countries) they all had majors dealing with science and tech. I was the only history major in the group.

    Isn't that what a successful and powerful nation is made of? We don't have that anymore and if we don't do something about it the world will look at us in a different way 10 years from now. I don't see Obama doing anything about it (or about anything for that matter), so we'll see what happens.
    I think a fix would be to forgive any student loans if an american majors in a basic science and actually enters the field. If a physics major owes as much as a business grad who later goes on to get a high level managerial job, it's no surprise our best business schools are being populated by disenchanted science majors who used to grovel for limited NIH grants to support their research.
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