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    HGH and torn Rotator Cuff

    Perhaps some expert here will have some insights. I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet that addresses this issue directly. My question is this: regarding a torn rotator cuff, or any other type of muscle/ligament injury, is it beneficial to inject HGH directly into the injured area, using a slin pin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    Perhaps some expert here will have some insights. I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet that addresses this issue directly. My question is this: regarding a torn rotator cuff, or any other type of muscle/ligament injury, is it beneficial to inject HGH directly into the injured area, using a slin pin?
    IGF-1 would be a better choice than GH--b/c the usefulness of the GH would be the the production of IGF-1.

    otherwise igf-1 build tendons and promote recovering tissue but not a remedy for injury's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grozny View Post
    IGF-1 would be a better choice than GH--b/c the usefulness of the GH would be the the production of IGF-1.

    otherwise igf-1 build tendons and promote recovering tissue but not a remedy for injury's

    Once GH hits the liver it becomes IGF-1 so what's the difference? GH will help with recovery.

    In the case of site specific injections..............I don't believe it matters. I have yet to read any type of useful information which states otherwise

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    Thanks CT That supports what I've read too except for a couple of intriguing references to pro sports (who aren't saying much) doing it. Just for heck of it I injected at RC pain epicenter last night and will continue to see if it helps. I'm also looking into Platlette Rich Plasma injection pending MRI

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    Agree on the Site specific not mattering as it still has to be processed by the liver

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    Thanks CT That supports what I've read too except for a couple of intriguing references to pro sports (who aren't saying much) doing it. Just for heck of it I injected at RC pain epicenter last night and will continue to see if it helps. I'm also looking into Platlette Rich Plasma injection pending MRI
    wat is that T? the platlette injection? does that offer red blood cells xrtra, for better healing? just a guess but would like to know of it. thnx T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclem View Post
    wat is that T? the platlette injection? does that offer red blood cells xrtra, for better healing? just a guess but would like to know of it. thnx T.
    Yeah, look it up, it's called PRP therapy, apparently a lot of big money athletes, including Tiger Woods, suing it to heal faster.

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    thats good to know never heard of that one. thunder might know if the name of the drug there using for anemia now but bbers and cyclists are using it. anybody got a clue to the name? i forgot the name its expensive and showing up on some of the bbing price sheets. anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    Once GH hits the liver it becomes IGF-1 so what's the difference? GH will help with recovery.

    In the case of site specific injections..............I don't believe it matters. I have yet to read any type of useful information which states otherwise
    lol difference is that somatropin only stimulate the production of igf-1 ,but does not transform in igf . otherwise liver can only produce a limited concentrations of amount of igf-1 this is why direct injection of igf-1 will make a large contrast.

    More research :
    Journal of endocrinology.
    Journal of Molecular Endocrinology.
    Endocrinology.
    Endocrine Journal.
    Endocrine Research.
    Hormone and Metabolic Research.
    Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism.
    Hormone Research. Books, Internet, etc etc.

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    Before you consider these options.

    What have you done to correct the action, that caused the tear in the first place?

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    in this case if u want to use somatropin to stimulates producton of igf-1 by the liver u need to add to your rhGH, some t3 thryoid hormones and slin in this case better and cheaper choice is to use directly igf-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
    Before you consider these options.

    What have you done to correct the action, that caused the tear in the first place?
    PLayed baseball (not Commie softball) for many years, was throwing a heavy castnet five months ago and major ripping sensation. Doing recovery exercises daily in pool; MRI in two weeks, but would prefer to dodge a surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    PLayed baseball (not Commie softball) for many years, was throwing a heavy castnet five months ago and major ripping sensation. Doing recovery exercises daily in pool; MRI in two weeks, but would prefer to dodge a surgery.

    What position did you play?

    I went through with surgery on my shoulder (torn Labrum) almost 2 yrs ago now. Was a pitcher growing up.

    Throwing can lead to many movement deficiencies in the shoulder. Something to consider.

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    Catcher/Pitcher, played in men's senior league world series every year up until three years ago. Re: HGH, on the AF forum, recommended to me by someone here, a guy just posted he had three miserable years with Rotator Cuff pain, started pinning HGH at site three mos ago, now 100% better. RC pain is so sudden, intense it's hard to believe there could be some psychosomatic placebo effect, even if HGH does have to pass through liver to raise IGF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grozny View Post
    lol difference is that somatropin only stimulate the production of igf-1 ,but does not transform in igf . otherwise liver can only produce a limited concentrations of amount of igf-1 this is why direct injection of igf-1 will make a large contrast.

    More research :
    Journal of endocrinology.
    Journal of Molecular Endocrinology.
    Endocrinology.
    Endocrine Journal.
    Endocrine Research.
    Hormone and Metabolic Research.
    Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism.
    Hormone Research. Books, Internet, etc etc.

    GH converts to IGF-1 once it hits the liver. IGF-1 will not make a difference. GH is the superior choice.

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