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    Tren/Test/Winstrol Cycle input

    Hey guys,

    I've been browsing aorund and you guys seem to be the most impartial of the boards ive seen. I was hoping to get some input into my cycle, particularly the PCT. Im planning on an 8 week Tren A/ Test Prop/ Winstrol cycle.

    My stats:
    23yrs
    237 lbs
    6'2 ft.
    ~11% bf
    Currently following a paleo style diet between 3000-3500 calories a day ~ 40% protein 35% fat 25% carbs which has worked well for me so far.

    Im currently training twice a day, 5 days a week for about 45mins-1hour each workout. I've been lifting solidly for ~5 years. Previously I followed a pl programme that had me in the gym ~2.5 hours a day.

    My current 1rm's are

    Bench: 420
    Squat: 580
    Deadlift: 605

    This will be my third cycle. Im looking to do a lean mass/ strength cycle and was planning on the following

    weeks 1-8 100mg Tren A Eod
    weeks 1-8 100mg Test Prop Eod
    weeks 5-8 50mg Winstrol Ed
    weeks 1-8 0.5mg Anastrozole ED
    weeks 5-7 500ui HCG ED
    Weeks 1-8 0.5mg Dostinex E3D

    PCT starting 3 days after last tren/test injection
    Day 1 200mg Clomid
    Days 2-11 60mg Clomid
    Days 12-21 40mg Clomid

    Any input is appreciated, thanks.

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    This looks good to me - you seem like a beast as it is with those numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Hey guys,

    This will be my third cycle. Im looking to do a lean mass/ strength cycle and was planning on the following

    weeks 1-8 100mg Tren A Eod
    weeks 1-8 100mg Test Prop Eod
    weeks 5-8 50mg Winstrol Ed
    weeks 1-8 0.5mg Anastrozole ED
    weeks 5-7 500ui HCG ED
    Weeks 1-8 0.5mg Dostinex E3D

    PCT starting 3 days after last tren/test injection
    Day 1 200mg Clomid
    Days 2-11 60mg Clomid
    Days 12-21 40mg Clomid

    Any input is appreciated, thanks.
    Looks good to me. I have a few questions.
    1. Is your Winny oral or IM? I would run a few weeks longer in cycle. If you do that I would start out at week 3 at 50mg for 3 weeks then last 3 weeks up to 100mg ed. Hope you don't get joint pain!! You are a big guy and could be an issue.
    2. 0.5mg Anastrozole ED is an anti-estrogen correct? If so, why none of these compounds convert into estrogen. Why waste good money save for bulk cycle. But I might stand corrected on this so others for input would be great.
    3. Dostinex have no idea about what that is or used for. any help?
    4. I run my clomid diff. but same idea.
    Overall looks good and good luck.

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    Dostinex for progesterone induced gyno - good call

    and test prop will aromatise so keep that anastrozole in their bro.

    if your winny is inj then why not run it throughout? if not last 4 weeks.
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    I have never had test prop. aromatise in my system at 100mg EOD but all bodies are diff. I would keep on hand just in case you start to fell the itch, soreness, and etc.. IMO it's a waste unless you start to have gyno systems. Also I never had effects at that low level like water retention, acne, and etc...

    Thanks for the update with Dostinex

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    Thanks for the feedback guys!

    The winstrol is oral.Im using it for the SHGB lowering effect over the injectible version, though im a little hesistant to run orals for any lengthy period but i could bump it to 4 weeks if you think itd be beneficial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Thanks for the feedback guys!

    The winstrol is oral.Im using it for the SHGB lowering effect over the injectible version, though im a little hesistant to run orals for any lengthy period but i could bump it to 4 weeks if you think itd be beneficial?

    Oral or injectable winstrol - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE in what it does. They BOTH work and do the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Hey guys,

    I've been browsing aorund and you guys seem to be the most impartial of the boards ive seen. I was hoping to get some input into my cycle, particularly the PCT. Im planning on an 8 week Tren A/ Test Prop/ Winstrol cycle.

    My stats:
    23yrs
    237 lbs
    6'2 ft.
    ~11% bf
    Currently following a paleo style diet between 3000-3500 calories a day ~ 40% protein 35% fat 25% carbs which has worked well for me so far.

    Im currently training twice a day, 5 days a week for about 45mins-1hour each workout. I've been lifting solidly for ~5 years. Previously I followed a pl programme that had me in the gym ~2.5 hours a day.

    My current 1rm's are

    Bench: 420
    Squat: 580
    Deadlift: 605

    This will be my third cycle. Im looking to do a lean mass/ strength cycle and was planning on the following

    weeks 1-8 100mg Tren A Eod
    weeks 1-8 100mg Test Prop Eod
    weeks 5-8 50mg Winstrol Ed
    weeks 1-8 0.5mg Anastrozole ED
    weeks 5-7 500ui HCG ED
    Weeks 1-8 0.5mg Dostinex E3D

    PCT starting 3 days after last tren/test injection
    Day 1 200mg Clomid
    Days 2-11 60mg Clomid
    Days 12-21 40mg Clomid

    Any input is appreciated, thanks.
    You're a little young to be running gear but I'm not your dad so.......

    It looks fine the only things I would change would be runnuing the tren and prop ED as opposed to EOD. There are less sides and more stable blood levels.

    Run the adex and caber an additional 10 days after you stop the injections to be sure all of the extra progest. and estrogen are gone. You can run the adex at the same dose but EOD and the caber twice overall.

    Start the HCG from week one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Thanks for the feedback guys!

    The winstrol is oral.Im using it for the SHGB lowering effect over the injectible version, though im a little hesistant to run orals for any lengthy period but i could bump it to 4 weeks if you think itd be beneficial?
    don't forget to watch your HDL:LDL ratio when on cycle with winny..most likely it (HDL) will be in the crapper for months post cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    Oral or injectable winstrol - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE in what it does. They BOTH work and do the same thing.
    Thanks, I realise they're the same compound, but an article i read seemed to indicate the SHGB lowering effect was a product of how the oral was metabolised in the liver. "A fairly conservative oral dose of .2mg/kg of Winstrol has been shown to lower SHBG by close to 50%. (8)"

    it wont let me post the link, but this is the article:

    Winstrol - Oral versus Injectible (More Different Than You Think!) By Anthony Roberts

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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Thanks, I realise they're the same compound, but an article i read seemed to indicate the SHGB lowering effect was a product of how the oral was metabolised in the liver. "A fairly conservative oral dose of .2mg/kg of Winstrol has been shown to lower SHBG by close to 50%. (8)"

    it wont let me post the link, but this is the article:

    Winstrol - Oral versus Injectible (More Different Than You Think!) By Anthony Roberts
    I'd go with CT's advice here. Tren is always a winner for me. Great strength gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    You're a little young to be running gear but I'm not your dad so.......

    It looks fine the only things I would change would be runnuing the tren and prop ED as opposed to EOD. There are less sides and more stable blood levels.

    Run the adex and caber an additional 10 days after you stop the injections to be sure all of the extra progest. and estrogen are gone. You can run the adex at the same dose but EOD and the caber twice overall.

    Start the HCG from week one.
    Thanks!

    Ill change to 50mg injection ED and make the modifications to my PCT!

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    So modified cycle looks lke this:

    weeks 1-8 50mg Tren A Ed
    weeks 1-8 50mg Test Prop Ed
    weeks 4-8 50mg Winstrol Ed
    weeks 1-8 0.5mg Anastrozole ED
    weeks 1-7 500ui HCG ED *
    Weeks 1-8 0.5mg Dostinex E3D

    PCT starting 3 days after last tren/test injection
    Day 1 200mg Clomid
    Days 2-11 60mg Clomid
    Days 12-21 40mg Clomid
    Days 1-10 0.5mg Anastrozole Eod
    Day 3 and 7 0.5mg Dostinex

    * Im finishing HCG in the 7th week to ensure its out of the system by the time i start PCT to prevent suppression of nat test production

    That look better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Thanks, I realise they're the same compound, but an article i read seemed to indicate the SHGB lowering effect was a product of how the oral was metabolised in the liver. "A fairly conservative oral dose of .2mg/kg of Winstrol has been shown to lower SHBG by close to 50%. (8)"

    it wont let me post the link, but this is the article:

    Winstrol - Oral versus Injectible (More Different Than You Think!) By Anthony Roberts
    That's just not true.

    ALL AAS pass through the liver, ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anecitus View Post
    Thanks!

    Ill change to 50mg injection ED and make the modifications to my PCT!

    You know you can drink the liquid, right?

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