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    Question Newbie on the Sus4fifty






    Hi all, thought about joining one of these commuities for a while now. Thought I'd finally pull the trigger...
    I'm 37, been bodybuilding off and on since I was 15 but looking to take it to the next level....even though I might be getting a bit old ;-)

    I've been using sus4fifty for 5 weeks with fairly disapointing results. I'm pinning twice a week, 1cc each time. (This is my 3rd cycle, first 2 were sus250 and they were about 15 years ago - both with good results). This is giving me 450mg of test every Monday and Thursday.

    weight - 187
    Height - 5' 8"
    bench - 355
    squat - 465
    Military - 235
    deadlift..... - admittedly I hate them. Dunno my max... usually workout with 225.

    I know these are pretty good numbers for my size but outside of my early 20's it's been all natural. I've been in the same plateau for a few years (I've been hitting it hard and steady for the last 2 years this time around) and I'm definitely at my genetic max.... so I thought I'd try some enchancments ;-)

    Just wondering what anybody elses experience has been with sus4fifty from syntrop or anything else from syntrop/axio (ok to say the make of the gear and not the source here right?).

    I'm really hoping that I don't have bunk or underdosed gear. I haven't gained any weight, I think my diet and routine are rock solid but if you have advice please feel free...

    My bench has gone up about 10lbs, same with military, and 20lbs on my squat but this could all just be from hitting it extremely hard and heavy during the last 5 weeks. I'd expect to be up at least 5lbs or so in weight but the needle hasn't really moved. I always weigh myself at the same time and same conditions (same time of day, empty gut).

    Here's more info on my diet...
    Protiens:
    Casein
    Whey Isolate
    100% Whey concentrate
    Ready to drink shakes from Costco

    Amino Acids:
    BCAA
    Glutamine
    Beta Alanine

    Other:
    Creatine (micronized)
    Lipo6 Black
    Assortment of vitamins and fish oil

    Pump Mix:
    AAKG
    Citrulline
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    Here’s my regimen:
    As soon as I wake up:
    1 Scoop whey concentrate

    Breakfast :
    2 cups oatmeal, 6 egg whites, 2 whole egs, and 1 slice low fat American cheese

    Mid morning (1 hour pre workout):
    2 cups oatmeal

    Pre workout (30 minutes pre workout):
    1 scoop Whey Isolate
    3 grams AAKG
    1 gram Citrulline
    7-8 grams Creatine
    5 grams Glutamine
    5 grams BCAA
    3 grams Beta-alanine
    Lipo-6
    Fish Oil
    Vitamin B complex (6 and 12)

    Post workout (within 15 minutes – I pack all I need in a lunch cooler before heading to gym):
    1 Scoop Whey Isolate
    1 Scoop Casein
    2 slices whitebread with fat-free cream cheese and 1 tablespoon raspberry jelly (this spikes my insulin pushing in protein and supps – the ONLY time I ever eat processed simple carbs)
    10 grams Creatine
    3 grams Beta-alanine

    Afternoon snack:
    A turkey or PB and J sandwich on whole grain and ready to drink shake.

    Dinner:
    8 ounces of low fat meat and salad or steamed veggies (no carbs)– this does include hamburger but only the 7% fat type. Other varieties (all pre cut, pre frozen from Costco):
    Salmon
    Tilapia
    Salmon burgers
    Tuna
    Chicken Breast
    Chicken Sausage

    Bedtime (right before bed):
    1 scoop Casein protein
    Handful of nuts or 1 tablespoon peanut butter
    Multi-vitamin
    Vitamin C
    Fish oil
    Vitamin E
    Glucosamine

    Anybody see anything that is seriously out of wack here?
    Any input or questions are welcome...
    Cheers,
    - The newbie.

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    I see you are missing an AI and PCT. what are they and/or do you even have them planned?

    First thing you will notice when taking gear is libido. Has your libido increased to insane lvls? Other symptoms are gyno and testicular atrophy. If you have notr experienced any of these, then your gear is bunk. Even if it is underdosed, you will experience at least libido.

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    Ive been running Sus4Fifty for 4 weeks now, it's g2g.

    2mls a week is a hefty dose . . I'm pinning 1ml E5D with good results.

    . . and as that jew Pyes said, you'll def need to run an AI with that gears

    also I see a large amount of placebo abuse going on - please refer to the list below. This will not be tolerated!

    3 grams AAKG (Banned)
    1 gram Citrulline (Banned)
    7-8 grams Creatine
    5 grams Glutamine (Banned)
    5 grams BCAA
    3 grams Beta-alanine (Banned)
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    no results on nearly a gram a week albeit a loooooooong stretched out gram... a draw back of sus is obviously the timed release however at your dose bro the prop should be doing something i have waited around 4-5 weeks for sus to kick in but the magic won't really happen until 8-10 and the shite will be in your sytem for months

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marquis du Gears View Post
    Ive been running Sus4Fifty for 4 weeks now, it's g2g.

    2mls a week is a hefty dose . . I'm pinning 1ml E5D with good results.

    . . and as that jew Pyes said, you'll def need to run an AI with that gears

    also I see a large amount of placebo abuse going on - please refer to the list below. This will not be tolerated!

    3 grams AAKG (Banned)
    1 gram Citrulline (Banned)
    7-8 grams Creatine
    5 grams Glutamine (Banned)
    5 grams BCAA
    3 grams Beta-alanine (Banned)
    Agreed placebo's will not be tolerated .inter-anally beta-alanine could boost the placebo effect
    If you strike me down(ban me)I'll become more powerful than ever.. Don't say i don't warn you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by roastchicken View Post
    no results on nearly a gram a week albeit a loooooooong stretched out gram... a draw back of sus is obviously the timed release however at your dose bro the prop should be doing something i have waited around 4-5 weeks for sus to kick in but the magic won't really happen until 8-10 and the shite will be in your sytem for months

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    idk chicken, check the blend breakdown (with half-lives):

    -75mg/ml Testosterone Propionate (1 day)
    -75mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpionate (2 days)
    -100mg/ml Testosterone Isocaproate (5 days)
    -100mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate (7 days)
    -100mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate (8 days)

    at double the doses you should be getting some results within 2 weeks easy, I felt it kick in one half the dose, but I guess I was cruising beforehand . . the decanoate ester is only a day longer half-life than cyp . . I think as far as blends are concerned this is far superior to plan old sus250, as it's more balanced between the ester half-lives.
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    It sounds like you have your shit together bro. If you just arent putting on weight though, increase those cals. You obviously arent a novice, and it could be something as simple as being 500 cals short a day. If you are meeting your protein needs of at least 1.5-2g per lb of bodyweight, then just add some olive oil to your shakes and food, and that will add a few hundred cals.

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