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    Replacing rows with pull-ups

    I love pull-ups, and although I like rows I would definitely perfer to do pull-ups instead. Would this severly unbalance my routine? If yes, is there another exercise I could do to compensate for the lack of rows?

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    If you're doing deadlifting and chinups I think you're fine.

    Alternatives could be power cleans or heavy rack pulls from about the knee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PushAndPull View Post
    I love pull-ups, and although I like rows I would definitely perfer to do pull-ups instead. Would this severly unbalance my routine? If yes, is there another exercise I could do to compensate for the lack of rows?
    Pull-ups are a great exercise. Since my low back injury, I've been doing more t-bar rows. Usually start with Pull-ups, do a few t-bars, and finish with cable rows. Mostly like how the cable rows stretch out my lower back. Oh, and a couple good-mornings to warm-up. I know-sounds like a lot, but I'm able to finish in just over 1/2 hour. I like to do some bicep isolation work after I finish training back. In and out of the gym in an hour, tops. So, I guess I'm saying you can do both if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Pull-ups are a great exercise. Since my low back injury, I've been doing more t-bar rows. Usually start with Pull-ups, do a few t-bars, and finish with cable rows. Mostly like how the cable rows stretch out my lower back. Oh, and a couple good-mornings to warm-up. I know-sounds like a lot, but I'm able to finish in just over 1/2 hour. I like to do some bicep isolation work after I finish training back. In and out of the gym in an hour, tops. So, I guess I'm saying you can do both if you like.
    I typically do both but on different days. So I want to replace the rows with an extra day of pull-ups. I do deads and good mornings/or GHR's on a different day so I don't think my lower back will miss the rows that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtbmed View Post
    Alternatives could be power cleans or heavy rack pulls from about the knee.
    I was thinking of adding a couple of sets of cleans, because I feel my traps might need a little extra from the lack of rows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PushAndPull View Post
    I typically do both but on different days. So I want to replace the rows with an extra day of pull-ups. I do deads and good mornings/or GHR's on a different day so I don't think my lower back will miss the rows that much.
    Sounds like you are doing a lot of good work for your back. I like to split my lower body and do squats on one day and deadlifts on another. Usually do conventional, high bars and fronts on squat days, and a variety of pulling exercises on deadlift days. I like to change things up every so often, but I like to start off with the main lifts first, when I'm fresh. Always good to switch things around from time to time. Cleans are a fantastic exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Sounds like you are doing a lot of good work for your back. I like to split my lower body and do squats on one day and deadlifts on another. Usually do conventional, high bars and fronts on squat days, and a variety of pulling exercises on deadlift days. I like to change things up every so often, but I like to start off with the main lifts first, when I'm fresh. Always good to switch things around from time to time. Cleans are a fantastic exercise.
    I also split my lower body routine as well, easily the best advice i've picked up from this forum I've actually never done cleans and really wanted to work them into one of my routines. Now my next routine will have cleans and two days of pull-ups

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    face pulls 4 u

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    Why not just do a set of rows somewhere in your back routine? Why is this even a question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyBomber View Post
    Why not just do a set of rows somewhere in your back routine? Why is this even a question?
    It's a question because I perfer pull-ups over rows, and I was wondering if I replaced the rows with extra pull-ups would there be any imbalance created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoglander View Post
    face pulls 4 u
    Somewhat funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PushAndPull View Post
    Somewhat funny.
    Funny, is you thinking it's funny. This is funny as well.... Do shrugs at the top of your deads. HAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoglander View Post
    face pulls 4 u
    The interesting thing about face pulls is the many angles you can use. You can stand and pull the cable directly, or reach up and use an upward angle. At first, I didn't think it looked like much of an exercise, but they work pretty well. Even did a variation using rotation when I was rehabbing my shoulder a few years back.

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    The only problem with them is that at some point you might have to get inventive. To increase the weight you may have to secure your body or have someone hold you. I'm not into the holding thing because I can't find right guy or get two pretty girls. I have a rope in my gym bag I tie to the machine behind me. Boy, do I get some strange looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoglander View Post
    The only problem with them is that at some point you might have to get inventive. To increase the weight you may have to secure your body or have someone hold you. I'm not into the holding thing because I can't find right guy or get two pretty girls. I have a rope in my gym bag I tie to the machine behind me. Boy, do I get some strange looks.
    I always got a bit more stability from my knees, if the machine adjusts. Not quite as effective as doing them standing, though. Know what you mean about someone holding you. Never seen anyone tie themselves to the machine behind them, but it sounds pretty effective. Must be quite a sight.

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