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    People are gonna lose their jobs over this… | RedState

    The postman delivering the mail this afternoon is long gone. Good thing. At least he didn’t hear the expletives that were thrown out to anyone within earshot as the envelope from Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield was opened and the 2011 rate increase was read.

    It appears that, rather than making health care affordable as was promised, ObamaCare is taking our health insurance costs even higher—about $300 per month (or $3600 per year) higher. [Not that anyone with an IQ above an average AFSCME or SEIU member couldn't have figured it out anyway.]

    Now, the “right” (read: soon-to-be mandate) of having health care insurance will only cost this family of five $17,705 per year. And, for what?…A couple of doctor visits per kid per year? The occasional prescription of antibiotics? The privilege of having a ‘just-in-case’ policy?

    This is something you can take to the bank: People will lose their jobs over this…

    As more and more companies, small business owners and workers begin to feel the pinch of ObamaCare’s health care cost increases, there will be less money to spend on economic activity.

    Perhaps it will be a few thousand more UAW members who lose their jobs because there will be less people who can afford the monthly car payments due to ObamaCare.

    Perhaps it will be a few thousand SEIU janitors who lose their jobs because there are less offices to clean as more companies eliminate office space to help defray the costs of ObamaCare.

    Perhaps it will be the SEIU health care worker whose hospital or nursing home is forced to close due to cost rationing.

    Perhaps a few thousand more Teamsters will lose their jobs because their companies experience the drop in business from less freight being moved.

    Perhaps it will be a few thousand more UFCW grocery workers will lose their jobs because customers shift over to larger big-box (and non-union) stores in order to save money.

    Perhaps it will be the union workers in union resort towns like Orlando or Las Vegas who see more jobs lost because fewer Americans will be able to afford vacations.

    Perhaps it will be the unionized airline workers who see fewer air travelers taking the vacations, or less businesses holding conventions in faraway cities.

    The ramifications of ObamaCare are only now beginning. As more and more see their costs increase, others will feel the effects ripple across the economy—people will lose their jobs over ObamaCare.

    They say, over and over again, that elections have consequences.

    While most people who will be losing their jobs don’t deserve it, a few do…

    Hopefully, on Tuesday, the American people will see to it that those most responsible (219 in the House and 60 in the Senate) will be held accountable.

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    ^ Thanks for introducing the topic.

    I have read/.heard this elsewhere. I want to learn more, but it's a difficult and complex topic for me to wade through. Bandaidwoman has had good info and knowledge on this.

    The only thin, I'm a little cricumspect of is the source of your article, "red state."

    Doesn't make the info wrong - we'll have to check it - but it could be overtly biased, exagerrated, or innacurate.

    I do have my doubts about Obama care.
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    I wonder if that would that be the family that doesn't pay federal income tax and get a sizable tax return because of the EITC?...the nerve
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    Last edited by LAM; 10-31-2010 at 12:02 PM.
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    aH WHATS A FEW 100.00 $$ more a month
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    This is what happens when Obama failed to include the two most important pieces

    1. A gov't option
    2. Allowing people to shop companies/policies cross state boundaries


    He conceded too much and passed a watered piece of legislations with no teeth...and it will end up being worse than doing nothing.

    I know my group rates have even gone up (not Blue Cross, but another health insurer giant) and it was supposedly based on the fact that there is no longer any cap on our group coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    He conceded too much and passed a watered piece of legislations with no teeth...and it will end up being worse than doing nothing.
    considering that it's taken what 50 years since the Dems got the last health care legislation passed it is definitely better than nothing, the GOP never proposes any such legislation.
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    I work in insurance and this has been the consensus.
    U used to be able to buy family plans cheaper and pay less to have children who have not had pre-existing problems. But since EVERYBODY will be allowed into the program, family plans will go up because they are basically going to act as if all children are equal and pay as if they had pre-existing conditions.
    So you were in school it would basically be your A students and then your Fstudents, to make it all equal, now everybody averages out and makes a C.
    I just love Obama.
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    Also, From what I understand, your employer can have a way out of it. There will be a form that you can sign that states that you choose to opt out of coverage and they wont be penalized if all workers choose to sign that and carry their own coverage. Im going to assume that owners will hope that employees with choose to do that, because if not, there will be alot of people who will lose their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Geared God View Post
    aH WHATS A FEW 100.00 $$ more a month
    alot of people are already living pay check to pay check and small business owners are barely getting by as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandibeth View Post
    Also, From what I understand, your employer can have a way out of it. There will be a form that you can sign that states that you choose to opt out of coverage and they wont be penalized if all workers choose to sign that and carry their own coverage. Im going to assume that owners will hope that employees with choose to do that, because if not, there will be alot of people who will lose their jobs.
    people forget that the SBA defines small business as those with 500 or less, those with 50 or less people only account for like .3% of small businesses and the PPACA act will help to offset the costs for those.
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    ^^^^ the problem is there are 3 things that they fall under in order to meet it. One of those states if they make less than 50,000. Well our guys are repo guys and they tend to make more than that. We dont pay hourly, we pay by the car. If you think or know differently, please let me know. Its something we are having difficulty finding info on. Tax wise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandibeth View Post
    ^^^^ the problem is there are 3 things that they fall under in order to meet it. One of those states if they make less than 50,000. Well our guys are repo guys and they tend to make more than that. We dont pay hourly, we pay by the car. If you think or know differently, please let me know. Its something we are having difficulty finding info on. Tax wise
    Health Care Reform Bill Summary: A Look At What's in the Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


    "Individuals and families who make between 100 percent - 400 percent of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) and want to purchase their own health insurance on an exchange are eligible for subsidies. They cannot be eligible for Medicare, Medicaid and cannot be covered by an employer. Eligible buyers receive premium credits and there is a cap for how much they have to contribute to their premiums on a sliding scale."

    * the federal poverty line (FPL) for a family of 4 is like 22K. so this means that a family of 4 that makes between 22-88k will get some type of subsidy if the employers does not provide coverage and the individual has to purchase their own.
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