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    "America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor..."

    "America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves.

    To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, "It ain't no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be."

    It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor.

    Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold.

    No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters.

    The meanest eating or drinking establishment. owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question:
    "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?"

    There will also be an American flag no larger than a child's hand-glued to a lollipop stck and flying from the cash register.

    Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue.

    Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money.

    They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves.

    This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say Napoleonic times.

    Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these. a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor.

    They do not love one another because they do not love themselves."

    -Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse Five

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    i was reading somewhere that top 3% of people control 90% of the money in US

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    If people would stop living about their means and trying to keep up with the "Jones", I think we would be better off. We are a country of greed.





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    Which nation was it again that has a much higher per capita income? I wanna move there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    Which nation was it again that has a much higher per capita income? I wanna move there.
    i believe it is Luxembourg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imosted View Post
    i believe it is Luxembourg
    what was / is it in terms of USD any idea?

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    i was wrong but u still wanna go to luxembourg u dotn wanna live in Qatar:P
    1-Qatar 88.232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imosted View Post
    i was reading somewhere that top 3% of people control 90% of the money in US
    Or, "wealth."

    Also, the Ginni Index (Income Gap) has been increasing for decades and is the highest in the industrialized world. The middle class has been shrinking since the 1970s.

    All the hallmarks of a banana republic.
    It's an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt We've stopped spending money that we don't have.

    -- Jack Lew, then director of the Office of Management and Budget, in Feb. 16, 2011 testimony before the Senate Budget Committee.

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    Poor by what standard?

    I grew up as poor as you can get in this country. My mom didn't even take government assistance. I would go without food for a day (sometimes a day and a half). It sucked, but I never starved so much that my life was in jeopardy. My life was never in jeopardy either. There were always police around to keep me safe.

    In other countries, people die from starvation and have bands of thieves take their stuff.

    One persons "poor" is another's decent standard of living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Poor by what standard?

    I grew up as poor as you can get in this country. My mom didn't even take government assistance. I would go without food for a day (sometimes a day and a half). It sucked, but I never starved so much that my life was in jeopardy. My life was never in jeopardy either. There were always police around to keep me safe.

    In other countries, people die from starvation and have bands of thieves take their stuff.

    One persons "poor" is another's decent standard of living.
    You missed the point....more like ignored it.

    The gap from rich to poor is huge in America and the myth of wealth is even bigger. No one said being poor in America was as bad as Mexico or India, but it is worse than in most other industrilazed nations.


    Kurt Vonnegut's quote is not so much about poverty in America, but rather more about the type and impression of poverty. It also speaks to the massive wealth in America....wealth that comes from tax dollars, being used for war rather then making the nation better for all it's people. Yes war is great for the top 5% but it is of no use to the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    You missed the point....more like ignored it.
    I didn't miss, I was just addressing the part that sounded the dumbest.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    The gap from rich to poor is huge in America and the myth of wealth is even bigger.
    I'd rather live in a country with a large/poor gap where you have the most control over your destiny, than live in an "even" country you have much less control/options.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    No one said being poor in America was as bad as Mexico or India, but it is worse than in most other industrilazed nations.
    Most other "industrialized" nations (what you really mean is Western) are nothing like the US. Which leads to so many stupid comparisons.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    Kurt Vonnegut's quote is not so much about poverty in America, but rather more about the type and impression of poverty. It also speaks to the massive wealth in America....wealth that comes from tax dollars, being used for war rather then making the nation better for all it's people. Yes war is great for the top 5% but it is of no use to the rest of us.
    I can get behind some of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    I didn't miss, I was just addressing the part that sounded the dumbest.
    There was no part about that, you just made it up or assumed.



    I'd rather live in a country with a large/poor gap where you have the most control over your destiny, than live in an "even" country you have much less control/options.
    That is another topic but in short, America is not the most free nation in the world at all. That is propaganda.


    Most other "industrialized" nations (what you really mean is Western) are nothing like the US. Which leads to so many stupid comparisons. I am not going to get into a terminology debate. If you can prove my post wrong then do so, changing the subject is a worthless thing to do.


    I can get behind some of that.
    All of it is true so I can see why you can get behind it.

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    The poor in the US aren't the same as the poor in, say, Zimbabwe. So that makes it ok?

    DOMS, it sucks that you grew up that way. In this country that sort of thing shouldn't happen, such is the vast wealth we have here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    The poor in the US aren't the same as the poor in, say, Zimbabwe. So that makes it ok?

    DOMS, it sucks that you grew up that way. In this country that sort of thing shouldn't happen, such is the vast wealth we have here.
    Wealth used for war and bombs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules View Post
    Wealth used for war and bombs.
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