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    Ugl vs human grade vs animal grade

    ok first who got human grade gear and who got the rest. and why would you take deca for dogs ? i understand deca and test for loins their test would make you into a beast .lol

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    I think better to take GMP animal gear then UGL gear home made! its just me!

    also vet gear is gmp made for vet!

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    Question

    GMP relates to animal gear? I thought the WHO had to do with humans.

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    All what is real human gear thats all

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    what about geneza? any one here anything on this product

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    Quote Originally Posted by supperfly1977 View Post
    what about geneza? any one here anything on this product
    Geneza is good IMO, human grade, vet grade, ugl. To me is the same compound. Now of course you got more chances of getting the best quality when you buy hg. Its all about saving money by talking the risk. If you want to be 99% safe ---->HG is for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino0823 View Post
    ok first who got human grade gear and who got the rest. and why would you take deca for dogs ? i understand deca and test for loins their test would make you into a beast .lol
    API is produced in different grades. There are several grades of quality human-grade for parenterals or for tabs, GMP-grade, animal grade. Some good guys are telling “we use human grade API for the dog formulations” some bad ones telling “we use animal grade stuff on humans”. All of them are not very hazardous if operated and stored properly. Typically, the main problem of API is the content of free hormone, i.e. testosterone enanthate contains more or less free testosterone and some amount of enantic acid. These components are not hazardous, but significant content of the testosterone causes low temperature sedimentation of the drug or turbidity.

    Fakers are trying to suppress this effect by overdosing BA. Widespread problem is the presence of moisture in formulation. This is a key feature that allows verify the quality of a drug. Where is the moisture coming from? First of, low quality oil, API stored in refrigerator in an opened can (fakers are usually makes small amounts, so they can not use factory pack at once), and the third path-way through bad stoppers during the sterilization in water-steam autoclave. In general, moister is the enemy number one of oil-based formulations, especially if it is a handicraft drug. Moisture causes hydrolysis of ester, loss of solubility, turbidity and sedimentation of the API. How we do detect moisture? We can look if the oil in vial is wetting the glass. Low quality mixtures have a poor wetting. We can check if the sediments are present as well. It is easy take a laser pointer, shake vial vigorously and watch for the particles in passing light, use a dark room to find illuminated particles. Sediments are coming to handicraft with oil, API powder, and from ambient air (it could be just a usual dust). Factory made drugs are produced in dust-free rooms, API and oil are stored in sealed cans. Before the packing oil solution is normally filtered through 0,22 mkm filter. It is obviously that factory-made drugs have no sediments.

    I discovered basics methods of a fake detection and some ideas where problems are come from and how to find them fast, - the pain in the injection site, moisture detection and sediments detection. These methods are not very reliable. Sure, if you will find the turbidity or sediments it is 99% fake. But sometimes you will be unable to check the drug with these methods. Now I’ll describe I brief advanced techniques and methods of chemical analysis. In general there are two major problems here the dosage and the API kind. It is well-known problem when API is under dosed and if it is substituted with another one, or the both cases in the same time for example vial contains 25 mg/ml of trenbolone acetate and 25 mg/ml of testosterone propionate instead of 50 mg/ml of trenbolone acetate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stronger4ever View Post
    Geneza is good IMO, human grade, vet grade, ugl. To me is the same compound. Now of course you got more chances of getting the best quality when you buy hg. Its all about saving money by talking the risk. If you want to be 99% safe ---->HG is for you.
    Agree.
    There are some Good UGL's out there that do just as good as HG.

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    GP is best UG on the market, almost each batch of their prods is analysed, but nothing can be compared to quality of HG gear, so think twice before buying dirty cheap UGL's, there is always a reason for a very very low prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grozny View Post
    GP is best UG on the market, almost each batch of their prods is analysed, but nothing can be compared to quality of HG gear, so think twice before buying dirty cheap UGL's, there is always a reason for a very very low prices.
    I agree. If I am going to use UGL, GP is the only choice I feel comfortable with. HG is the way to go hands down.



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    Good info

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    What does UGL stand for?

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    Under ground labs lol i hope that was not a real question

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    Quote Originally Posted by supperfly1977 View Post
    what about geneza? any one here anything on this product
    Gp the best stuff out there that's coming from experience go to naps.net all gp,products are the highest hg gear there is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino0823 View Post
    Under ground labs lol i hope that was not a real question
    Lmbo dude I'm pretty sure it was a real ? Wow that dudes got a lot to learn

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