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    I have 30 years of non interupted serious lifting.I have competed for 15 years but not in the last 10years.I competed in drug tested only contest winning state titles and national.I am older than most here (48) but my knowledge of gear is limited.My stats are 5' 10'' 215lbs 8-10 body fat.I was looking on doing a 12 week cycle of primo 200 mg a week and some anavar. how much anavar should i use and for how long.Should i use it the whole cycle or just the last 6 weeks?should i use a pct? and if so what and how long.My goal is not to put on tons of muscle but to get body fat down under 6 percent but maintain my present weight.

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    throw in some test and don't you need to run really high doses of primo?

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    I'd run test at 400-500mg EW at var at 80mg ED and yes PCT will be needed.
    Not ran primo myself but you would need to run it alot higher than 200mg if you do.

    You could also try run var on its own at 80-100mg ED for 10wks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sscar View Post
    I have 30 years of non interupted serious lifting.I have competed for 15 years but not in the last 10years.I competed in drug tested only contest winning state titles and national.I am older than most here (48) but my knowledge of gear is limited.My stats are 5' 10'' 215lbs 8-10 body fat.I was looking on doing a 12 week cycle of primo 200 mg a week and some anavar. how much anavar should i use and for how long.Should i use it the whole cycle or just the last 6 weeks?should i use a pct? and if so what and how long.My goal is not to put on tons of muscle but to get body fat down under 6 percent but maintain my present weight.

    I would at least throw a small dose of test in there. Something like this would work very well:

    Wk1-12 Test E 300mg/wk
    Wk1-12 Primo Depot 400-600mg/wk
    wk 5-12 Anavar 75mg ED
    Wk1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg eod

    PCT should consist of Clomid 100/100/75/50 and Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    I would at least throw a small dose of test in there. Something like this would work very well:

    Wk1-12 Test E 300mg/wk
    Wk1-12 Primo Depot 400-600mg/wk
    wk 5-12 Anavar 75mg ED
    Wk1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg eod

    PCT should consist of Clomid 100/100/75/50 and Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

    This is pretty close to what I would do. Add in some HCG and you're good to go.

    You probably already know this but it's all going to come down to your diet.

    I would also get baseline bloodwork done to see where you're at before ever doing a cycle. Ask to get yout total testosterone done as well as free testosterone. A full metabolic panel as well as any other things you can think of. You'll be glad you did this if you decide to come over to the dark side.

    Good luck.

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    Yep, definately up the Primo to a good 400mg EW. Run the 'Var for the latter half of cycle (I run Var at 60mg non-workout days and 70 on gym days). My stats are similar to yours, except for the age. Sorry, lol. I'm 34 but 5'8" 215 and a shade under 10% BF right now. I would add in at least a "cruise" dose of Test. That is, 200-300mg EW. HCG is not a requirement but you can add it in if you want. I like to run Arimidex as the AI at 0.5mg EOD. Aromasin might be a little bit better though.

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    thanks for the advise and replys,this is my 3rd cycle ever and like i said i have 30 years of heavy lifting.My last cycle was june-aug 2010 wich consisited of 200mg of deca and 30mg ed of winstrol.I was really happy with the results.The one before that was the previous year june-aug 2009 at that time i did do 200 mg of deca and 100mg of test cyp. a week(ok stop laughing at my doses) and 30 mg ed of winstrol.to be honest i didnt care to much for the water retained i am guessing from the test,my wife would also hide from me lol due to the massive increase in libido also test related.I took the test because my research at the time told me not to do deca with out it. I will admit i got stronger from it my bench went from 335 to 355.I am trying to avoid as much as possible interupting my own production of test this is why i went to the primo and anavar,i was only thinking of doing 30 mg each day and maybee 300 mg a week of the primo.I have never really done the pct i was justwoundering with this cycle what would be better clom or nov and how much and how long.Again i not looking to gain 20lbs just to maintain my muscle and lose around 3percent of b/f. thanks again

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    ANY AAS you use will shut down your natuaral test production at any dose.

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    i can understand that,I have read also that primo and anavar seem to be the better choice for older guys.I know my doses are low but i was really happy and satisfied with the results.So what pct is better clom or nov?

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    ok i did see the above replys with the doses of clom and the duration,thanks alot for your replys.I find this message board intersting and helpful.

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