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    Looks like college degree STILL pays off


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    This girl at my work has two master degrees and is working help desk, shit must suck.

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    Well, it would also depend on what you study too. Going into Law is just plain stupid unless you're going into top tier schools due to saturation.

    What did she study?

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    There's a couple issues with this. Obviously there's the old correlation vs. causation dilemma; this graph gives no indication as to what extent the degree causes these results. The other is the 'pay off' versus the investment.

    I've got two science degrees and work a retail job along side kids still in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt View Post
    This girl at my work has two master degrees and is working help desk, shit must suck.
    I've know so many girls with master's working low paying jobs like substitute teaching, teaching special ed., etc. Education is big business and it's getting fatter from government intervention.

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    Highly depends on the field, take renewable energy where I am. Not many people have been in it since it became really popular. I designed a PV system to run data monitoring at a small Observatory. I was explaining how it all connects to 2 Astrophysicists and they told me they learned more about the photovoltaic process from me than all their years in college(all I have is an Associate in Applied Science (focused on computing). What else I have is a vacuum mind for learning, I am always filling my brain with some new knowledge on just about anything, but mostly science related....

    It also depends on motivation, if you push yourself to learn outside of college on your own and just amass a lot of knowledge you then get your foot in the door somewhere you don't need a degree of any kind, but most of the time the degree is a good foot in the door help.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimal View Post
    Well, it would also depend on what you study too. Going into Law is just plain stupid unless you're going into top tier schools due to saturation.

    What did she study?
    Oh I know, I wasn't arguing with the first post was just saying it sucks but she has an education and business degree.

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    what the hell is a "professional degree" ? Law, Accounting, Medicine etc?
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    It's been my experience that the more education you have translates directly to additional doors being open to you or job opportunities made available.

    High school diploma got me into the Navy, the Navy's credits and experience (and the fact that I was an enlisted man applying for ROTC) helped get me into college, the college degree didn't help me much at all but allowed me to continue my education as I pursued and then earned my teaching certificate.

    My job as a teacher opened up graduate level classes which are fully reimbursed by the school district. Education might not pay off, but I can't see a downside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theCaptn' View Post
    what the hell is a "professional degree" ? Law, Accounting, Medicine etc?
    Pretty much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    Education might not pay off, but I can't see a downside.
    How about the billions of dollars invested by students and taxpayers. Student loan debt has exceeded credit card debt. That doesn't even include scholarships and grants paid for by the taxpayer.

    "The value of a thing sometimes does not lie in that which one attains by it, but in what one pays for it -- what it costs us." ~ Nietzsche

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    Getting a degree doesn't make you a good worker. It doesn't mold you into something businesses can use. It doesn't give you the drive to carve out a niche out for yourself. It simply opens doors for you, and allows you to reach your potential. If you don't have much potential, all the education in the world will not help you.

    Naturally, getting a degree improves your marketability. It tells employers that a person was willing to put up with years of nonstop horseshit in order to prove their worth by finishing what they start. You don't have to go to school to do this, but it is one method. The other method is to out work, out think, and out produce you co-workers, and hope you get noticed for it. Even then, if the company you work for goes belly up, you might have to do it all over again at another company

    I don't have much sympathy for the Starbucks workers of America who have degrees in the arts and humanities. Just what in the fuck did those people think they were going to do with that? I want to feel bad for my buddy who get his masters in communication, and is stuck in a low paying dead-end job at a theme park, but I just can't. If you don't know what kind of career you want, spend a year thinking about it before jumping right into college. That shit is fucking expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    Education might not pay off, but I can't see a downside.
    How about life long servitude spent paying off massive student loan debts for the rest of your life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by troubador View Post
    How about the billions of dollars invested by students and taxpayers. Student loan debt has exceeded credit card debt. That doesn't even include scholarships and grants paid for by the taxpayer.

    "The value of a thing sometimes does not lie in that which one attains by it, but in what one pays for it -- what it costs us." ~ Nietzsche
    What are you asking?

    As a veteran I received the maximum allowable grants, I took out loans, worked as a resident assistant on campus as well as working two other part-time jobs.

    No scholarships, but thank you, taxpayer, for the grant money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    How about life long servitude spent paying off massive student loan debts for the rest of your life?
    Not here. And, hey, at almost 49 "the rest of your life" isn't such a long time, I suspect.

    And though I did take out some loans, I didn't enter the realm of idiocy.

    I mean if someone has loans totaling more than one hundred grand? That's just outside my comfort zone.

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