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    One California budget fix: Abolish death row

    One California budget fix: Abolish death row

    By Charles Riley
    June 20, 2011: 04:06 PM EDT

    Taxpayers have spent $4 billion since 1978 on California's capital punishment system -- and with only 13 executions to show for it.

    That's about $308 million per execution. And without substantial changes, the state's total bill will expand to $9 billion by 2030, according to a new study by federal appeals Judge Arthur Alarcón and Paula Mitchell, his law clerk and a professor at Loyola Law School.

    The situation is now so severe, voters must choose to pay higher taxes or abolish the death penalty, the authors say. The study's release comes at a time when fiscal policy is a hot topic in California. And the state's $26 billion deficit is already hitting the criminal justice system.

    Gov. Jerry Brown announced in April that he is canceling the long-planned construction of a new housing facility for condemned inmates at the state's infamous San Quentin prison.

    With a backlog of 714 prisoners currently on death row, Alarcón and Mitchell call California's capital punishment system "dysfunctional," and "a debacle."

    The rare comprehensive review of the state's death row costs estimates that prosecuting death penalty cases is $184 million more expensive every year than if those cases had been life without parole prosecutions.

    "Nobody can really with a straight face say this is a system that is working," Mitchell said in an interview. The state attorney general's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Thirty-nine crimes are now punishable by death in California, as voters have repeatedly expanded the program through the state's unique direct voter initiative process.

    The cost of expanding the death penalty was never accurately presented to voters, Alarcón and Mitchell argue. The result is a crawling appeals process that costs taxpayers as much as $300,000 to hire private attorneys for indigent prisoners, the authors say. And despite the big tab, a substantial number of inmates don't have adequate legal representation.

    "The long wait for execution -- which has been over 20 years for each of the five inmates executed in the last 10 years -- reflects a wholesale failure to fund the efficient, effective capital punishment system that California voters were told they were choosing," the report says.

    But Kent Scheidegger, legal director of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a nonprofit organization that advocates for victims rights, said California does not sentence too many people to death.

    Instead, the state should work to resolve appeals faster, expand the pool of attorneys who are qualified to handle death penalty cases, and cut down the number of times the penalty phase is reviewed in court, Scheidegger said.

    From CNNMoney.com

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    I've always believed and still do believe that the death penalty of appropriate for certain heinous crimes, especially that involve children, and torturing other human beings, etc.

    But the cost of the legal system for death row is astronomical. It's one of many ways to save.

    Many states are going to cut and snip any cost they can. And as we know, this is likely only the beginning of these austerity programs.
    It's an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt We've stopped spending money that we don't have.

    -- Jack Lew, then director of the Office of Management and Budget, in Feb. 16, 2011 testimony before the Senate Budget Committee.

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    Fuck that. Kill them within 3 years and put it on PPV.

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    If they'd actually, you know, kill them at a reasonable time after sentencing, then it wouldn't cost nearly as much.

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    they need to hire a woman that budgeted her household expenses well enough to raise 6 kids on her husband's blue collar salary and have her overhaul the breakdown of just where the money in a death penalty scenarios goes. in the old days you needed a judge, a couple reasonably paid lawyers, a group of honest citizens, and a rope. that should still be good enough.

    a tree would be helpful. must have been some whiny liberal that started the whole build a scaffold bs to make it a quick death.
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    Its a great idea to get rid of it in california due to the fact we dont really have a death penalty.

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    What do you think we should do if we later find out that person who was executed was an innocent? Do you think we should execute the judge, juries and plentiff's families? Just wondering.
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    i don't think they should execute people unless there is absolute proof of guilt. you can't argue with some man's dna in a little girls corpse etc.

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    I agree with LW.

    Kill em all and let god sort em out works too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cgrant View Post
    I agree with LW.

    Kill em all and let god sort em out works too

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    If you believe in god, don't you think it is god's job to take his life, not ours?
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    I agree with LW as well. Generally speaking, California is such a fucked up, retarded state.

    Then again it's why I moved out of California and will NEVER return.
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    I am not trying to be pro or against this, I just don't like hypocrisy.
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    How can anyone justify this states misspending with a straight face?
    $308 mill. per execution? Phuq! That's just obscene.

    This culture of corruption still exists and is as strong as ever.

    Fraud and waste in public spending in California is costing taxpayers billions of dollars. Unlike budget officers in California, who ignore or work to cover fraud and waste, news outlets are reporting frequently on the serious and costly mismanagement in this state.

    Perhaps, it's time we should start at the top and cut of the head of these malfeasant, and sinister politicians, who call you & I, and our parents & their parents greedy!

    Everyday phuquin day, these stories get me a little more pissed!

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    the US and Japan are the only OECD countries that have not abolished the death penalty. after being in use across the globe for many hundreds of years the data shows it simply does not work as a deterrent.

    capital punishment is a budget killer of state and local governments. with high unemployment, inflation and reduced tax receipts from incomes derived from wages CA simply can't afford it.

    historical economic data should always trump ideology but in the US it's the opposite, it's why things will never get better.
    William F. Buckley describes a conservative as, "someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop." - and then proceeds to drag civilization back to times best left in history's dungheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubby View Post
    If you believe in god, don't you think it is god's job to take his life, not ours?
    Was it not god that gave man free will? Are we not judged by god on our use of such? I don't think the "let the rapists run free, god willl get em one day" theory is really going to work out..

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