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    HCG and PCT, PLEASE HELP!!!!

    I'm on a 15 week cycle of Tren A 300 mgs/wk, EQ 600 mgs/wk, Test E 500 mgs/wk. I plannecd on running hcg for the last two weeks of my cycle and then starting clomid and nolva 5 days later. Now I'm reading on some forums that HCG should be run with clomid and nolva for PCT? I thought that would defeat the purpose of PCT since HCG is suppressive? Also, I was going to run HCG at 500 IU's a week. Everyones telling me this is way too low and it's not going to get my testicles back into shape in two weeks. Somebody please help me with how I should go about this since I need to start HCG in about a weeks time. I thought I had this all dialed in but I guess not. Somebody please help, I'm starting to panic!

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    ive heard the same as you. 500 iu is too low. and yes run it with clomid or nolva.

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    So, I should run it during PCT and not two weeks before PCT? Do you have an recommendations on how high I should run HCG? I appreciate the help!

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    i'd pm heavyiron, he knows everything and seems cool enough to reply, even if only out of sympathy

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    Testosterone-Induced gonadotropin suppression tends to cause atrophy of the testes and decreases intratesticular testosterone. In other words, when a male administers testosterone his testes shrink because they are suppressed. A simple way to restore ITT levels and maintain the mass of the testes is to administer HCG during testosterone treatment. During a study it was determined that HCG is dose dependant and that approximately 300iu HCG taken every other day restored ITT levels. This is 1,050iu HCG weekly. I recommend 500iu twice weekly while on testosterone treatment. On a very heavy cycle a third dose of 500iu could be added but that is typically not needed. HCG will not only keep ITT levels and the mass of the testes normal but will also aid in keeping the male fertile.

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    Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your testes are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG eod.)

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    That is info i copied and pasted from heavyirons post on "first cycle and PCT". hope it helps...

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    If your balls have shrunken too much pct will become harder thats why you start using HCG in the 4-5 week of cycling. now hcg you should shoot every third day about 500 iu (after 4-5 weeks in the cycle), most pregnyl are 1500 or 5000 iu thats why you allways have something left and you can store that in your fridge, with the 5000 iu you can add extra bacteriostatic or sterilized water.

    I mis the anti-E. Some use proviron others Nolva and satrt their pct with Nolva and Clomid or one of the two.
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    HCG should be used on cycle


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    Who gave u that hcg protocol u used?
    It's for during cycle, alot of ppl start after week 2 and stop after week 10(of a 12 weeker) at 250 or 500IU 2x week

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    A buddy that claims he's a steroid pro. He's a brick shithouse but obviously doesn't have a clue. I can get HCG immediately and I still have 5 weeks left until PCT. I just want to know the best way to get my testicles in shape before PCT. I know that it's optimal to run it throught cycle but I dont have that option now.

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    I shot HeavyIron a PM and he told me 500 IU twice a week for the last three weeks of my cycle as a minimum. What do think would be the maximum dose to MAKE SURE my nuts are in shape for PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msumuscle View Post
    I shot HeavyIron a PM and he told me 500 IU twice a week for the last three weeks of my cycle as a minimum. What do think would be the maximum dose to MAKE SURE my nuts are in shape for PCT?
    It's a bit late to be sure now, but follow Heavy's advice, and depending on what you are taking, you can up the dose between your last shot and the time you take your PCT. Do not take HCG during PCT, as it is counter-productive to regaining natural Testosterone production.

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    Thanks MDR! One more question for ya! What is HCGs halflife? How long before I start PCT can I take my last shot of it?

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