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    tren or deca...which one is harder to recover from?






    title says it all

    i always hear about each of these 2 compounds shutting you down "harder" than most others.

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    I hope deca wins

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    I voted Tren but I think that if you are using long estered Deca that can make it take longer since it will be longer to clear the system but if you drop the Deca 2 weeks before you drop the Test then wait 2 weeks and do PCT it is not so bad. I think Tren causes more shutdown though.



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    Deca is harder IMO. but you dont specify tren ace or enth. tren a is easy because its gone in a couple days. tren e lingers a bit but deca can take weeks to fully clear the system. I believe its detectable in a drug test months after use.
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    both will shut you down 100%...there isn't any "i'm kinda shut down."

    Shut down is shut down..period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stfuandliftbtch View Post
    both will shut you down 100%...there isn't any "i'm kinda shut down."

    Shut down is shut down..period.
    This. But deca lingers for months so I guess you can say that deca would be harder to recover from.

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    They do not cause complete shutdown. Deca has been shown to cause a 70% shutdown of the synthesis of Testosterone in 6 wks at a dosage of 300mg/wk . At 100mg/wk it causes appr. 57% shutdown. So that is not a total shutdown of Testosterone synthesis by the body. Any 19-Nor will cause more significant shutdown due to progestational activity. Tren is know for a stronger progestational activity. By the way Deca's half life is 7-12 days. That being said I really have a hard time saying which one is more suppressive. I think Tren is more suppressive but enables most to recover more quickly than Deca.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TGB1987 View Post
    They do not cause complete shutdown. Deca has been shown to cause a 70% shutdown of the synthesis of Testosterone in 6 wks at a dosage of 300mg/wk . At 100mg/wk it causes appr. 57% shutdown. So that is not a total shutdown of Testosterone synthesis by the body. Any 19-Nor will cause more significant shutdown due to progestational activity. Tren is know for a stronger progestational activity. By the way Deca's half life is 7-12 days. That being said I really have a hard time saying which one is more suppressive. I think Tren is more suppressive but enables most to recover more quickly than Deca.
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    i've done deca and tren, and tren shut me down hard.

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    Yes I was referencing the studies on Deca shutdown percentage from Anabolics 10th edition by William Llewellyn.



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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo584 View Post
    i've done deca and tren, and tren shut me down hard.
    how long ago did you run the tren cycle? and how recovered are you right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGB1987 View Post
    if you are using long estered Deca that can make it take longer
    Deca IS the ester! Nandrolone is the steroid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfeasance View Post
    Deca IS the ester! Nandrolone is the steroid.

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    I voted for Tren as well, and I agree that any 19 Nor will result in dramatic shutdown. Tren just seems a bit worse to me. Very hard to say.

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    Can't say for sure....it's really too close to the same for me.




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    every ones body is different.

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    I ran both, i agree tren is harder. (for me)

    Tren ace wasnt to bad, but tren e was brutal.

    Both shut you down, but deca didnt give me a problem, i stopped using 4 weeks before pct, and used test 2 weeks longer than the deca. also used hcg on-cycle. never had a problem recovering

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGB1987 View Post
    Yes I was referencing the studies on Deca shutdown percentage from Anabolics 10th edition by William Llewellyn.
    Thanks for the info.

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    If you're after strength gains and getting lean and cut as possible, go with tren. It doesn't matter if it's ace or enth. It's a matter of preference. You'll notice ace taking effect within a week or so. Tren E will take about 2 weeks before you can tell you're even on anything.

    If you wanna bulk, deca is better. The half-life is also a good bit longer with Deca. Deca is also great for lubricating the joints. Tren can be tough on the joints due to rapid and dramatic strength gains also.

    The decider should be whether you want a lean beach body or just get big'n bulky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    If you're after strength gains and getting lean and cut as possible, go with tren. It doesn't matter if it's ace or enth. It's a matter of preference. You'll notice ace taking effect within a week or so. Tren E will take about 2 weeks before you can tell you're even on anything.

    If you wanna bulk, deca is better. The half-life is also a good bit longer with Deca. Deca is also great for lubricating the joints. Tren can be tough on the joints due to rapid and dramatic strength gains also.

    The decider should be whether you want a lean beach body or just get big'n bulky.
    well here's the scoop. im 22, just finished my first cycle of 8 weeks prop 400mg and 6 weeks anavar 70mg. im half way through pct and feel completely fine, libido is good, no side effects whatsoever. no acne, gyno, hair loss, depression, etc nothing.

    but i'll only allow myself to do 1 cycle per year at the most so i can recover. i'll also only run 8 week cycles with short esters. i just prefer to get on, get off, and recover. plus im 5'11 215lbs at about 15%bf. i'd much rather be shredded at 200-ish.

    i wanted to do an 8 week test/tren cycle next year but i've been advised by some on here not to do it for only my 2nd cycle. someone recommended an 8 week test/npp/mast cutting cycle as an alternative to tren but wouldnt the nandrolone shut me down just about the same as tren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfeasance View Post
    Deca IS the ester! Nandrolone is the steroid.
    Got me on that one lol.



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    recovery

    how do u recover from the shutdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by bishop22 View Post
    I ran both, i agree tren is harder. (for me)

    Tren ace wasnt to bad, but tren e was brutal.

    Both shut you down, but deca didnt give me a problem, i stopped using 4 weeks before pct, and used test 2 weeks longer than the deca. also used hcg on-cycle. never had a problem recovering

    When did you stop using hcg on cycle or was it throughout cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee500 View Post
    how do u recover from the shutdown
    Standard pct practices? Hcg, nolva and clomid

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