I hope deca wins
title says it all
i always hear about each of these 2 compounds shutting you down "harder" than most others.
I hope deca wins
Deca is harder IMO. but you dont specify tren ace or enth. tren a is easy because its gone in a couple days. tren e lingers a bit but deca can take weeks to fully clear the system. I believe its detectable in a drug test months after use.
both will shut you down 100%...there isn't any "i'm kinda shut down."
Shut down is shut down..period.
They do not cause complete shutdown. Deca has been shown to cause a 70% shutdown of the synthesis of Testosterone in 6 wks at a dosage of 300mg/wk . At 100mg/wk it causes appr. 57% shutdown. So that is not a total shutdown of Testosterone synthesis by the body. Any 19-Nor will cause more significant shutdown due to progestational activity. Tren is know for a stronger progestational activity. By the way Deca's half life is 7-12 days. That being said I really have a hard time saying which one is more suppressive. I think Tren is more suppressive but enables most to recover more quickly than Deca.
i've done deca and tren, and tren shut me down hard.
I voted for Tren as well, and I agree that any 19 Nor will result in dramatic shutdown. Tren just seems a bit worse to me. Very hard to say.
Can't say for sure....it's really too close to the same for me.
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I ran both, i agree tren is harder. (for me)
Tren ace wasnt to bad, but tren e was brutal.
Both shut you down, but deca didnt give me a problem, i stopped using 4 weeks before pct, and used test 2 weeks longer than the deca. also used hcg on-cycle. never had a problem recovering
If you're after strength gains and getting lean and cut as possible, go with tren. It doesn't matter if it's ace or enth. It's a matter of preference. You'll notice ace taking effect within a week or so. Tren E will take about 2 weeks before you can tell you're even on anything.
If you wanna bulk, deca is better. The half-life is also a good bit longer with Deca. Deca is also great for lubricating the joints. Tren can be tough on the joints due to rapid and dramatic strength gains also.
The decider should be whether you want a lean beach body or just get big'n bulky.
but i'll only allow myself to do 1 cycle per year at the most so i can recover. i'll also only run 8 week cycles with short esters. i just prefer to get on, get off, and recover. plus im 5'11 215lbs at about 15%bf. i'd much rather be shredded at 200-ish.
i wanted to do an 8 week test/tren cycle next year but i've been advised by some on here not to do it for only my 2nd cycle. someone recommended an 8 week test/npp/mast cutting cycle as an alternative to tren but wouldnt the nandrolone shut me down just about the same as tren?
how do u recover from the shutdown