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both will shut you down 100%...there isn't any "i'm kinda shut down."
Shut down is shut down..period.
They do not cause complete shutdown. Deca has been shown to cause a 70% shutdown of the synthesis of Testosterone in 6 wks at a dosage of 300mg/wk . At 100mg/wk it causes appr. 57% shutdown. So that is not a total shutdown of Testosterone synthesis by the body. Any 19-Nor will cause more significant shutdown due to progestational activity. Tren is know for a stronger progestational activity. By the way Deca's half life is 7-12 days. That being said I really have a hard time saying which one is more suppressive. I think Tren is more suppressive but enables most to recover more quickly than Deca.
i've done deca and tren, and tren shut me down hard.
Deca IS the ester! Nandrolone is the steroid.if you are using long estered Deca that can make it take longer
Deca IS the ester! Nandrolone is the steroid.
Yes I was referencing the studies on Deca shutdown percentage from Anabolics 10th edition by William Llewellyn.
If you're after strength gains and getting lean and cut as possible, go with tren. It doesn't matter if it's ace or enth. It's a matter of preference. You'll notice ace taking effect within a week or so. Tren E will take about 2 weeks before you can tell you're even on anything.
If you wanna bulk, deca is better. The half-life is also a good bit longer with Deca. Deca is also great for lubricating the joints. Tren can be tough on the joints due to rapid and dramatic strength gains also.
The decider should be whether you want a lean beach body or just get big'n bulky.
Deca IS the ester! Nandrolone is the steroid.
I ran both, i agree tren is harder. (for me)
Tren ace wasnt to bad, but tren e was brutal.
Both shut you down, but deca didnt give me a problem, i stopped using 4 weeks before pct, and used test 2 weeks longer than the deca. also used hcg on-cycle. never had a problem recovering
how do u recover from the shutdown