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    Cruising/trt questions (AI, hcg, libido etc) plz read






    Ok so I am pretty much dead set on doing a self administered TRT. I've suffered (and I mean suffered...) from the symptoms of low test since mid teens. Almost nonexistent libido, depression, developed a bit of gyno around 15, very low energy or drive to do much of anythimg really. After being on test for a while and seeing what a drastic improvement it made in my entire quality of life I've decided it is well worth it to me. I am young but at this point have no desire to have children, though I would like to use HCG anyway for other reasons.

    I've been doing a good bit of research and have decided I will be going with around 200mg enanthate per week. I'm never going back to having low test again, and really being above normal is what I want. So I'm guessing an AI will be necessary, and am wondering which would be the best option for long term use. Cost is somewhat a factor but mostly I am looking for the one with the least negative side effects. So what compound and at what dosage should I start?

    I would also like to use hcg mainly to keep my testicles normal size and hopefully improve ejaculate volume. Like I said having kids is not even on my mind though I'm sure it will help there too. What is a good dosage that will keep my balls looking normal and allow me to have fairly normaly ejaculations? Hcg will also improve volume correct?

    Last question, is there a point where adding more test simply cannot increase your sex drive? Ie. will my libido still be nearly as strong on 200mg test as it is on say 500mg? I'm guessing that past a certain point your libido just can't go any higher, even if you were to double your test dosage. Like I said I suffered from pretty extreme low libido through all my prime pussy slaying years lol, I just don't ever want to go back to that. It totally ruined my ability to sustain a relationship or even desire to pursue girls.

    Actually one more question, is some bloat/water retention unavoidable or at this dosage with an AI should I stay as "lean/dry" as I would normally? Thanks in advance to anyone whose read this far, this is a pretty serious decision that I'm not taking lightly and would appreciate all the advice you guys have. I'm not interested in hearing that I should wait until I'm older, I'm not going back to the way I was before so please don't bother.

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    200mg T weekly ( I might advise a bit higher like 300ish)
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    20mg Cialis as needed




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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    200mg T weekly ( I might advise a bit higher like 300ish)
    500iu HCG twice weekly
    0.5mg Adex Mon, Wed, Fri
    20mg Cialis as needed
    "you must spread some reputation..."

    Quick and to the point, much appreciated. I may go with 250mg then but I thought that might be a bit high. I know it will vary widely but around about what test levels will that put most people? I trust your judgement though and I'd like to be as high as possible without health being much of a concern.

    I can't even express how much better I feel on test. Not even gonna go into the depression/fatigue aspect but that's what originally prompted me to do this. But going from having almost no desire to have sex to spitting game to every girl I see has honestly made life a million times better . I didn't realize how much I was missing out on until now, and there's no way I'm going back. Thank god for testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    200mg T weekly ( I might advise a bit higher like 300ish)
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    0.5mg Adex Mon, Wed, Fri
    20mg Cialis as needed
    HI you are the man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    "you must spread some reputation..."

    Quick and to the point, much appreciated. I may go with 250mg then but I thought that might be a bit high. I know it will vary widely but around about what test levels will that put most people? I trust your judgement though and I'd like to be as high as possible without health being much of a concern.

    I can't even express how much better I feel on test. Not even gonna go into the depression/fatigue aspect but that's what originally prompted me to do this. But going from having almost no desire to have sex to spitting game to every girl I see has honestly made life a million times better . I didn't realize how much I was missing out on until now, and there's no way I'm going back. Thank god for testosterone.

    I know your relativity young for TRT, but to give you a little piece of mind. I was talking to a guy at the gym the other day who told me he had his levels checked at 23 and his test total was 110. At the time his dr would not put him on TRT, which I personally think is messed up, but he went to another dr soon after and was put on 250mg a week. He's 30 something now and cycles a little, but mostly on test 250mg and the guy looks like a beast! He told me he feels great too. Just thought I would share that with you, maybe it will put your mind at ease knowing your not the only one with low test at a young age... good luck man. "W"
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    200mg T weekly ( I might advise a bit higher like 300ish)
    500iu HCG twice weekly
    0.5mg Adex Mon, Wed, Fri
    20mg Cialis as needed
    Good advice. That is gonna be my protocol starting next year with possibly 100ish mg of deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    "you must spread some reputation..."

    Quick and to the point, much appreciated. I may go with 250mg then but I thought that might be a bit high. I know it will vary widely but around about what test levels will that put most people? I trust your judgement though and I'd like to be as high as possible without health being much of a concern.

    I can't even express how much better I feel on test. Not even gonna go into the depression/fatigue aspect but that's what originally prompted me to do this. But going from having almost no desire to have sex to spitting game to every girl I see has honestly made life a million times better . I didn't realize how much I was missing out on until now, and there's no way I'm going back. Thank god for testosterone.
    250mg T weekly is good. I imagine that will put your Total T around 500-2,000ng/dl depending on the day of the draw in relation to the T inject. There was a 20 week study where guys administered 300mg T weekly and had no health issues at all. The 600mg T group had slightly lowered HDL so I would just keep your dose below 600mg T weekly. After you have been on a few months go get a blood panel and see how everything is. In particular look at Hematocrit and cholesterol.

    250mg T weekly will significantly raise energy, mood and libido.




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    i cruise at 250-300. .5 a-dex eod. ive been doing this for 3 years. I got my gf pregnant on a test tren cycle some how. aas is not birth control you can get a chick pregno while on cycle. i do not use hcg ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_walker View Post
    I know your relativity young for TRT, but to give you a little piece of mind. I was talking to a guy at the gym the other day who told me he had his levels checked at 23 and his test total was 110. At the time his dr would not put him on TRT, which I personally think is messed up, but he went to another dr soon after and was put on 250mg a week. He's 30 something now and cycles a little, but mostly on test 250mg and the guy looks like a beast! He told me he feels great too. Just thought I would share that with you, maybe it will put your mind at ease knowing your not the only one with low test at a young age... good luck man. "W"
    Yeah that is fucked up for sure. I don't think it should matter how old you are, having low T is awful no matter what your age. I appreciate it though man

    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    250mg T weekly is good. I imagine that will put your Total T around 500-2,000ng/dl depending on the day of the draw in relation to the T inject. There was a 20 week study where guys administered 300mg T weekly and had no health issues at all. The 600mg T group had slightly lowered HDL so I would just keep your dose below 600mg T weekly. After you have been on a few months go get a blood panel and see how everything is. In particular look at Hematocrit and cholesterol.

    250mg T weekly will significantly raise energy, mood and libido.
    lol I was originally hearing 100-125mg weekly would be fine. Then I hear plenty of people doing 200-250 so I thought I would go a bit conservative with 200. That's probably where I'll start but it's good to know I can up it a bit if I decide to. I will be getting bloodwork often though for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by gym66 View Post
    i cruise at 250-300. .5 a-dex eod. ive been doing this for 3 years. I got my gf pregnant on a test tren cycle some how. aas is not birth control you can get a chick pregno while on cycle. i do not use hcg ever.
    Yep some people think getting on trt/cruising means a definite end to having kids. Obviously that's not always the case though. I'm not even considering having children but it is nice to know the possibility is still there if I change my mind. As for hcg I'll be using it more to keep my nuts looking normal and hopefully keep my loads a decent size lol. Don't have a steady girl at the moment so I'd rather not have to make excuses for having tiny nuts lol. And I don't know anybody that doesn't enjoy coating a bitch's face in baby batter lolll

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