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    Attn Law Enforcement members

    Just wondering what you thought of this story. It kind of pisses me off.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/09/pol...dog/index.html

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    Well, Here is my take on the situation..........

    They prob. got stopped because their vehicle matched the discription of the Armed Robbery suspect.

    You notice the article did not mention what type of dog it was. I have a 55lb Pit Bull, and he is a med. size dog. And often wags his tale when he's pissed.

    It's hard to second guess what the officer did, because there was no account from the officer in the news story. And usually the media tends to leave out some important details. I'm not saying the officer was just in what he did. But I will say, it smells fishy.....I think there is more to the story than what that family is actually telling.

    In the story it tells of the police dept and the Highway patrol being involved. If the Police Officer was wrong in shooting the dog, it will come out.

    It just seams there is more to that story.

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    That thing that gets me is that the story indicates the suspects asked the cops to close the car door so the dog would not get out. They did not. So the dog got out, wagging it's tail, and they killed it.

    You're right though, there is probably more to it. Think about that family though, and now they have to live with images of seeing their dog getting it's head blasted off.

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    Well, that another thing.............A shotgun or a pistol is not going to take a dogs head off. That was one of the things in the story that told me the reporter was trying to sensationalize the story. Remember the reporter was trying to write and article to sell news papers. Sorry IAB, I don't trust the media with the truth.

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    Originally posted by IPMC
    Well, that another thing.............A shotgun or a pistol is not going to take a dogs head off. That was one of the things in the story that told me the reporter was trying to sensationalize the story. Remember the reporter was trying to write and article to sell news papers. Sorry IAB, I don't trust the media with the truth.

    Gotcha. That's why I was wondering what you cops/former cops thought of this.

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    I would be interested to find out the results of this investigation...........

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    This is an example of why video cameras in cop cars are a good thing, not only to protect the cops from people, but also to protect the people from bad cops. As someone who is aspiring to be an officer (have my interview next month) I know there are people out there who abuse their authority and should be punished for it.
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    IAB.........I hate to say it...but Im with IPMC on this!!!! (Not really)
    As part of my last job...I had to check on "family" dogs to see if they were suitable for Customs Drug Detector work. Alot of these medium sized dogs would often wag their tails.....but its not the tail end that you should be paying attention to!!!!

    If the Officer felt in anyway threatened...he had full rights to do as he did. The dog would, and I say with almost 95% certainty, have become aggressive towards the officers if they had in anyway made a move towards the owners.

    I find it a sad story......but lets not let facts get in the way of a great news story!!!! I have seen the great job the media have done in the past to try to sensationalize a story.....to the detrement of the Officer involved!!! Unfortunately, the Officer is hardly able to stand up and give his account......not until the official investigation has been finalized.
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    So what do the cops say to the innocent family whose dog they just killed? "Sorry we pulled you over, and sorry we killed your dog. We know you are innocent. Our bad."

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    Originally posted by esmerelda


    If the Officer felt in anyway threatened...he had full rights to do as he did. The dog would, and I say with almost 95% certainty, have become aggressive towards the officers if they had in anyway made a move towards the owners.
    Did you read the story? The husband and wife asked the cops to close the car door so the dog would not get out. They refused, and the dog got out. That dialogue was taken right from the police video.

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    Yep read the story...unfortunately didnt get the video. I dont know what the ruling is over your way....but over here, the dog is the responsibility of the owner. If they said the dog was in the car, they are supposed to close the door...not the cops. As I said, I feel bad that the dog was killed, but what would have the outcome been if the dog had attacked??? Would the owner pay restitution for the officers injuries.......no.
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    But how could the people close the doors when they were handcuffed and on their knees? Is it that much trouble for an officer to walk over to the car and close a door? I thought it was an officer's duty to "Serve and PROTECT." It seems the dog could have been protected, and that did not happen.

    I'm not venting or anything here, just trying to understand why the officers behaved like they did. I'm sure we'll learn more. This has got to be a public relations disaster for the local police.

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    At which point in the video did the owners let the officers know there was a dog...or was it obvious??? Not getting narkie...just curious!!! And as I am lead to believe...Officers request that the passengers of a car...get out and move away from it....did they not say then that the dog would get out??? There are three passengers arnt there? So one of them surely should have made an effort to let the officer know.................just asking..........
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    Well the video does not really show it. It's in the story. The family was ordered out of the car and on their knees, where they were then handcuffed. At that point, they mentioned the dog.



    "Pamela Smoak is seen on the tape looking up at an officer, telling him slowly, "That dog is not mean. He won't hurt you."

    Her husband says, "I got a dog in the car. I don't want him to jump out."



    The dog then jumped out of the car and the cop popped a cap in him about four seconds later.

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