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    Tren/test enanthate gains?

    I'm currently in the middle of my cycle and this is a question for future reference. For a first time Tren user would this cycle deliver decent gains?
    1-10 test e 500mg
    1-9 Tren e 200mg
    12-15 clomid 100/50/50/50
    12-14 aromasin 12.5/12.5/12.5
    On cycle aromasin and prami if needed

    I understand 200mg is low with Tren enanthate but for a lean bulk would gains still be decent if diet and training is on point?

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    Tren enanthate isn't usually reccomended for a first timer, if you start getting bad side effects it will take up to two weeks for them to go away. That's a pretty conservative dosage though so I think you'll be ok. If you really want to go that route IMO grab another vial of tren E so you can up your dosage slowly through the cycle when you see how you respond. I've seen up to 350mg tren ace reccomended for first timers, which is actually over 400mg [unsure of the exact number] tren E when you factor in ester weight. But yes I think you could still make good gains on that for sure

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    Yeah I was thinking of getting another bottle but the shits expensive from my new source..I bought a vial already for the future(pretty much on impulse) so I probably will just stick to 200mg in the future unless I can get another vial pretty cheap

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    200mg of ace MIGHT do something but with the enan ester you'll be lucky to feel anything. Stick to the ace ester. You'll be really happy. And fuck your source. Look around here.

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    I'm trying to avoid pinning eod for right now..my new source blows cock and is expensive so I'll look around..sloppyj why wouldn't I see gains on 500mg test and 200mg Tren e? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jt123 View Post
    I'm trying to avoid pinning eod for right now..my new source blows cock and is expensive so I'll look around..sloppyj why wouldn't I see gains on 500mg test and 200mg Tren e? Just curious
    Stick to proven beginer cycles, much better off, imo. Get some dbol and sell the tren ! Trust me the side's on tren suck ass !

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    I'm on test and dbol right now. I have oral winny and dbol on hand right now and also Tren enanthate but I'm gonna get some test for next cycle and probably run that with a dbol kickstart and winny at the end and save Tren for the cycle after that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jt123 View Post
    I'm on test and dbol right now. I have oral winny and dbol on hand right now and also Tren enanthate but I'm gonna get some test for next cycle and probably run that with a dbol kickstart and winny at the end and save Tren for the cycle after that

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    How does this sound?
    1-10 test e 400mg
    1-4 40mg dbol
    5-10 300mg Tren enanthate
    Would the Tren have enough time to kick in and have good results in 6 weeks?

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    Not sure if those commenting have actually used Tren E or not, but my first go at it was @ 200mg per week along with 650mg Test and it definitely worked at a low dose. Of course I did have to deal with some insomnia issues as well. Tren is some powerful shit, respect it! Can't wait to give it another shot and next time I'm only gonna up it to 250mg per week. Maybe not enough for some, but plenty for me! Oh and Tren for a second cycle might be jumping the train a little too quick, but that's personal preference I suppose.

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    stick with what you original had and up the TREN-E to 400mg a week. You can pin 2x a week mon and fri. This cycle will give you outstanding gains and your strength will go through the roof with Tren-E both are long actinig esters. I would also do it for 12 weeks if you can. Ive ran this cycle but used Prop instead at 100mg eod and gained 25lbs of solid lean muscle. Keep your eating in check,low sodium,up the water to a gallon a day.And when done do the proper pct/clomin/hcg

    MONDAY-250MG OF TEST-E 200MG OF TREN-E
    FRIDAY - 250MG OF TEST-E 200MG OF TREN-E

    500MG TEST-E a week
    400MG TREN-E a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    200mg of ace MIGHT do something but with the enan ester you'll be lucky to feel anything. Stick to the ace ester. You'll be really happy. And fuck your source. Look around here.

    As Sloppy said stick the the tren ace, if you have no problems with tren then sure move to the E. But for a first time user of tren I'd suggest to dip your toes in with ace to sus out the water.

    And there is plenty of domestic gear on here for you man at good prices.

    All the best

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    Dgettin how long did you run it for and how long did it take to notice the Tren working?
    Fuzo the point of me doing a low dose was what this thread was about. Second run with Tren will definitely be 400mg.
    Mr.btb thanks for the advice and I will take it into consideration and trust me I'm gonna be searching hard for a good source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jt123 View Post
    How does this sound?
    1-10 test e 400mg
    1-4 40mg dbol
    5-10 300mg Tren enanthate
    Would the Tren have enough time to kick in and have good results in 6 weeks?

    Five weeks is WAY to short for the Enanthate ester. Anything under 10-12 weeks, I would run Ace. Also, with a long estered Tren, you want to end it two weeks before your test or recovery will be a bitch. You'll also want to add HCG to your cycle to help with recovery, and caber to combat prolactin sides. I haven't seen any mention of these two key compounds, which leads me to believe that you are not ready to run Tren. It is not a compound for novices, and it is obvious that you haven't done your research. Sorry to be so harsh, but believe me I'm looking out for your best interests.

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    I appreciate it but in my first post I mention I'll be taken prami on cycle along with aromasin. I knw Tren and deca are very hard to recover from but I figured 10 week cycle isn't extremely long and I would pct with clomid and aromasin.

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    I would always run hcg with deca or tren, it's not expensive and will make your recovery much smoother. That means less feeling like shit during pct and keeping more of your gains, which is a small price to pay. At least grab one vial and run it at 500 iu 2x a week, for the 5 weeks leading up to pct

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    I would run it (HCG) my whole cycle if I had any 19-nors in there. And blast before PCT. But that's me.

    Dude just accept the fact that tren E isn't going to do it for you at this point and move on. I know you already have it but look around at some sponsors here and you'll be set for cheap. We're not trying to be dicks, we're just looking out for you.

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    I appreciate it guys. This isn't for my next cycle so I have loads of time to still set everything up I was just curious..it's just that I would hate to pin ED or EOD with acetate.
    If I end up doing acetate would this be solid
    1-10 test 400mg
    4-10 Tren acetate 75mg eod
    Aromasin 12.5 Ed whole cycle and prami .25 mg Ed on Tren

    Or if I did enanthate since I have it already I might just get another bottle
    1-11 test e 400mg
    2-10 Tren e 300mg
    Same dosing for aromasin and prami as listed above
    Pct: clomid 100/100/50/25
    Aromasin 12.5/12.5/12.5
    Hcg the last 5 weeks of cycle leading up to pct 500iu 2x a week
    Would either cycle suffice. And I understand choosing ace over enanthate but with enanthate being at only 300mg a week and using prami the sides can't be too bad

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    But if the sides are bad then you're fucked. It's really not a thing you want to chance. I was in your boat too. I didn't want to pin ED. I pin my long esters on MWF and then I slin pin my delts with tren on the other days. It's really easy and super effective. You have time to think about it. Also, ED injections worked much better for me.

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    Since your already rolling stick with current dose. first time I ran tren I did test 200/ tren 200 and had awsome gains, but everyone is diffrent and you might repond as well.

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    Bwrag I haven't started the cycle yet lol. I'm in the middle of a cycle as we speak, but really good gains on 200 test and 200tren e? How long did you run it for and what was your cycle experience?
    Thanks alot sloppy you've been a big help
    Quick question: how come test enanthate is recommended for first timers but prop isn't? Wouldn't the same rules apply if somebody reacted bad to a high amount of test? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jt123 View Post
    Bwrag I haven't started the cycle yet lol. I'm in the middle of a cycle as we speak, but really good gains on 200 test and 200tren e? How long did you run it for and what was your cycle experience?
    Thanks alot sloppy you've been a big help
    Quick question: how come test enanthate is recommended for first timers but prop isn't? Wouldn't the same rules apply if somebody reacted bad to a high amount of test? Just curious
    You could use prop for the first time. Just more pinning and that's not what a noobie needs. We already have test in our bodies. The sides aren't even 10% of tren's, granted you stick to a resonable dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jt123 View Post
    Bwrag I haven't started the cycle yet lol. I'm in the middle of a cycle as we speak, but really good gains on 200 test and 200tren e? How long did you run it for and what was your cycle experience?
    Thanks alot sloppy you've been a big help
    Quick question: how come test enanthate is recommended for first timers but prop isn't? Wouldn't the same rules apply if somebody reacted bad to a high amount of test? Just curious

    10 weeks leaned up and gained about 10 lbs I was doing keto at the time, you cant beat tren IMO, I was fortunate not to have any sides. You may not be the same.

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    My first Time I'd stick to 300mg max with enanthate for 8-9 wks. I understand about test and sides compared to Tren. I'm fortunate enough not to get sides from test and dbol so we'll see how the next cycle treats me

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    I would run it (HCG) my whole cycle if I had any 19-nors in there. And blast before PCT. But that's me.

    Dude just accept the fact that tren E isn't going to do it for you at this point and move on. I know you already have it but look around at some sponsors here and you'll be set for cheap. We're not trying to be dicks, we're just looking out for you.


    everything sloppy said bro!

    you should use the ace...if you do hit it hard you will be happy you used ace...its a little quicker

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    If you want less pokes do the test-e tren-e cycle M-F you want more pokes add the tren ace . As for sides with TREN-E I surely didnt have any and I was running 600mg of it and I had great tren-E. And you do what you find easiest. We tell you a whole bunch of ideas but you have choices. More pokes,less pokes. As for sides they come with using AAS get used to them and deal with them.And just because someone has bad side affects from gear doesnt mean you will. Take the necessary precautions with bloating at what GMO said and you will be fine.Trial by error

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
    If you want less pokes do the test-e tren-e cycle M-F you want more pokes add the tren ace . As for sides with TREN-E I surely didnt have any and I was running 600mg of it and I had great tren-E. And you do what you find easiest. We tell you a whole bunch of ideas but you have choices. More pokes,less pokes. As for sides they come with using AAS get used to them and deal with them.And just because someone has bad side affects from gear doesnt mean you will. Take the necessary precautions with bloating at what GMO said and you will be fine.Trial by error

    You are lucky my brother.

    Many if my friends hit the tren side hardcore! and fuck me I wont do it now. I wish I could but the hits are to hard!
    You are lucky!

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    Im worried about sides but that's why I'm being very conservative with the dose. And also I'm gonna run a lower dose of test than usual and I won't use any other compounds because I wanna see and pinpoint where the sides are coming from. And also that test and Tren should deliver amazing gains so there shouldn't be a need for any orals for the first time with Tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jt123 View Post
    How does this sound?
    1-10 test e 400mg
    1-4 40mg dbol
    5-10 300mg Tren enanthate
    Would the Tren have enough time to kick in and have good results in 6 weeks?
    If running Tren for 5-6 weeks, repalce the long enanthate ester with Tren Ace.

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    You have to find the doses that work for you. To many times on these forums I see ridiculously low and high doses recommended. For tren I would start out low and feel it out. then if appropriate increase the dose. If you are doing well at 200 mg/w then why not stay there and reap the bennies of that dose? Your objective is performance enhancement not to deal with really uncomfortable sides the whole while. This isn't some adolescent drinking game to see who can tolerate the most before puking.
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