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    BULKING and CUTTING cycles Redone

    Sorry guys..im really indecisive.

    So my bulking cycle is going to look like this, I have decided. Going to start in about 6 weeks or so

    10 weeks

    Test Prop 500mg a week
    tren ace 700mg a week
    a drol 100mg ED for first 7 weeks
    winstrol oral 50mg ED for weeks 2-7

    Masteron E 1.25 gram a week (stopping in week 8) (I have heard that very high masteron is great so Im wanting to try it out, also terrified of adrol for gyno (first time user) so Im planning on the masteron helping prevention at least a little)

    adex .5mg EOD
    caber .5mg 2x a week
    pct 3 days after last prop shot nolva 40/40/20/20



    then my cutting cycle

    10 weeks

    Test prop 350mg a week
    tren ace 700mg a week
    masteron (8 weeks 1250mg a week)
    DNP (will look more into this but I am definitely going to use it)

    GP methyltrienolone 3-4 weeks 750mcg ED

    caber .5mg 2x a week
    adex .25mg eod

    pct nolva 40/40/20/20



    I know these cycles may look a bit excessive, but I know that if I use the questionable compounds (methyltrienolone and dnp) the way they are meant to be used, then I won't run into any difficulty.

    If there is anything structurally wrong with my cycles, or anything you would add to them, please give me your suggestions..



    thanks as always guys

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    why are u running winni in a bulking cycle?
    **All information discussed is for entertainment purposes only!**

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    help with strength, help keep the water weight off..


    people say it can help with progesterone levels but im not using it for that purpose..if it helps, cool.. if it doesnt, no big deal.

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    Here we go again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    Here we go again.....
    hey sloppy, i know this may take you out of your comfort zone, but how about posting something useful?


    it's good to try new things every once and a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    hey sloppy, i know this may take you out of your comfort zone, but how about posting something useful?


    it's good to try new things every once and a while.

    You should take your own advice on that one, cupcake...

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    Your test and tren doses look better man, but seriously adrol and winni are some of the top hepatic toxic orals their are. 100 mg adrol for 7 weeks with winni isn't even rational or logical. Second you say your a new user of adrol, and you wanna run 100mg ed WHY! Im starting to think you like getting people worked up man. And honestly man Sloppy is an educated guy so i would take his advice serious, and you say for him to post something useful well he would if your cycles were rational. But heres My advice cut the adrol to 50 mg for 4 wks, one because of toxicity two because you don't know how your body will react. 2nd drop the winni has no place in that cycle, if you want to keep water down up the adex. 3rd cut the masteron dose down and stretch it out a little longer! Most of all take advice from people that know their shit man, oh and id go get some blood work done!

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    thank you littlekev


    the thing is, sloppy hasnt given me advice at all...he just talks shit, which is annoying and stupid.


    How am i supposed to respect his knowledge if he just chooses to say dumb half-witted stuff all the time?


    i will take your reccomendation on the adrol and the winny. thanks a lot bro.


    the masteron i want to leave, because its for the sake of experimentation

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    I've tried to help you. But you don't listen to ANYONE'S advice so I quit trying if you want my advice here it is.

    Taking Drol and Winny at the same time is irresponsible to say the least. Two methylated orals are going to CRUSH your liver. Straight tear it up. And what's the point? Drol is gonna bulk you to shit. And for 7 weeks at that? Jesus. Respect your body. You DO NOT NEED this much to grow. Your diet must be WAY off.

    Prop looks fine to me.

    Tren is too high but looks better than last time. I see NO REASON why someone needs more than 525mg of tren EW. There isn't one unless your fucking Cutler.

    Why mast E? You're taking short esters, stick to it.

    Use clomid for PCT. Where's the HCG with the 19-nor?


    Sorry to be so blunt but if you wanna call me out then there it is son. Thanks.
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    thank you sloppy, and yes i have chosen to drop the winny, and reduce the period of time for the adrol.


    the masteron E is just for experimentation, the amount of injection volume that i would have to do on a daily basis to get that level with short esters would be too much for me. Plus 1250 should hit me reasonably fast i believe.

    short estered masteron is also really expensive.

    i have never had difficulty recovering from being shut down by tren with just simple nolva, i have run a 12 week cycle of tren and recovered fine with blood work to show for it.

    since nolva has worked for me in the past.. and clomid makes me REALLY unstable like.. REALLY REALLY...

    i think im going to stick with nolva + caber for pct.


    thank you again



    anyone have advice on the cutting cycle?

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    You don't really listen to anyone's advice. But I will say this, you better have a liver transplant waiting for you if you plan to do drol/winnie for 7 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    anyone have advice on the cutting cycle?

    Is it just my imagination or has this been discussed twice already...

    http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/144743-cutting-cycle-redux.html


    http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...ing-cycle.html

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    "Standard Donkey 21 years old"

    You need to do more reading buddy....here's your first tip:

    Bulking and cutting is diet based, not compound based. I bulk on tren, and cut with drol.

    Heres your second tip: KISS- Keep it short and simple.

    -T


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    Thought it was "Keep it simple stupid"?
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    Another topic? Jeebus fuk. U complain about costs yet plan to overdose the shut out of everything. Just makes no fukin sense. More isn't better.

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