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    Second Cycle Ideas?

    at the end of week 8 for my first cycle which is Test E/Dbol. Week 9 starts tomorrow and so far I'm up 20 lbs from my starting weight. Surprisingly I didn't lose much weight after stopping dbol? like I saw the water "look" leave but tangible weight wise the scale didn't change.... Now here is where it get confusing.... I know the standard second cycle tends to be Test/Deca or variation of some sort. I'm trying to do a lean bulk because I figured I was gaining too much fat so I was gonna go the dumb route and run Tren cause I wasn't worried about the sides.... but after taking a picture of myself today, I see differently. I still wanna pack on more mass so I came to the conclusion Test/EQ or Test/Deca. problem is I really dont want to run a 14-16 week cycle with EQ and Im terrified of Deca dick and gaining a ton of water. What do you guys think?

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    roughly 220 (as of recently. Still haven't lost any water weight yet cause still on cycle)

    Not sure of BF? scale said 18% but dont believe it. Here is pic:



    please excuse the shitty edit

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    i was going to say dbol test but u already did it lmao. Ill let someone else chime in as i have no experiance or knowlede with Deca or EQ best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
    i was going to say dbol test but u already did it lmao. Ill let someone else chime in as i have no experiance or knowlede with Deca or EQ best of luck!
    thanks bro appreciate it

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    Well why not either do a similar cycle but use tbol as a kicker e.g.

    1-10 test e 600mg ew
    1-6 tbol 60mg ed
    1-12 adex.5 mg eod
    13-16 PCT

    or alternatively run an 8 week short ester cycle using NPP(short ester deca and prop)
    1-8 test prop 150mg eod
    1-8 Npp 100mg eod
    1-8 adex.5 mg eod
    1-8 caber .5 mg e3d
    9-12 PCT

    that is if your comfortable with eod pinning
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    Quote Originally Posted by trapzilla View Post
    Well why not either do a similar cycle but use tbol as a kicker e.g.

    1-10 test e 600mg ew
    1-6 tbol 60mg ed
    1-12 adex.5 mg eod
    13-16 PCT

    or alternatively run an 8 week short ester cycle using NPP(short ester deca and prop)
    1-8 test prop 150mg eod
    1-8 Npp 100mg eod
    1-8 adex.5 mg eod
    1-8 caber .5 mg e3d
    9-12 PCT

    that is if your comfortable with eod pinning

    Dont mind EOD pinning but the only problem is I still currently still have enough test E for the next 3 cycles. pharm grade too. so definitely wont be going with prop. also figure if I go with Nandrolone I might as well go with Deca to stack with the Enan over NPP right? Also didn't need Adex cause I never got side effects and judging by the pictures I didn't really gain much water retention either. see why this is so hard for me to decide? Either way I appreciate your input

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwabby6 View Post
    Dont mind EOD pinning but the only problem is I still currently still have enough test E for the next 3 cycles. pharm grade too. so definitely wont be going with prop. also figure if I go with Nandrolone I might as well go with Deca to stack with the Enan over NPP right? Also didn't need Adex cause I never got side effects and judging by the pictures I didn't really gain much water retention either. see why this is so hard for me to decide? Either way I appreciate your input
    Well there is your answer haha!

    dbol weeks 1-4 50mg
    Test e weeks 1-14 600mg
    deca weeks 1-12 400mg
    caber weeks 1-14 .5mg e3d
    pretty much answered it yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by trapzilla View Post
    Well there is your answer haha!

    dbol weeks 1-4 50mg
    Test e weeks 1-14 600mg
    deca weeks 1-12 400mg
    caber weeks 1-14 .5mg e3d
    pretty much answered it yourself
    lol thanks. Also trapz, have you ran deca or eq yourself? do you think running eq for 14-16 weeks is a better replacement than possibly running into Deca dick or is deca dick not as pronounced as people on the internet make it seem?

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    Yeah I have run both. Deca gave me some libido issues as I ran test too low for my own personal preference. But it wasn't that pronounced really and is now very much rectified.
    EQ for 16 weeks is what i'm finisihing up on now, the gains are not as great as Deca but are harder, and i'm more vascular so it depends which you would prefer really.

    If it was me and i wanted to bulk I'd go deca. recomp i'd go eq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trapzilla View Post
    Well why not either do a similar cycle but use tbol as a kicker e.g.

    1-10 test e 600mg ew
    1-6 tbol 60mg ed
    1-12 adex.5 mg eod
    13-16 PCT

    or alternatively run an 8 week short ester cycle using NPP(short ester deca and prop)
    1-8 test prop 150mg eod
    1-8 Npp 100mg eod
    1-8 adex.5 mg eod
    1-8 caber .5 mg e3d
    9-12 PCT

    that is if your comfortable with eod pinning
    I'd go with/listen to trapz, Kwabby6...
    He knows alot, & has helped me very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwabby6 View Post
    at the end of week 8 for my first cycle which is Test E/Dbol. Week 9 starts tomorrow and so far I'm up 20 lbs from my starting weight. Surprisingly I didn't lose much weight after stopping dbol? like I saw the water "look" leave but tangible weight wise the scale didn't change.... Now here is where it get confusing.... I know the standard second cycle tends to be Test/Deca or variation of some sort. I'm trying to do a lean bulk because I figured I was gaining too much fat so I was gonna go the dumb route and run Tren cause I wasn't worried about the sides.... but after taking a picture of myself today, I see differently. I still wanna pack on more mass so I came to the conclusion Test/EQ or Test/Deca. problem is I really dont want to run a 14-16 week cycle with EQ and Im terrified of Deca dick and gaining a ton of water. What do you guys think?

    Stats:
    6'2
    roughly 220 (as of recently. Still haven't lost any water weight yet cause still on cycle)

    Not sure of BF? scale said 18% but dont believe it. Here is pic:



    please excuse the shitty edit
    I think your somewhere around 10-12%

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    didn't have any problems getting it up on deca, did carry some extra water though even with .5mg a-dex everyday and I'm not a fan of looking bloated lol. Diet had to be super strict or I got soft as a motherfucker :P

    I say go with tren if that's what your heart desires, stick with ace and if the sides become too much then drop the dose. Make sure you use caber and of course eat tons of food and it'll still be a nice bulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen View Post
    I'd go with/listen to trapz, Kwabby6...
    He knows alot, & has helped me very much
    Thanks. Thought it over and I think im gonna stick with Mainly Test/oral cycles till I either see no more gains or switch my mind. That is the smartest way to go about it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjpeters4 View Post
    I think your somewhere around 10-12%
    lol exactly what I was thinking

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