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    My PCT after 8 months of blasting and cruising






    Ok, so I took my last shot of test 1 week ago after running a blast-cruise-blast. I'm going to keep a log of how it goes, with bloodwork to help those guys that are thinking of coming off of blasting and cruising.
    I'm 32 y/o, 5'8," 205, 15% bodyfat, done having kids.

    My first blast:
    14 weeks of test e at 500 mg/week. then bumped it up to 750 mg for last 5 weeks.

    cruise:
    5 weeks of test e at 250mg/week.

    second blast:
    15 weeks of test e at 500/week
    13 weeks of mast at 350 mg/week
    4 weeks of tren at 350/week. had to drop tren early due to high bp.

    I ran aromasin, HCG (1000 iu/week) throughout, and ran caber while on tren.

    Here is my pct (5 weeks):


    • 1000 iu of HCG EOD while test clears.


    • aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
    • clomid 100/100/50/50/50
    • nolva 20/20/20/10/10
    • cialis if needed-

    I chose to run nolva and clomid because there seems to be some disagreement as to which is better for pct. Additionally, I have a lot of respect for Dr. Scally and he recommends both.

    I am fully aware of the risk I took from being on for so long, but it's the decision that I chose, and I'm going to deal with it. I have to say that I'm looking forward to being clean for a while. It gets stressful having to constantly deal with estrogen levels, prolactin levels, shot timing, bunk AI's etc. So, I'm anxious to get back to some natural training for a while.

    My biggest fear is ED while in pct. I can handle loss of strength, depression etc. But, the ED is not ok.


    • How many of you guys get ED while in pct?
    • Any input is appreciated

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    How did you feel going from a blast to a cruise? Did you run any hcg during your on time?
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    Subbed...I am running a rather long cycle now myself, so I will be interested in this log, especially with the blood work.

    Personally, I have never had ED issues during PCT. Decreased libido? Yes, but actually ED...no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    How did you feel going from a blast to a cruise? Did you run any hcg during your on time?
    I didn't really feel that much different, strength gains stalled though. I suspect I didn't cruise for long enough to notice much of a difference.

    I ran hcg 500 iu twice weekly throughout both blasts and the cruise.

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    BigMoe, He ran it throughout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Ok, so I took my last shot of test 1 week ago after running a blast-cruise-blast. I'm going to keep a log of how it goes, with bloodwork to help those guys that are thinking of coming off of blasting and cruising.
    I'm 32 y/o, 5'8," 205, 15% bodyfat, done having kids.

    My first blast:
    14 weeks of test e at 500 mg/week. then bumped it up to 750 mg for last 5 weeks.

    cruise:
    5 weeks of test e at 250mg/week.

    second blast:
    15 weeks of test e at 500/week
    13 weeks of mast at 350 mg/week
    4 weeks of tren at 350/week. had to drop tren early due to high bp.

    I ran aromasin, HCG (1000 iu/week) throughout, and ran caber while on tren.

    Here is my pct (5 weeks):


    • 1000 iu of HCG EOD while test clears.


    • aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
    • clomid 100/100/50/50/50
    • nolva 20/20/20/10/10
    • cialis if needed-

    I chose to run nolva and clomid because there seems to be some disagreement as to which is better for pct. Additionally, I have a lot of respect for Dr. Scally and he recommends both.

    I am fully aware of the risk I took from being on for so long, but it's the decision that I chose, and I'm going to deal with it. I have to say that I'm looking forward to being clean for a while. It gets stressful having to constantly deal with estrogen levels, prolactin levels, shot timing, bunk AI's etc. So, I'm anxious to get back to some natural training for a while.

    My biggest fear is ED while in pct. I can handle loss of strength, depression etc. But, the ED is not ok.


    • How many of you guys get ED while in pct?
    • Any input is appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Subbed...I am running a rather long cycle now myself, so I will be interested in this log, especially with the blood work.

    Personally, I have never had ED issues during PCT. Decreased libido? Yes, but actually ED...no.

    This is great to hear! thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    I didn't really feel that much different, strength gains stalled though. I suspect I didn't cruise for long enough to notice much of a difference.

    I ran hcg 500 iu twice weekly throughout both blasts and the cruise.
    I think you will recover just fine then. What were your test levels naturally before the blast and cruise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anxious1 View Post
    BigMoe, He ran it throughout.

    Edit... He beat me to it
    Duh! I should stop speed reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    I think you will recover just fine then. What were your test levels naturally before the blast and cruise?
    I made the mistake of not testing them. I suspect everything was normal, I've never had any health problems, and always felt great. And, this is my first real run with aas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    Duh! I should stop speed reading.
    It's hard to keep up with all of these threads at times...

    It's understandable.
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    I ran about 6 cycles in my early to mid twenties with no pct, my last lab test in the AM I was 541ng/nl. Im thinking with you doing all the right things you will recover.
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    this should definitely be interesting, wishing you luck bro

    I'm thinking since you ran hcg throughout everything should go surprisingly smooth though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    this should definitely be interesting, wishing you luck bro

    I'm thinking since you ran hcg throughout everything should go surprisingly smooth though
    Thanks, I sure hope so.

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    We will be having similar logs as I too am facing the reality of taking a break from gear. I was considering cruising but I'm leaning more toward clearing my system and going natty for a while. However, I have NOT ran HCG throughout my nearly 10 month long blast so I'm banking on my PCT protocol. Have Clomid, Nolva and Adex for PCT. Not sure what natty levels were prior to this long cycle but I suspect they were well in the average range. 2,206 ng/dL was the level mid-way through cycle. Thyroid and cholesterol were a disaster so I stopped the orals and been riding out the final stretch on Test and Primo which has been a very enjoyable experience.

    Note to God - please don't let ED happen to me.

    Will get lab work after PCT to see where things stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    We will be having similar logs as I too am facing the reality of taking a break from gear. I was considering cruising but I'm leaning more toward clearing my system and going natty for a while. However, I have NOT ran HCG throughout my nearly 10 month long blast so I'm banking on my PCT protocol. Have Clomid, Nolva and Adex for PCT. Not sure what natty levels were prior to this long cycle but I suspect they were well in the average range. 2,206 ng/dL was the level mid-way through cycle. Thyroid and cholesterol were a disaster so I stopped the orals and been riding out the final stretch on Test and Primo which has been a very enjoyable experience.

    Note to God - please don't let ED happen to me
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    Will get lab work after PCT to see where things stand.
    I hear ya man. I'd rather be weak and puny with a working dick, then ripped with a limp dick.

    On a positive note, a lot of what I have read is that low testosterone is rarely the cause of ED, but it's usually more of a circulation problem. I wonder if guys that experience ED during PCT is because their libido is so low that they just aren't interested.

    I look forward to your log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    I hear ya man. I'd rather be weak and puny with a working dick, then ripped with a limp dick.

    On a positive note, a lot of what I have read is that low testosterone is rarely the cause of ED, but it's usually more of a circulation problem. I wonder if guys that experience ED during PCT is because their libido is so low that they just aren't interested.

    I look forward to your log.
    Will keep you posted as well. Still have a few weeks to go (assuming I don't get "cold feet" and choose to cruise, lol).

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    Subbed. My libido is usually nuked during the first 3 weeks of PCT, but usually come week 4 I start getting morning wood again. All of my cycles have been 10-14 weeks though.

    There's not a worse feeling than waiting on your dick to get hard, because you never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    We will be having similar logs as I too am facing the reality of taking a break from gear. I was considering cruising but I'm leaning more toward clearing my system and going natty for a while. However, I have NOT ran HCG throughout my nearly 10 month long blast so I'm banking on my PCT protocol. Have Clomid, Nolva and Adex for PCT. Not sure what natty levels were prior to this long cycle but I suspect they were well in the average range. 2,206 ng/dL was the level mid-way through cycle. Thyroid and cholesterol were a disaster so I stopped the orals and been riding out the final stretch on Test and Primo which has been a very enjoyable experience.

    Note to God - please don't let ED happen to me.

    Will get lab work after PCT to see where things stand.
    Please get blood work when youre done because Im real curious how well you recover. I have a suspicion you will be fine.
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    Are either of u looking to take a dosage of triptorelin to start pct off? Most say libido is raging throughout pct post injection altho total test is another story.

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    Sub'd. Good luck bro.
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    Sub'd.

    I've got a close friend in the cruise faze of his B-C-B. I'm also considering doing this myself. Good luck bro, looking forward to the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteTruth View Post
    Subbed. My libido is usually nuked during the first 3 weeks of PCT, but usually come week 4 I start getting morning wood again. All of my cycles have been 10-14 weeks though.

    There's not a worse feeling than waiting on your dick to get hard, because you never know.

    thanks for the input.
    Is it just your libido that is gone, or do you actually have trouble getting it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pieguy View Post
    Are either of u looking to take a dosage of triptorelin to start pct off? Most say libido is raging throughout pct post injection altho total test is another story.
    digitalash also recommended this, but honestly I'm ignorant about it. I'm also scared to try something that is fairly new and doesn't have a lot of feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    digitalash also recommended this, but honestly I'm ignorant about it. I'm also scared to try something that is fairly new and doesn't have a lot of feedback.
    also dont try to think about it too much because that can cause problems too.
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    What about upping your HCG dosage a little bit? Or doing a blast dose in order to jumpstart it all... (I know you've already been running it) If you are really worried about ED, then you could add some peptides in there to make sure you get hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    thanks for the input.
    Is it just your libido that is gone, or do you actually have trouble getting it up?
    Well it will get up if I force it to if you know what I mean, but not quite to the point of ED. Usually no amount of naked women or porn even phases me for the first 2 weeks or so. Tribulus, Trans-resveratrol, and horny goat weed 2-3 times a day will help tremendously on the natty side. If you've been running HCG throughout, it will make things go much smoother for you as well.

    Like moe said too, some of it could be you psyching yourself out. Libido recovery has always been a slow process for me. I wouldn't start worrying until you are at least 4 weeks into PCT and you get your bloods done.

    I've looked into triptorelin but I'm with you on this one. Not enough facts yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anxious1 View Post
    What about upping your HCG dosage a little bit? Or doing a blast dose in order to jumpstart it all... (I know you've already been running it) If you are really worried about ED, then you could add some peptides in there to make sure you get hard.
    I have upped the hcg from 500 iu twice a week to 1000iu eod. And, I don't really expect to get ED, I've always been easily excited and have never had a problem. Just the thought freaks me out though. And, I've got some cialis just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteTruth View Post
    Well it will get up if I force it to if you know what I mean, but not quite to the point of ED. Usually no amount of naked women or porn even phases me for the first 2 weeks or so. Tribulus, Trans-resveratrol, and horny goat weed 2-3 times a day will help tremendously on the natty side. If you've been running HCG throughout, it will make things go much smoother for you as well.

    Like moe said too, some of it could be you psyching yourself out. Libido recovery has always been a slow process for me. I wouldn't start worrying until you are at least 4 weeks into PCT and you get your bloods done.

    I've looked into triptorelin but I'm with you on this one. Not enough facts yet.
    thanks. It sounds similar to other guys who just have no will to get it up, but not actually a problem.

    I've read about psychogenic ED too, so I know to not be too focused on it or it will make it worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    thanks. It sounds similar to other guys who just have no will to get it up, but not actually a problem.

    I've read about psychogenic ED too, so I know to not be too focused on it or it will make it worse.
    Absolutely. Having cialis on hand is never bad thing either. Especially if the occasion calls for it Sometimes you just need a little kickstart.
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