Pharmacom Store


My PCT after 8 months of blasting and cruising

Page 3 of 11 FirstFirst 1234567 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 163
  1. #31
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    earth
    Posts
    2,741

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    137490397

    so just my experience

    i did an 8 month cycle that started last october..anyway i used hcg at 500iu a week.
    i ran 500mg test for 14 weeks then cruised on 250mg test for like 10 weeks and then like 16 weeks of 500mg test 400mg tren..

    while test cleared hcg 1000iu ed
    my pct was just clomid and aromasin for 4 weeks

    anyway like 10 weeks after pct i had my test levels and such..my total test was 180ish and my lh and fsh was .2..so i was still shut down obviously..

    anyway i went back on and did a 10 week cycle..

    while test cleared i did 1000iu ed
    last week i started 50mcg of triptorelin for a total of 200mcg..i am running aromasin along with it to at 25/25/25/12.5

    in december which will be 7 weeks past my pct i am gonna get labs and hope to get lab results in range..wish me luck! and goodluck to u also man. btw i am 26 and beforehand my test levels when i was 23 were like 680..so just letting u know my experience

  2. #32
    Marriage is WONDERFUL !!!
    fsoe's Avatar


    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,231

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    35062970

    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Ok, so I took my last shot of test 1 week ago after running a blast-cruise-blast. I'm going to keep a log of how it goes, with bloodwork to help those guys that are thinking of coming off of blasting and cruising.
    I'm 32 y/o, 5'8," 205, 15% bodyfat, done having kids.

    My first blast:
    14 weeks of test e at 500 mg/week. then bumped it up to 750 mg for last 5 weeks.

    cruise:
    5 weeks of test e at 250mg/week.

    second blast:
    15 weeks of test e at 500/week
    13 weeks of mast at 350 mg/week
    4 weeks of tren at 350/week. had to drop tren early due to high bp.

    I ran aromasin, HCG (1000 iu/week) throughout, and ran caber while on tren.

    Here is my pct (5 weeks):


    • 1000 iu of HCG EOD while test clears.


    • aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
    • clomid 100/100/50/50/50
    • nolva 20/20/20/10/10
    • cialis if needed-

    I chose to run nolva and clomid because there seems to be some disagreement as to which is better for pct. Additionally, I have a lot of respect for Dr. Scally and he recommends both.

    I am fully aware of the risk I took from being on for so long, but it's the decision that I chose, and I'm going to deal with it. I have to say that I'm looking forward to being clean for a while. It gets stressful having to constantly deal with estrogen levels, prolactin levels, shot timing, bunk AI's etc. So, I'm anxious to get back to some natural training for a while.

    My biggest fear is ED while in pct. I can handle loss of strength, depression etc. But, the ED is not ok.


    • How many of you guys get ED while in pct?
    • Any input is appreciated
    my last pct was in Jan - march after a 20 week run and I had major ED problems, so bad I went to the my doc and he said at my age 34 it was un common for ed, BUT MY ED WAS DUE TO ANABOLICS ... so he suggested shorter runs 6-8 weeks, then cruise 2-3 months , then run 6-8 weeks.... basically he told me just do shorter runs its easier to recover and then just cruise.... he told me at 35 with my anabolic use just t]get on and get committed ... he has been on gh and test for 17 years straight...

    so that is what I am gonna do after my next 16 week run in the spring , I am preping for a show next july and then I am done with long runs

  3. #33
    Registered User
    exphys88's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    The Summit
    Posts
    5,174

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    500743821

    Damn, you guys freak me out!

    What's your guys' cycle history?

    fsoe: did cruising alleviate the ED problems?

    Thank you guys for the input, even though you have caused me anxiety.

  4. #34
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    245

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    8668316

    Good Luck , im sure youll recover fine bruh. Im running a long cycle myself, a slingshot type thing. Coming down for the summer all ripped...

  5. #35
    Marriage is WONDERFUL !!!
    fsoe's Avatar


    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,231

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    35062970

    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Damn, you guys freak me out!

    What's your guys' cycle history?

    fsoe: did cruising alleviate the ED problems?

    Thank you guys for the input, even though you have caused me anxiety.
    yes ... it made all the diff. in the world.... no problems at all now... and I will never run tren without proviron again.... its helps me soooooooo much !!!!

  6. #36
    SFW, GFH, or GTFO
    GreatWhiteTruth's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    127.0.0.1
    Posts
    612

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    30343168

    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Damn, you guys freak me out!

    ...

    Thank you guys for the input, even though you have caused me anxiety.
    You're psyching yourself out man! I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. You're taking all the necessary pre-cautions and being smart about it. And like I mentioned earlier, natty supplements like tribulus and HGW always make a great addition to any PCT. It just takes patience.

  7. #37
    Registered User
    BigBird's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    2,015

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    107783325

    Yes, def run Proviron with Tren, lol.

    Psychological aspects/fear of ED can play a large role in the actual occurrence of ED too. Due to the fact that I've been a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus for the past 11 months, my wife would probably LOVE if I have ED for a few weeks. lol. Poor girl could use some recovery time which I have not allowed her to have. However, she is capable of multiple orgasms while I give her oral pleasure so if I have to endure ED, I will at least keep her happy somewhat until my tube steak can finally stiffen up and party. (it helps that I am the only guy she has ever been with so I know that I get to kiss and lick a p*ssy that tastes like strawberry shortcake and has not been invaded by some other dirty prick, haha). As a result, my self esteem and "manhood" won't take quite such a hit as my tongue will still be able to send her to another "planet" until the dick wakes up - that is, if ED becomes a short term reality. I would like to run Proviron throughout pct but I have read this is a no-no.

    Viagra and Cialis on hand as they will probably be needed. Might be wise to get some hcg for PCT seeing that I have not ran hcg at all during this 11 month blast. I'm hoping NOt to need trt but if I do, I do. I created my own situation and am willing to accept the outcome.

    Sorry for vulgar details to anyone who may be offended.

  8. #38
    Registered User
    exphys88's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    The Summit
    Posts
    5,174

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    500743821

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    Yes, def run Proviron with Tren, lol.

    Psychological aspects/fear of ED can play a large role in the actual occurrence of ED too. Due to the fact that I've been a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus for the past 11 months, my wife would probably LOVE if I have ED for a few weeks. lol. Poor girl could use some recovery time which I have not allowed her to have. However, she is capable of multiple orgasms while I give her oral pleasure so if I have to endure ED, I will at least keep her happy somewhat until my tube steak can finally stiffen up and party. (it helps that I am the only guy she has ever been with so I know that I get to kiss and lick a p*ssy that tastes like strawberry shortcake and has not been invaded by some other dirty prick, haha). As a result, my self esteem and "manhood" won't take quite such a hit as my tongue will still be able to send her to another "planet" until the dick wakes up - that is, if ED becomes a short term reality. I would like to run Proviron throughout pct but I have read this is a no-no.

    Viagra and Cialis on hand as they will probably be needed. Might be wise to get some hcg for PCT seeing that I have not ran hcg at all during this 11 month blast. I'm hoping NOt to need trt but if I do, I do. I created my own situation and am willing to accept the outcome.

    Sorry for vulgar details to anyone who may be offended.
    Great post, no need to apologize. I think my wife will be a little relieved too, that tren makes me a sexual predator. And, my wife is very fond of the tongue as well, but hopefully if I have a problem, it's only short lived.

    I'm in the same boat as you are, I made this decision knowingly full well the risks I was taking, and I'm prepared for whatever happens.

    I am curious if anyone knows of guys recovering after cycles this long? I remember glycomann posting that he recovered his test levels after 2 years of HRT.

  9. #39
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    earth
    Posts
    2,741

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    137490397

    ya man it is possible to recover after being on for extended periods of time, but not everyone does..just stick to your pct, mabe extend it out 8 weeks..and get some lab work like 4 to 8 weeks after your done with your pct

  10. #40
    SFW, GFH, or GTFO
    GreatWhiteTruth's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    127.0.0.1
    Posts
    612

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    30343168

    Quote Originally Posted by keith1569 View Post
    ya man it is possible to recover after being on for extended periods of time, but not everyone does..just stick to your pct, mabe extend it out 8 weeks..and get some lab work like 4 to 8 weeks after your done with your pct
    Absolutely. More recovery time is never a bad thing.

  11. #41
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    earth
    Posts
    2,741

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    137490397

    for example if i dont recover from my current pct im gonna give 1000iu hcg ed a go for like 8 weeks then followeed by 8 weeks of 50mg 2x a day of clomid and see if that does the trick..if not well...idk hrt i suppose

  12. #42
    Registered User
    exphys88's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    The Summit
    Posts
    5,174

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    500743821

    I've seen Dr. Scally recommend an HCG test to determine if someone is either primary or secondary hypogonadism.

    He does 2000 iu every third day for 30 days, and has test levels checked after the 5th or 6th shot. If test levels aren't normal after that then you have primary hypogonadism. Meaning, that it's the testicles that are the problem.

    If test levels are normal after the HCG test, then it's secondary hypo and your pituitary and/or hypothalamus is the cause of low test levels. Meaning that there isn't enough lh being produced to stimulate the testes.

    The point of all this is that if someone's testicles are still working fine, one can use just hcg as TRT and have normal test levels.

    This will be my route if I can't recover after two pct attempts.

    Dr. Scally is a wealth of information and has treated thousands of guys suffering from AIH. (anabolic induced hypogonadism). And, you can read all of his recommendations at meso.

  13. #43
    Registered User
    BigBird's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    2,015

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    107783325

    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    I've seen Dr. Scally recommend an HCG test to determine if someone is either primary or secondary hypogonadism.

    He does 2000 iu every third day for 30 days, and has test levels checked after the 5th or 6th shot. If test levels aren't normal after that then you have primary hypogonadism. Meaning, that it's the testicles that are the problem.

    If test levels are normal after the HCG test, then it's secondary hypo and your pituitary and/or hypothalamus is the cause of low test levels. Meaning that there isn't enough lh being produced to stimulate the testes.

    The point of all this is that if someone's testicles are still working fine, one can use just hcg as TRT and have normal test levels.

    This will be my route if I can't recover after two pct attempts.

    Dr. Scally is a wealth of information and has treated thousands of guys suffering from AIH. (anabolic induced hypogonadism). And, you can read all of his recommendations at meso.
    Interesting info about Doc Scally and "AIH." I'm hoping my test levels recover and trt won't be necessary but if there's any trouble, I've brought it upon myself. I also have NEVER recommended anyone to run an extended blast like I have. I have friends who blast and then run pct the traditional method - aka 12-16 week cycles. They ask me if I think they should blast indefinitely and I'm quick to let them know I do what I do and cannot in my good clear conscience encourage someone (stranger or friend) to take the chances I take. I tell them it is completely their call - I could recover fine and the next guy might shut down permanently so you never can tell. What works for one may not work for another.

    Oh well, this is going to be interesting for lack of a better term. Good luck to all and any who choose the looooong blast sessions like myself, Exphys and others. Let's all post our results once recovery/pct starts and progresses.

  14. #44
    Body Lines
    Runner22's Avatar


    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Phoenix
    Posts
    293

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    5118960

    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    I hear ya man. I'd rather be weak and puny with a working dick, then ripped with a limp dick.

    On a positive note, a lot of what I have read is that low testosterone is rarely the cause of ED, but it's usually more of a circulation problem. I wonder if guys that experience ED during PCT is because their libido is so low that they just aren't interested.

    I look forward to your log.
    I'm in week 4 of PCT, after a 16 week cycle and I can say that I have no issues with ED, but I also have little interest in sex. I'm just now starting to have that feeling in my gut where I want to "hit it" after seeing an attractive girl. To be honest, my girlfriend is like WTF? I'm thinking i may need to extend my PCT another two weeks, but will wait to see what my bloodwork tells me to do.

    Best of Luck!

  15. #45
    Registered User
    exphys88's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    The Summit
    Posts
    5,174

    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Rep Points
    500743821

    Quote Originally Posted by Runner22 View Post
    I'm in week 4 of PCT, after a 16 week cycle and I can say that I have no issues with ED, but I also have little interest in sex. I'm just now starting to have that feeling in my gut where I want to "hit it" after seeing an attractive girl. To be honest, my girlfriend is like WTF? I'm thinking i may need to extend my PCT another two weeks, but will wait to see what my bloodwork tells me to do.

    Best of Luck!
    Thanks bro! I find it interesting the variation of symptoms that each guy experiences during pct. I'm pretty sure my test levels have dropped dramatically and I have no ED either too.

Similar Threads

  1. Blasting and Cruising
    By Standard Donkey in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-15-2012, 07:18 PM
  2. Cruising and blasting idea
    By Junkboxer in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 02-17-2012, 07:26 PM
  3. blasting and cruising question
    By whitemike370 in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 01-06-2012, 10:19 AM
  4. Blasting and cruising vs. PCT
    By Livebig14 in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-21-2011, 05:57 AM
  5. Labs after months of blasting...
    By BigBird in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 06-17-2011, 10:23 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Copyright© 2001-2019 IronMag® Bodybuilding Discussion Forums