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    Come on folks, we've got at least five different threads going about the Superbowl and nobody's yet commented on the State of the Union Address last night? What's up? What does everybody think about the tax cuts, medicare, the war against Iraq, etc?
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    Re: State of the Union?

    Originally posted by ALBOB
    Come on folks, we've got at least five different threads going about the Superbowl and nobody's yet commented on the State of the Union Address last night? What's up? What does everybody think about the tax cuts, medicare, the war against Iraq, etc?

    Since I keep my ear to the political ground, I've pretty much heard all of it before. There were some things about Iraq that I had not heard before........ie. Iraq intelligance officers were posing as scientiest to interview with the UN inspectors.

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    What caught me off guard was all the chemical and biological materials in Iraq's posession, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOCUMENTED, that they can't account for. He made a great point; "The burdon of proof isn't on US, it's on THEM."
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    Originally posted by ALBOB
    What caught me off guard was all the chemical and biological materials in Iraq's posession, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOCUMENTED, that they can't account for. He made a great point; "The burdon of proof isn't on US, it's on THEM."
    I had already heard those numbers from someone on the fox news channel........Did you notice how the tone of the speach changed when he started taling about Iraq? Bush got alot more serious.

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    Originally posted by IPMC Bush got alot more serious.
    Not as much applause from the audience either. I liked the way he basically told France and Russia to kiss his ass.
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    Originally posted by ALBOB
    Not as much applause from the audience either. I liked the way he basically told France and Russia to kiss his ass.
    Yea, I think he was also talkin to the UN when he said, we don't have to have permission from anyone.

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    Originally posted by IPMC
    Yea, I think he was also talkin to the UN when he said, we don't have to have permission from anyone.
    Yup. Definitely a ballsy statement. Hope it doesn't backfire on him.
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    Originally posted by ALBOB
    ...nobody's yet commented on the State of the Union Address last night?

    that's because it's the typical political lip service we hear every year!





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    Originally posted by ALBOB
    Yup. Definitely a ballsy statement. Hope it doesn't backfire on him.

    I don't really see how it can.......It's hard to deny the truth. We don't need anyones permission. Clinton didn't ask permission to bomb Kosovo.

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    I like to think I can trust his judgement, not only for who he is but who he has around him. I don't remember a recent President that had the caliber of people on his Cabinet that Bush has.

    I can't wait to here what Powel has to tell the UN next week.
    Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.

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    Originally posted by IPMC
    I don't really see how it can.......It's hard to deny the truth.
    You can if enough money is involved. As far as I can tell money is the only reason France and Russia are being such dickheads. They both have HUGE oil deals with Iraq, that's why they don't want us to go in and fuq the place up.
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    Originally posted by ALBOB
    You can if enough money is involved. As far as I can tell money is the only reason France and Russia are being such dickheads. They both have HUGE oil deals with Iraq, that's why they don't want us to go in and fuq the place up.

    What France & Russia don't understand that if that prick Sadam is gone, then their oil deals get better.

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    Makes sense to me. I'll add this though. They made a deal with the devil and are trying to save face right now. In the long run I think it's gonna get egg on their faces instead.
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    the war on iraq is just bush trying to get their oil.
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    Originally posted by frusht
    the war on iraq is just bush trying to get their oil.
    And you don't know what the hell your talking about.

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    Originally posted by frusht
    the war on iraq is just bush trying to get their oil.
    Tell ya what, before you make a complete idiot out of yourself, you should read this.........
    http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=14610

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    its too late for you not to look like an idiot, maybe you should read this

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...880437,00.html
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    Recently George W. Bush re-nominated Judge Charles W. Pickering Sr. of Mississippi for a post on the federal appeals court. Judge Pickering has been nominated in the past and was always blocked from election. Here are some Facts about Judge Pickering:

    -Pickering displayed "glaring racial insensitivity" according to Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), during his handling of a 1994 cross burning case. Pickering had sought a lighter sentence in a case where a Ku Klux Klan cross was burned on the lawn belonging to an interracial couple.

    -In 1959, for instance, he wrote an article for the Mississippi Law Review ("Criminal Law: Miscegenation and Incest") where he listed ways in which the state's laws against interracial marriage could be strengthened. "Within months of the article being published," wrote journalist Richard Prasad, "the Mississippi Legislature adopted the changes advocated by Pickering."

    -While a Mississippi state senator (1972-80), Pickering voted twice to fund the Sovereignty Commission, a state-funded intelligence agency that fought integration by infiltrating civil rights and labor groups.

    -In 1976, while still a member of the Mississippi senate, Pickering served as chairman of the Human Rights and Responsibilities Subcommittee of the National GOP Platform Committee that approved language in the final platform document describing ROE v. WADE as "an intrusion into the family structure." The Subcommittee also called for passage of a "right to life amendment" to overturn the crucial Supreme Court decision which guaranteed abortion rights for women.

    -Addressing the Convention's 1984 gathering, Pickering opined that the Bible should be "recognized as the absolute authority by which all conduct of man is judged." (Charles W. Pickering, "God Will Hold Us Accountable," Mississippi Baptist Record, November 29, 1984).

    -The Clarion-Ledger newspaper (November 13, 1984) reported that Pickering "called on Baptists to be about 'God's work' in helping to influence morality. 'We as Southern Baptists should lead the way in strengthening traditional moral values,' he said adding that society has been degraded by such things as pornography, homosexuality and divorce."

    -"He is a fine person," observed one lawyer, "but he's also almost so pious that it interferes with his assignment as a judge. If he doesn't like a law, he has some trouble in cases that involve the law." (Vol. 1, "Almanac of the Federal Judiciary," Fifth Circuit, at 46 - 2001)

    -Critics have said that these stern, dogmatic religious views clearly affect Pickering's performance and temperament on the bench. The group "Independent Judiciary" noted that lawyers who had argued cases before Judge Pickering noted that he made "unusually blunt statements" about everything from racial matters to the need for defendants to embrace religion.

    -Critics point out that he has made disparaging remarks about even basic constitutional doctrines such as one person-one vote, and the Voting Rights Act. Civil Libertarians worry that he has criticized the Miranda ruling, and has appealed to Biblical authority and "natural law" in his pronouncements. For Atheists and state-church separationists, Pickering's stern, Old Testament-style lecturing of defendants, his authoritarian adherence to the supremacy of the Bible as an arbiter in human affairs, and his hostility to the strict enforcement of the Establishment Clause render him a poor choice for such an important federal judicial post.

    Even if you are a Christian and believe in the Bible, this is far too extreme. The Bible should not be used to decide court cases! This guy is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe and worst of all an anti-constitutionalist! I encourage everyone to get in contact with their elected officials and encourage them to vote against Judge Pickering's appointment on the grounds of his racist and anti-American views.

    You can go to http://www.senate.gov/ and choose your state. Most of the senators have email addresses listed, so you can fire off a quick email. Heck, copy and paste and send it to senators of surrounding states, too! You can find your State Reps at http://www.house.gov/ as well. It's rare that we know someone is a slimeball before they get to a position of power... we should try to do SOMETHING to prevent it!
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    Originally posted by frusht
    the war on iraq is just bush trying to get their oil.
    I wish someday, SOMEBODY would answer my freakin' question. How many times do I have to ask? You say it's about nothing but oil and I ask, SO FUQING WHAT ??? You can't live without that oil. This country can't survive without that oil. The whole goddamn planet would go into anarchy if that oil supply were cut off!!! You're goddamn right it's about oil, SO FUQING WHAT???
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Here is a quote from one of the articles you posted........

    The scientists, specialists in bio-warfare and chemical weapons, say the Pentagon, with the help of the British military, is also working on "non-lethal" weapons similar to the narcotic gas used by Russian forces to end last week's siege in Moscow

    seems responsable to me. At least we (the USA) is not producing weapons grade anthrax, or mustard gas to use on our citizens.

    You said
    the war on iraq is just bush trying to get their oil.
    .....I ask you this, what is george bush going to do with this oil once he gets it.........stock pile it on his ranch in Texas?

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    Originally posted by frusht
    Recently George W. Bush re-nominated Judge Charles W. Pickering Sr. of Mississippi for a post on the federal appeals court.
    What does any of this have to do with last night's State of the Union Address?
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Originally posted by frusht
    the war on iraq is just bush trying to get their oil.
    LMFAO!

    yeah, that's what it's about.





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    Originally posted by ALBOB
    What does any of this have to do with last night's State of the Union Address?
    I can answer that for you.........

    NOT A DAMN THING

    And Albob, I'll tell ya what, the reason that you don't get a response on your "so what about oil" post is cause your right.

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    he want to control the oil it would give him more power. Why would he go to war with iraq because there is no weapons?
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    Originally posted by Prince
    LMFAO!

    yeah, that's what it's about.
    You gotta be loving all this crap.........

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    Originally posted by frusht
    he want to control the oil it would give him more power. Why would he go to war with iraq because there is no weapons?

    If G. W. Bush has the oil, who does he have power over.....you don't get it do you. Bush only cares about the people of the world and their needs. Iraq has more oil than G.W. Bush needs........(that's humor. Get it)

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    bush doesn't care about the people. If he did, why would he only give tax breaks to the rich? He should worry about the problems in america first fix those, then worry about the rest of the world.
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    Originally posted by frusht
    he want to control the oil it would give him more power. Why would he go to war with iraq because there is no weapons?
    I enjoyed the thread about abortion because, for the most part, it was an intelligent conversation between intelligent people. This is a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Frusht, you need to do some research before making statements like this. You're doing nothing but regurgitating rhetoric you heard last night on your local news. Stop being lead like a puppy and start getting some facts, you'll sound a whole lot more intelligent.
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    Originally posted by frusht
    he want to control the oil it would give him more power. Why would he go to war with iraq because there is no weapons?
    oh, just for the hell of it.

    I refuse to sit and argue with you because based on what you have posted thus far I can see it would be a waste of my time.


    Closing note:
    We will be going to war with Iraq and we will kick Saddam's ass, we can only hope that we actually kill the dickhead this time!





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