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    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and
    force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of
    either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under
    threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two
    categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact
    through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social
    interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the
    personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use
    reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your
    threat or employment of force.

    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on
    equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal
    footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal
    footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun
    removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a
    potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad
    force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more
    civilized if all guns were removed from society. But, a firearm makes
    it easier for an armed mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only
    true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by
    choice or by legislative fiat - it has no validity when most of a
    mugger's potential marks are armed.

    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the
    young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a
    civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a
    successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force
    monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that
    otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in
    several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the
    physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute
    lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come
    out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes
    lethal force easier, works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not
    the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

    The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an
    octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply would
    not work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and
    easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but
    because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I
    cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid,
    but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions
    of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of
    those who would do so by force. It removes force from the
    equation...And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act !!
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    Law abiding adults should ALWAYS be allowed to own a gun. With the proper training, be allowed to carry it concealed.

    If you look at states where law abiding adults can obtain a CCW you see that there is less crime than places where you cannot even own a gun.

    If you as a law abiding citizen cannot have a gun then the criminals know that they have the only guns and run roughshod over everyone.

    Also the best thing to do with scum bag armed robbers, rapists, murders, and such.....



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    To bad i live in NY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    To bad i live in NY.
    You still have gun rights.....excercise them. I do.......
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