Couple notes on cycling these days.
I still come off sometimes and last time it was after over 2 years and recovered into the 600s in 12 weeks. I'm in my 50s. The last couple years I changed things around a little. I cycle for 8 weeks followed by 3 weeks off. Not really looking to gain huge weight anymore. Really looking to gain quality and stay/get looking more and more like a good BBer from the mid 80s.
I like doing this 8 on 3 off cycling. I was off for 5 months and within 8 weeks I put on 25 lbs. Then leaned out and looked better than I have in 15 years. Taking the 3 weeks off certainly doesn't allow recovery in HPTA terms but is is long enough to take the stress off. hCG during those 3 weeks off with a little nolva to guard against estrogen inbalance and back on after three weeks. relieves stress and never really loose much size or quaility if the diet stays tight. That's the main thing.. diet.
Why do I still recover? It might be that I always took time off. Another thing is I use hCG on cycle. Also I don't megadose. If you go off periodically you don't need to. You keep the body primed for androgens. All health markers stay in range. BP good, blood markers good. pulse is 60 or below. Wish I had found this years ago.
I still come off sometimes and last time it was after over 2 years and recovered into the 600s in 12 weeks. I'm in my 50s. The last couple years I changed things around a little. I cycle for 8 weeks followed by 3 weeks off. Not really looking to gain huge weight anymore. Really looking to gain quality and stay/get looking more and more like a good BBer from the mid 80s.
I like doing this 8 on 3 off cycling. I was off for 5 months and within 8 weeks I put on 25 lbs. Then leaned out and looked better than I have in 15 years. Taking the 3 weeks off certainly doesn't allow recovery in HPTA terms but is is long enough to take the stress off. hCG during those 3 weeks off with a little nolva to guard against estrogen inbalance and back on after three weeks. relieves stress and never really loose much size or quaility if the diet stays tight. That's the main thing.. diet.
Why do I still recover? It might be that I always took time off. Another thing is I use hCG on cycle. Also I don't megadose. If you go off periodically you don't need to. You keep the body primed for androgens. All health markers stay in range. BP good, blood markers good. pulse is 60 or below. Wish I had found this years ago.